ESPN: USC's Place in History

judge-mental · 01-06-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mtruther

Oh, glad to see ole Hollywood star wonderboy Leinhart showing the class he is so known for by declaring that the better team lost.

Oh, he's a great college quarterback, but until he starts producing at the next level, it might be wise to keep his mouth shut. Especially if he winds up on the Saints.

that was evil but funny

phil216 · 04-13-2006, 07:06 PM

The only way the 95 huskers would have been down by 2 scores early would have been if they played on Sunday. That was the best team ever by far, they laid 62 on the number 2 gators and it could have been a lot more

**jmh80** · 04-13-2006, 07:32 PM

Look - they had a great team.

But, that FLA team SUCKED on defense.

I mean SUCKED.

Neb. was great on running the football. But, where was the balance on offense???

I'm a Cane homer but I have to say that Nebraska's only beaten us in 1995 when we have one of our worst offenses EVER.

Every other Neb-UM Bowl Game has been a UM win.
2001 Canes by a TD.

**jmh80** · 04-14-2006, 10:08 PM

Was that directed at me??

**jmh80** · 04-14-2006, 11:40 PM

Nope.

Clarett's supposed strip of Sean Taylor was pure and utter bullsh*t.
Then, there was the call.

I ain't giving up sh*t when it came to that piece of crap officiated game.

**Iron Warrior** · 04-16-2006, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil216

The only way the 95 huskers would have been down by 2 scores early would have been if they played on Sunday. That was the best team ever by far, they laid 62 on the number 2 gators and it could have been a lot more

Why is that impossible, with Andre Johnson, Jeremy Shockey, and Clinton Portis is could happen. I doubt Grant Wistrom would even be much of a factor against McKinney and he was the one guy that truly was great on NU's defense, I personally think the Chris Weinke Florida State Seminoles would have been a much better matchup vs. the Hurricanes

**jmh80** · 01-07-2007, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

There's an average of 145-155 plays per college football game. If a team feels they were cheated out of victory by a single play, they should'nt have let it come down to just one, they had plenty of opportunities to nullify the effect of a single wrong call.

Alright RD. It's my birthday - I'll post crap and rehash some old sh*t f I wanna . And you have to put up with it.

I watched the game again tonight entirely (it was on ESPN classic) for the first time since that fateful night - Jan. 3rd 2003.
I said I'd watch after Coker was fired - and I did.

The statement of "one play doesn't decide" a game doesn't hold water for OSU* in the Fiesta Bowl. The game was over in the 1st OT when Jenkins DROPPED Krentzl's pass.

Until Terry Porter's oh so fateful flag fell to earth (after most of the UM team was on the field and fireworks were going off).

So - yes, one play DID decide the Fiesta for OSU*. Without that bogus-azz penalty, the game is over.

I will give them credit for taking advantage of the flag.
I will never recognize that they won though.

As a side note - watching "the call" for the first time since that fateful night, it's just sickening how f*cking bad of a pass interference call that was.
Just sickening.
I had forgotten what exactly the play looked like.
Rather curious that he "retired" from officiating after this game..............

It's amazing how much of a home game this was for the Bucks. Quite a few Buckeye hotties (didn't know you guys had those up there

) - that I can appreciate now.

Man, I had forgotten how much losing McGahee hurt the offense. He was just starting to get his rythem when he got hurt about 1 min into the 4th Q (way to be classy Will Allen - double throat slash).
He had like 20 yds in the first half - but 49 and one TD in basically the 3rd Q. With Coker (stupidly IMO - yeah, hindsight is 20/20...) not wanting to burn Frank Gore's redshirt (he had torn an ACL in April 2004 and was practicing on the side IIRC, should have been 80% or so at that point) that he ended up not using, we had little running game with an untested Jarrett Payton (had 40 carries coming into that game) and were forced to go to the pass.

Which brings me to another note - Damn, Winslow was a freaking BEAST in that game. 11 catches for like 130 yards and a TD.
I didn't remember most of those catches. Impressive stuff.

Coker's first ominous appearance that he was a bad head coach: the end of the 4th quarter. Roscoe Parrish returned an OSU* punt to their 30 yard line with UM down 17-14.
What does Coker summarily do with about 2:30 left?

Run the clock down and go for a field goal to tie (Todd Seivers then made an clutch 30 yarder after being iced 3 times by Sweatervest).

In years past - Miami would have gone for the jugular. Coker doesn't even know the meaning of the word.
Jesus.
F*cking throw the ball to Kellen. He couldn't be stopped. It's not that hard, Larry. (Or - maybe it is....)

