I said months ago that if he became a full time starter that he'd rip **** up.......if he would have been a starter from day one he would smash every record set by any back...rushing yards and TD's.
I was waiting for this. He is good, I'll give you that. BUT...you could drive an 18 wheeler through the holes his O-Line provides for him. You have 3 of the best O-Lineman in the league in Roaf, Shields and Wiegmann; all pro bowlers. Barry Sanders could come out of retirement and easily run for 1000 yards.I said months ago that if he became a full time starter that he'd rip **** up.......if he would have been a starter from day one he would smash every record set by any back...rushing yards and TD's.
you are correct, not that you needed me to tell you this! lolI said months ago that if he became a full time starter that he'd rip **** up.......if he would have been a starter from day one he would smash every record set by any back...rushing yards and TD's.
umm not alwaysGood lines and good backs go together... now take Tiki Barber and put him behind KCs line or let him run behind Jones and Hutchinson.
umm not always
sanders and detroit
put sanders behind emmits line in dallas and sanders rushes for 20 g's
I said months ago that if he became a full time starter that he'd rip **** up.......if he would have been a starter from day one he would smash every record set by any back...rushing yards and TD's.
TIKI? No way. For pure skill LJ and Alexander are way better then him.So was Emmitt Smith; but he had the Dallas O-line to help.
Put him on a team not geared as a rushing offense and see what happens.
For me, the best back inthe NFL is a 2 way tie between Shaun Alexander and Tiki Barber.... The Edge coming in 3rd and Johnson 4th
Look at his numbers http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1782. Then tell me how many Olineman from the Giants are Probowlers. Also remember for whatever reason the coach takes him out inside the 10?!??TIKI? No way. For pure skill LJ and Alexander are way better then him.
LOL, Roaf may be old but KC's offense wasn't very good at all until Willie came all the way back from a bad hammy. First Ballot HOF, if not it will only be from playing in NO and KC and not huge media markets. LJ is a damn good back but I have to agree he's not the best as his pass blocking sucks. He might be the best runner though. My defintion of a great back is one who stays healthy and ages well, in which Tiki Barber has done great in both departments, but also not fumbling is important and Tiki has had those problems in the past. Playing hurt and staying healthy at that position is paramount to being the best, all the players mentioned have great skills and good lines make them look even better. That's what made Walter Payton so good, some of those Bears teams sucked ass on the line and he never got hurt. Incredible.Wow Roaf is still playing? I had no idea. Isn't he like 50 now?
I've had LJ on my fanasy team for 3 years, and boy did it pay off this year
Sweetness... now there is a runningback:woohoo:That's what made Walter Payton so good, some of those Bears teams sucked ass on the line and he never got hurt. Incredible.
Um...Look at his numbers http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1782. Then tell me how many Olineman from the Giants are Probowlers. Also remember for whatever reason the coach takes him out inside the 10?!??
This is coming from an Eagles fan
Yea it was the 95(umm... 85) Bears that LJ went up against Sunday?Um...
LJ vs Tiki
- Did you see any of the highlights when Tiki went over 200 yards? My Dad could have gone for 100 vs the tackling he faced. - Advantage
Yea half a season and more carries...:jaw:Um...
LJ vs Tiki
- LJ wasn't even the starting RB for almost half the season! - Advantage Tiki
- LJ has the best oline - Advantage LJ
PS. While we are at it lets look at the stats. LJ has over twice the TDs, and only 100 less yards. Did I mention that he was the backup for half the season?
Maybe? We would have to see what Tiki could do with 15 more touches per game...Um...
LJ vs Tiki
- Giants have a passing attack - Advantage Tiki
Don`t compare LJ to 2 hall of fame runningbacks after one good year...LJ vs Tiki
- LJ has the best oline - Advantage LJ
This is like an Emmitt vs Barry debate. Barry was clearly the better runner, but he didn't have everything else like Emmitt did.
No way LJ holds up for a whole season getting 30 carries a game, not an idictment against him but no back can handle 480 carries, especially with his running style. "If" Priest Holmes would be willing to caddie for LJ (and I think he would at his age and if they are willing to pay him) and get 5-8 carries a game it would help tremendously. Right now LJ's backup is Dee Brown, and he hasn't been the same since that dunk contest way back when..I'd like to see if LJ can hold up during an ENTIRE season with as many carries he had this season even though he was limited earlier in the season. Durability makes a good running back as well.
Maybe you should watch some other teams besides KC? (who isnt making the playoffs this year I might add )alexander has Walter Jones on his O-Line whos condsidered the best at his position maybe ever......U guys just have to watch LJ play to understand....
Um...
LJ vs Tiki
- Giants have a passing attack - Advantage Tiki
- LJ wasn't even the starting RB for almost half the season! - Advantage Tiki
- Did you see any of the highlights when Tiki went over 200 yards? My Dad could have gone for 100 vs the tackling he faced. - Advantage Tiki
- LJ has the best oline - Advantage LJ
This is like an Emmitt vs Barry debate. Barry was clearly the better runner, but he didn't have everything else like Emmitt did.
PS. While we are at it lets look at the stats. LJ has over twice the TDs, and only 100 less yards. Did I mention that he was the backup for half the season?
The baddest man I`ve ever seen... Earl Campbell http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/CampEa00.htm:twisted:No way LJ holds up for a whole season getting 30 carries a game, not an idictment against him but no back can handle 480 carries, especially with his running style. "If" Priest Holmes would be willing to caddie for LJ (and I think he would at his age and if they are willing to pay him) and get 5-8 carries a game it would help tremendously. Right now LJ's backup is Dee Brown, and he hasn't been the same since that dunk contest way back when..
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