OK Boys and Girls! The 2005-06 NFL season playoffs

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Sir Foxx
    Denver isn't just a tough place to play, they have the best home record of any team over the last 35 years.

    The only hope the Pats have is to shut down our running game, and that isn't going to happen. The Pats will be lucky to be within 3 touchdowns by the end of this game. The Pats have no running game so that means they are going to have to pass and guess what, that means going up against All-Pro Champ Bailey. They lose that matchup. Plus we've got Darrent Williams coming back, so our defensive backfield is going to shut down anything the Pats try to do. On defense, the Pats have nothing to stop either Tatum Bell or Mike Anderson and god help them try to contain Rod Smith. This is a blowout in the making.
    That's a bold prediction, Sir Foxx. I respect your opinion, but I think the game will be a lot closer than you are predicting.

    My prediction: with two evenly matched teams and two great coaches, the game will come down to turnovers.

    Oh, and Champ Bailey is really really good (to those who seem to think otherwise).

    - WheyGood


  2. True enough! But I thought that was you a number of posts ago, who was predicting a 3 touchdown victory by the Broncoís? I by the way, have done no such thing. Iím pulling for the Patriots, I can think they can win, although from this weekend on, theyíre going to have to play their best football each game or they will be done.

    That was me predicting a 3 touchdown win by the Broncos, but for you let's make it four
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by sandinsciuz
    And I would argue that Tom Brady does that as well as anyone this year, in fact his total production of yards passing, in spite of inconsistent personnel this year, has exceeded Peyton Mannings. And in spite of their overall POOR production against the Broncos in the first game this year, Brady & the Patriots damn near mounted a comeback in the 2nd half! 3 incomplete passes in a row to end a drive that could have tied that game.
    His yardage exceeded Manning's because he has no running game to fall back on. Manning still has more TDs, fewer interceptions, a higher QB rating, and his RB and FB have FAR more rushing yards than the Pats. If this was one of Brady's greatest offensive years, then thats pretty sad. He's a great QB; but I don't think he's much better than Big Ben. Definitely below Manning and Palmer.

    Plus Manning has been taken out of the 4th quarter quite a few times this season because they were SO FAR AHEAD. Not to mention playing only 2 series in the Seahawks game and 1 in the Cardinals game. His lead would be even furthur extended if he was required to fight for the playoff entry.

    And by your comeback argument; the same could be said against the Chargers. If the Colts had just stopped that long passing play that put the Chargers close to the endzone... or if they had just not thrown that interception in their last drive (which was run back for a TD).... they might have really played hard against the Seahawks instead of pulling 9 starters at the beginning of the game.

    Anyway...

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Sir Foxx
    That was me predicting a 3 touchdown win by the Broncos, but for you let's make it four
    It can happen! Remember the Colts beat them 40-21 and just ran the clock out in the 4th quarter

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Bean
    ........... He's a great QB; but I don't think he's much better than Big Ben........ Definitely below Manning and Palmer..
    What?! Not much better than Big Ben?!?! If that's what you really think, you don't know anything about football. You seem to be confusing fantasy football with the NFL.

    What every coach wants from their QB is a leader who, more than anything else, will lead their team to victory, period.

    And as of today, among current QB's, Brady stands without equal. All QB's and coaches in the week leading up to any contest against the Patriots, in their weekly press conferences have said that exact thing. Brady's record in both playoff victories and super bowl wins stands without equal among current QB's, and he's the envy of the league. I suppose you just think they're being polite?

    Not much better than Big Ben?! Nothing against Big Ben, he's a fine QB and has potential to blossom into something special. But he's accomplished nothing yet to be considered in the same light as Brady and I'm sure he'd say the same thing. Most analysts after last year's conference game, pointed to his staring down his receivers as being the reason the Pats were able to intercept him. When is the last time Brady did that? Carson Palmer? yup, ..... another talented guy with the potential, but hasn't done it yet either.

    Peyton Manning has in recent years generated enviable personal stats and an NFL record, but until he wins a super bowl, he will not ascend beyond the plateau of being "just" another great QB who couldn't win the big one. And he has stated publicly, he'll trade the personal accolades for a super bowl ring.

    Personally I AGREE he's a GREAT QB, but counter to your assertion, that's how current/former players, analysts and coaches all rate QB's against other's in history.

    And who knows, maybe this is Manning's year to win it all. Could happen. But not as of today, Bean.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Sir Foxx
    That was me predicting a 3 touchdown win by the Broncos, but for you let's make it four
    So much for rational discussion.

    BTW, your band hasn't produced a decent album since Roth left.



