[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by Iron Warrior

but he didn't have to go through the personal insults and being booed on draft day. Getting booed on your draft day has got be terrible, it's like your customers spitting on your face and you haven't done anything wrong LOL.

It happens everyday on talk radio. They insult him everyday from quesitoning his manhood to calling him a choker and coward. There is a reason the talk radio here gets national attention and its because they are so brutal and downright mean. Many of my friends live in New York and even they said its worse. WFAN is timid when it comes to WIP.

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by Iron Warrior

That's why they have a courthouse in the stadium
Nothing funny about that situation though.
We need a poll to see who is crazier, Raider fans or Eagle fans LOL. I've actually seen a pretty crazy Eagles fan AT CANDLESTICK in a game between the 49ers and Buccaneers throw a urine bag at a 18-20 year old guy wearing an Aikman jersey

Mitch Williams had death threats and couldn't stay in his own house after he gave up the homerun to Joe Carter in 93'. People criticizing what candy you give out on Halloween? Give me a break. Thats an EASY day in Philly.

[Sir Foxx]

Originally Posted by Bobo

No, actually you don't have any idea what you are talking about. My brother lived in Bighton for 4 years (or somewhere around there...was 10 years ago) so I know EXACTLY how the media is out there and its NOT EVEN CLOSE. Comparing the Denver media and pressure to Philly and New York is laughable.

Obvisouly you haven't been to Philly much because the pressure their fans put on their team outweighs anything you will EVER have in Denver.

But then again I forgot the world revolves around Denver to you.

It's not just the Denver media, it's the entire state of Colorado that revolves around what the Bronco's are doing. In Philly you don't just have the Eagles but the Phillies and 76er's that share(and somewhat the Flyers) the spotlight. Despite the fact that the Avalanche have won the Stanley Cup and the presence of the Rockies and Nuggets, it all revolves around the Broncos in Colorado. When the Eagles can sell out 10 straight years, then come talk to me about the fervor of the fans versus Denver(who are going on 40+ straight years of sellouts, even back in the 60's and early 70's when the Bronco's sucked, which is the all time franchise record of any pro team in any pro sport.) I used the halloween candy thing as an example of the minuteau(sp?) that is observed concerning the Broncos(and Elway). Now just imagine how bad it gets when they(the press and fans) get serious.

[EEmain]

Originally Posted by Bobo

Yes, but I see no problem with this at all. Its good parenting.

Damn straight! My kids got tee shirts that say it.

[brogers]

The whole situation is a joke.

It is OBVIOUS from the quotes that McNabb turned it into a racial issue. The only way you can argue against that is if you can read Terrel Owens' mind.

[anabolicrhino]

Originally Posted by LCSULLA

Philly fans are nuts. When the 'skins went up there about five years ago the Redskin ( a old guy who dresses up in Redskins outfit and goes to all the home games) was beaten so bad he was put in the hospital. The guy is like 70+ yrs old.

Yeah, but that was the VET. Lincoln field is a whole 'nother deal. I could go to see the Eagles at the vet, pay 18 bucks to sit in the 700 level, if the game sucked you could always see a couple of good fights in the stands. Especially, if somebody had the balls to wear a Giants or Cowboys jersey. Lincoln is a $200 day, just to park and watch the game!

I think that Elway was similar to Mcnabb in alot of ways. Their playing styles are virtually identical. Elways has the hall of fame gun, but Dmac has better wheels. They were both stifiled by offensive styles that are too pass oriented. When Shanahan brought the run to Denver, they became Champions. I hope someone tells Andy Reid the secret...Offensive lines with big running games , win big games! (Hello Pittsburg)

Criticism-wise, Elway got more from the national media, while Mcnabb gets it more from home...but haters hate, that's just what they do...

I hope Mcnabb's ego can allow for some help from the running game. It was obvious that it could not handle the help at wide receiver!

The truth is Mcnabb is black. I cannot imagine that he has not heard some kind of race or color related criticism before he entered the NFL. That's life in the USA.
I thought Ricky Williams was the better pick at the time. Boy was I wrong! Mcnabb has already had a better career than I ever thought was possible!..BUT I STILL WANT A SUPERBOWL WINNER...and when you **** that up, I will let you know about it!
I don't know if Mcnabb can finish like Elway. Time will tell!...One thing that I know is certain...Dallas will always suck!!!!!