Another example of Coker being Coker (or maybe this was Shannon - who knows) came in the first OT. OSU* has the ball with a 4th and 14.
What do we do?
Lay back in a puzzy-azz zone and get to Krenzel right after he throws the ball for a first down to Jenkins (rushing only 4).

BLITZ!!!! You had DJ Williams AND Jon Vilma - two freaking future All-Pro's - at LB. God damn - grow some balls Coker.
Move the SS up to the line and blitz a CB - we had Antrell Rolle (a soph) sitting on the damn bench. Leave Sean Taylor back at the first down and play press coverate with the CB's. Leave Vilma in the middle to cover whichever RB comes out (presuming the other sees the CB/LB blitzing and stays to block). Then you are left with a man running free at Krenzel (assuming the C still double teams Vince Wilfork). Don't think he'd have time to get off a pass for the first down seeing how Matt Walters (DT) got to him a split sec. too late with rushing only 4.
Are you telling me Rolle couldn't tackle Krentzel???? He sure learned how to CB blitz the next year...
But - what the hell do I know. I'm merely a chemical engineer.

All in all - Miami had their chances and didn't capitalize. No excuse for that (except that Coker was a retard).
OSU* did capitalize. I'll give them credit for that.

But - they were handed the game.

I'm beyond mad 4 years later - and I've seen that there's no point in debating this with any Buckeye fans.
You won't change my mind - and I won't change yours.
I suppose I've changed my opinion of most Buckeye fans (thanks to Binge). I don't hate most of you guys anymore. (Only the ones that continually say that OSU* "beat the sh*t out of Miami".)
I don't expect Buckeye fans to denounce their title. I just don't want to listen to BS like what Bucknuts said somewhere on here before "our band and cheerleaders were even better than yours".
Ha.

I'll never forget that BS call though. Never.
You can call me a crier or a whiner. I don't care. I've been around here long enough and been negitive repped/laughed at for even dumber stuff.

I'm honestly not even sure why I'm posting this, seeing as I'm the only Cane fan on here amongst like 5/6 Buckeye fans (if MattD was still around - I'd probably get banned if this were directed at an SEC team

- yet, I digress). Ehh - what the hell do I care? What's another lengthy post in a career of over 4000 lengthy posts here on AM....

Just needed to get my thoughts out after seeing it for the first time in 4 years to you guys - already talked to some Vol friends of mine.

Enough for now.
Here's to a good one in the Orange Bowl on September 11th, 2010.

See you there Buckeyes.
Time to pack "the video" away until, perhaps, 2010...
(Congrats if anyone actually read my ramblings down to here...if you did - here are a few hotties here here we love NCSU here here Ohi-ho and here)
Merry Christmas to all - and to all a good night!

**jmh80** · 01-07-2007, 02:14 AM

Your opinon is the only one that matters.

gten79 · 01-08-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmh80

Alright RD. It's my birthday - I'll post crap and rehash some old sh*t f I wanna . And you have to put up with it.

I watched the game again tonight entirely (it was on ESPN classic) for the first time since that fateful night - Jan. 3rd 2003.
I said I'd watch after Coker was fired - and I did.

The statement of "one play doesn't decide" a game doesn't hold water for OSU* in the Fiesta Bowl. The game was over in the 1st OT when Jenkins DROPPED Krentzl's pass.

Until Terry Porter's oh so fateful flag fell to earth (after most of the UM team was on the field and fireworks were going off).

So - yes, one play DID decide the Fiesta for OSU*. Without that bogus-azz penalty, the game is over.

I will give them credit for taking advantage of the flag.
I will never recognize that they won though.

As a side note - watching "the call" for the first time since that fateful night, it's just sickening how f*cking bad of a pass interference call that was.
Just sickening.
I had forgotten what exactly the play looked like.
Rather curious that he "retired" from officiating after this game..............

It's amazing how much of a home game this was for the Bucks. Quite a few Buckeye hotties (didn't know you guys had those up there

) - that I can appreciate now.

Man, I had forgotten how much losing McGahee hurt the offense. He was just starting to get his rythem when he got hurt about 1 min into the 4th Q (way to be classy Will Allen - double throat slash).
He had like 20 yds in the first half - but 49 and one TD in basically the 3rd Q. With Coker (stupidly IMO - yeah, hindsight is 20/20...) not wanting to burn Frank Gore's redshirt (he had torn an ACL in April 2004 and was practicing on the side IIRC, should have been 80% or so at that point) that he ended up not using, we had little running game with an untested Jarrett Payton (had 40 carries coming into that game) and were forced to go to the pass.