    Hee hee.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Bean
    It can happen! Remember the Colts beat them 40-21 and just ran the clock out in the 4th quarter
    ..... and the Broncos lost 34-10 to the Dolphins. So by your standards, the Broncos suck worse, huh?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by sandinsciuz
    So much for rational discussion.

    BTW, your band hasn't produced a decent album since Roth left.



    Hee hee.
    Alright, bringing VH into this is like talking about my mother

    I just want you to be rational when you realize I'm right around 10:30 pm Saturday night.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Sir Foxx
    Alright, bringing VH into this is like talking about my mother

    I just want you to be rational when you realize I'm right around 10:30 pm Saturday night.
    I love the NFL and life goes on. But we're living in the age of the Patriots, and if you're not on board, I'm afraid you're about to be deeply disappointed.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by sandinsciuz
    ..... and the Broncos lost 34-10 to the Dolphins. So by your standards, the Broncos suck worse, huh?
    Dude, chill out ROFL. You've got some serious debate issues, you need to learn to TAKE the heat as well as dish it out. I think you need to sit out of the discussion for a little while and cool off.

    You completely took my post out of context.

    Good ole Patriot fans

  11. Quote Originally Posted by sandinsciuz
    I love the NFL and life goes on. But we're living in the age of the Patriots, and if you're not on board, I'm afraid you're about to be deeply disappointed.
    ROFL ROFL

    I cant believe you just said that! HAHAHAHA

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Bean
    Dude, chill out ROFL. You've got some serious debate issues, you need to learn to TAKE the heat as well as dish it out. I think you need to sit out of the discussion for a little while and cool off.

    You completely took my post out of context.

    Good ole Patriot fans

    I guess you didn't get that I was just throwing a good natured barb back at you, and should have put some smilie faces or something on it. Sorry. I just think all the stoopid smilies are grossly overused.

    BTW, I'm hurt by the "ole" insinuation. Deeply hurt.

    And I wasn't feeling any heat actually, are you sure you sent any? Is that all you got?

    Better?


  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bean
    ROFL ROFL

    I cant believe you just said that! HAHAHAHA
    As I typed it, I heard the 60's tune "Age of Aquarius" only re-written for 2003

    This is the dawning
    of the age of the Patriots,
    Age of the Patrio-ots
    The Patriots
    The Patriots

    I know, it was meant to be stoopid and generate a laugh,

    Really.

    No really.


  14. Are you ready for some FOOTBALL!

    This is the best slate of divisional round games I can ever remember. All four games are great matchups.



    Bring 'em on!

  15. The thing that does suck, though, is having to wait until 4:30 for the first game.

    I hated waiting till 4:30 last Saturday, but it's even worse today!

    Well, I'll go have lunch and try not to think about it...

  16. well patriots didn't make it. ouch.

  17. The run is done. Oiy Vey.

    First of all, congratulations to the Denver Broncos and fans. The Patriots had too many bonehead mistakes, some of which the Broncos caused surely.

    I do think the Broncos enjoyed some good luck on the 1st half pass interference call against Asante Samuel. But credit them with taking advantange of some truly bonehead mistakes by the Patriots. 5 turnovers in the playoffs is sure defeat.

    I think you have to say the Patriots defense showed up and played though. They got it done. Strangely, the guys we normally count on, Vinatieri, Brady, Brown, and even Faulk, were more the guys who let us down.

    Nonetheless, I think the Patriots are the first team to repeat SB's and even make it back to the playoffs. They've accomplished quite a feat.

    Too bad it's over.

    But congrats again to the Broncos. I tip my hat.

  18. Nice to see you post after the loss. Glad you didnt just disappear. Definitely a true football enthusiast

    I didnt get to watch the game much; was waiting tables; only got to go to the bar a couple times and see the score. Saw some stats talking about lots of turnovers or something. About to go read the highlights on espn.com

    Glad to see the Broncos make it; I'd rather the Colts play them instead, personally

  19. In a quick addition:

    WHAT THE ****?!?
    Harper's wife stabbed him with a ****ing knife?!?!?
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?****2292562

  20. I will have to take to Steelers over the colts

  21. Quote Originally Posted by sandinsciuz
    The run is done. Oiy Vey.

    First of all, congratulations to the Denver Broncos and fans. The Patriots had too many bonehead mistakes, some of which the Broncos caused surely.

    I do think the Broncos enjoyed some good luck on the 1st half pass interference call against Asante Samuel. But credit them with taking advantange of some truly bonehead mistakes by the Patriots. 5 turnovers in the playoffs is sure defeat.

    I think you have to say the Patriots defense showed up and played though. They got it done. Strangely, the guys we normally count on, Vinatieri, Brady, Brown, and even Faulk, were more the guys who let us down.