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by Sir Foxx

It's not just the Denver media, it's the entire state of Colorado that revolves around what the Bronco's are doing. In Philly you don't just have the Eagles but the Phillies and 76er's that share(and somewhat the Flyers) the spotlight. Despite the fact that the Avalanche have won the Stanley Cup and the presence of the Rockies and Nuggets, it all revolves around the Broncos in Colorado. When the Eagles can sell out 10 straight years, then come talk to me about the fervor of the fans versus Denver(who are going on 40+ straight years of sellouts, even back in the 60's and early 70's when the Bronco's sucked, which is the all time franchise record of any pro team in any pro sport.) I used the halloween candy thing as an example of the minuteau(sp?) that is observed concerning the Broncos(and Elway). Now just imagine how bad it gets when they(the press and fans) get serious.

Sorry, its obvious you haven't been there because the Eagles BY FAR have more attention than all the other 3 teams combined. It doens't matter if your whole state covers them, you don't even come close the population of Philly and the tri state area. Philly has 3 times the population in just the city itself. You are the 25th biggest city in the US. Philly is 5th. Both newspapers here have a higher circulation then your one! You aren't even in the same ballpark. Oh yeah, Comcast is based there as well.

Sellouts mean nothing. By your standard Denver has more a media and fan base than New York which is laughable. You simply have less going on.

You seem to forget that I have seen it when it was serious. Its not even close. I have seen both and the local media here is MUCH larger as well as teh fanbase because they are tied into New York since the same companies who own WFAN and the New York post own their Philly counterparts. A hell of lot more happens over here than in Denver and they are STILL front page when its football season.

Ferver of your fans? Give me a break. Fans here phyically attack other teams. Go ask Jimmy Johnson....or Tie Domi....or the host of fans of other teams that dare to showup with other teams jerseys.

Or mayeb you could actually read the other posts in this threads saying the same thing.

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by Sir Foxx

Now just imagine how bad it gets when they(the press and fans) get serious.

I have seen it. Its 10x more laid back there than Philly. Comparing them is ridiculous. I like Kornheiser's description.

"Philly is like Brooklyn but larger and much worse"

[LCSULLA]

And it's not just Philly McNabb gets punked in. He live in the corridor btween DC and NY. The media in both towns cover the Eagles. Why? Because they are in the same division as the "Skins and Giants.
When McNabb came out with that interview with Mike Smith every station in DC and Baltimore had local commentry on it. I mean three to four times a day.

[Iron Warrior]

I don't get it, why would the fans be so hard on him ? Do they really want McMahon to be the QB next year ? Philly fans just don't know how good they have it with McNabb. I'd take him on the 49ers in a heartbeat. He was hurt for the most part all of last season, I think after taking the team to the NFC championship game 4 years in a row, and 1 Super Bowl deserves a little more slack than what he's getting.

[EEmain]

It is the sports talk radio zealots not all of Philly. A few retards and your rep is crap!

Take the McNabb booing... Angelo Cataldi is a radio host and a knucklehead. The TO-Hugh stuff started on... the Cataldi show. Anyhow he has a bunch of hooligans he calls his dirty thirty. They were the ones Angelo bused and beered to the Draft with instruction to boo anyone but Ricky Williams.

I remember years ago watching the draft and the Giants drafted a wideout from Mich or M. St. and the fans booed them. Does anyone care? Why? Because we have a rep already... imagine MNF and TO comes to town

The Clown is right... there must be 8 papers that cover the Birds in this area. All Eagles all the time!

[slamuels]

"It is the sports talk radio zealots not all of Philly. A few retards and your rep is crap!

Take the McNabb booing... Angelo Cataldi is a radio host and a knucklehead. The TO-Hugh stuff started on... the Cataldi show. Anyhow he has a bunch of hooligans he calls his dirty thirty. They were the ones Angelo bused and beered to the Draft with instruction to boo anyone but Ricky Williams." - EEmain


Please dont bash Angelo Cataldi. Without him there would be no Wing bowl. What other city do you know of that is crazy enough to make that **** work.


The king is still the best though. I love when he berates all his callers on WIP. Too funny.

[EEmain]

Originally Posted by slamuels

"It is the sports talk radio zealots not all of Philly. A few retards and your rep is crap!

Take the McNabb booing... Angelo Cataldi is a radio host and a knucklehead. The TO-Hugh stuff started on... the Cataldi show. Anyhow he has a bunch of hooligans he calls his dirty thirty. They were the ones Angelo bused and beered to the Draft with instruction to boo anyone but Ricky Williams." - EEmain


Please dont bash Angelo Cataldi. Without him there would be no Wing bowl. What other city do you know of that is crazy enough to make that **** work.


The king is still the best though. I love when he berates all his callers on WIP. Too funny.

Angelo? It`s the Rib Ranch they supply the wings.