    Nonetheless, I think the Patriots are the first team to repeat SB's and even make it back to the playoffs. They've accomplished quite a feat.

    Too bad it's over.

    But congrats again to the Broncos. I tip my hat.

    The game was much closer than I thought it would be. The Patriots played like the champions they are, especially in the first half.

    That being said, Super Bowl, here we come. Between Al Wilson, Champ Bailey(hell of a rep this guy is living/playing on), John Lynch and Rod Smith, there is no way that the Broncos are not going to win the SuperBowl.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by ericnb_98
    I will have to take to Steelers over the colts

    Lets hope your right, then the playoffs stay in Denver

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Bean
    In a quick addition:

    WHAT THE ****?!?
    Harper's wife stabbed him with a ****ing knife?!?!?
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?****2292562
    If he was hitting on her, I wouldn't blame her for stabbing his ass.

  24. Nah, I'm not the post & run type! And it's true what I said earlier, I'm a fan of the NFL before I'm a fan of any one team. I like watching as many games as time permits.

    I don't wish to diminish the Broncos victory, because in the end, what matters is the final score on the board as time expires. They won the game, they advance to the AFC Championship game, and the Patriots go home. It's end of story for the Patriots this season, and again congratulations to the Broncos. Not only do they advance, they get the credit for having terminated the Patriots chances to make history by 3-peating.

    But if I was a Broncos fan I would put this one behind me about as quickly as I could. The admittedly great combo of Anderson & Bell combined for a grand total of 88 yards on the ground. About 15-20 of those were fairly meaningless at the end of the game just after Brady's late hail Mary was intercepted. The Patriots defense really accomplished the unthinkable....... they shut down the Bronco running game. I think you Broncos fans need to hope that despite the Patriots having blown that game, that the Patriots defense nonetheless has become one of the very best in the league, and that this domination cannot be repeated by another team from here on out. They've certainly provided the game plan for anyone else to follow, provided it can be duplicated.

    The Broncos got VERY lucky in that pass interference call against Asante Samuel in the end zone. The commentators in the booth, Simms especially, were highly critical of the call. The line judge who was in the position to make the call waived it off. The field judge threw the flag from under the goal post several seconds after the play went by. That was a HORRIBLE call that frankly should have gone AGAINST the Broncos if it was going to be called at all. Nonetheless, those are the breaks, and at that point the game was still up for grabs in spite of it. Hopefully that puts an end to the criticism for the Patriots always being "lucky" and being the benefactors of how the ball always seems to bounce their way, the "tuck rule", etc.

    The other turnovers (excluding Champ Bailey's brilliant pic): Kevin Faulk's fumble caused by an attempted 1 arm tackle, Ellis Hobbs punt return fumble caused by Sauerbrun, and Troy Brown's botched punt return fumble, were gifts out of the very depths of poor ball handling. Dear God, those plays looked like gag reel "the best of rookie botches" from preseason games. In the end, all the Broncos points were ALL from turnovers, and they only had to travel about 20 yards IN TOTAL to get ALL of them.

    Now I'm not out to sound like "sour grapes" here. And despite my ramblings, I give the Broncos ALL the credit for taking advantage on EVERY SINGLE ONE of them. That's a mark of a top team. And I give Champ Bailey a salute for the interception runback, that was a brilliant play, he took advantage of a weak toss by Brady, and he nailed it. It was THE turning point in the game. (Though you have to admire the tenacity of Ben Watson running most the field and angling, in spite of the referree being in his way, to clobber him at the 1-2 yard line. Too bad we'll never know if the ball went through the end zone or not. Bailey MUST have thought, "What the F_CK was THAT ?!?!").

    Jake Plummer went 15 of 26 for 197 yards. Combine that rather so-so performance with the so-so results in their running game, and the fact that Brady was 20 of 36 for 341 yards.............

    This game is more about the Patriots self destructing. And I think that for you Broncos fans, enjoy the win. But based on performance, I wouldn't be chanting "Super Bowl". In fact, if they should make it to the Super Bowl, I think they'll look back and say they went "in spite" of this game.

    I think they're going to have to play a lot better to beat the Colts. And if by some OTHER freak of nature the Colts self destruct and the Steelers win today, they're still going to have to play a lot better than they did last night to beat them. I just can't imagine any other team handing out 5 playoff game turnovers. And I say "hand out" because it's not like they were caused by devastating hits. More like poor ball control and decision making.

    But who knows, maybe they'll prove me wrong. At this point I've demonstrated that doesn't take a lot to do

  25. I agree. Denver will have to step it up several notches to beat either the Colts or Steelers next weekend. The Pats "gave it up on a silver platter" as Brady put it.
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