Which brings me to another note - Damn, Winslow was a freaking BEAST in that game. 11 catches for like 130 yards and a TD.
I didn't remember most of those catches. Impressive stuff.

Coker's first ominous appearance that he was a bad head coach: the end of the 4th quarter. Roscoe Parrish returned an OSU* punt to their 30 yard line with UM down 17-14.
What does Coker summarily do with about 2:30 left?

Run the clock down and go for a field goal to tie (Todd Seivers then made an clutch 30 yarder after being iced 3 times by Sweatervest).

In years past - Miami would have gone for the jugular. Coker doesn't even know the meaning of the word.
Jesus.
F*cking throw the ball to Kellen. He couldn't be stopped. It's not that hard, Larry. (Or - maybe it is....)

Another example of Coker being Coker (or maybe this was Shannon - who knows) came in the first OT. OSU* has the ball with a 4th and 14.
What do we do?
Lay back in a puzzy-azz zone and get to Krenzel right after he throws the ball for a first down to Jenkins (rushing only 4).

BLITZ!!!! You had DJ Williams AND Jon Vilma - two freaking future All-Pro's - at LB. God damn - grow some balls Coker.
Move the SS up to the line and blitz a CB - we had Antrell Rolle (a soph) sitting on the damn bench. Leave Sean Taylor back at the first down and play press coverate with the CB's. Leave Vilma in the middle to cover whichever RB comes out (presuming the other sees the CB/LB blitzing and stays to block). Then you are left with a man running free at Krenzel (assuming the C still double teams Vince Wilfork). Don't think he'd have time to get off a pass for the first down seeing how Matt Walters (DT) got to him a split sec. too late with rushing only 4.
Are you telling me Rolle couldn't tackle Krentzel???? He sure learned how to CB blitz the next year...
But - what the hell do I know. I'm merely a chemical engineer.

All in all - Miami had their chances and didn't capitalize. No excuse for that (except that Coker was a retard).
OSU* did capitalize. I'll give them credit for that.

But - they were handed the game.

I'm beyond mad 4 years later - and I've seen that there's no point in debating this with any Buckeye fans.
You won't change my mind - and I won't change yours.
I suppose I've changed my opinion of most Buckeye fans (thanks to Binge). I don't hate most of you guys anymore. (Only the ones that continually say that OSU* "beat the sh*t out of Miami".)
I don't expect Buckeye fans to denounce their title. I just don't want to listen to BS like what Bucknuts said somewhere on here before "our band and cheerleaders were even better than yours".
Ha.

I'll never forget that BS call though. Never.
You can call me a crier or a whiner. I don't care. I've been around here long enough and been negitive repped/laughed at for even dumber stuff.

I'm honestly not even sure why I'm posting this, seeing as I'm the only Cane fan on here amongst like 5/6 Buckeye fans (if MattD was still around - I'd probably get banned if this were directed at an SEC team

- yet, I digress). Ehh - what the hell do I care? What's another lengthy post in a career of over 4000 lengthy posts here on AM....

Just needed to get my thoughts out after seeing it for the first time in 4 years to you guys - already talked to some Vol friends of mine.

Enough for now.
Here's to a good one in the Orange Bowl on September 11th, 2010.

See you there Buckeyes.
Time to pack "the video" away until, perhaps, 2010...
(Congrats if anyone actually read my ramblings down to here...if you did - here are a few hotties here here we love NCSU here here Ohi-ho and here)
Merry Christmas to all - and to all a good night!

I watched the game again too. Man Ohio state must have gave the officials a BCS ring to. Miami was so stacked that year there isn't any reason why they should have lost, unless poor coaching was the case and it was. The difference in that game was that Tressel is a big game coach and Coker is a hack. But I have to admit that game should have ended in the endzone in OT. What a ****ing disgrace....

**jmh80** · 01-08-2007, 09:06 PM

So - wait. According to most of the retard Buckeye fans - you must be a HUGE Miami fan - as Miami fans are THE ONLY folks in the world period that think it was a bad call.

Here's what Rick Reilly had to say (he wrote an article in SI's 1995 issue titled "Why Miami should drop football" - so yeah, he's not a fan of ours).
CNNSI.com - SI Writers - Rick Reilly - SI's Rick Reilly: Fiesta Fiasco - Monday January 13, 2003 01:46 PM

**warnerve** · 01-09-2007, 12:55 AM

For what its worth, I've been a buckeye fan all my life and I will be the first to admit that that win is tainted, other fans can justify it any way they want but I can only imagine the feeling of being miami's players after that call. 2001-2002 miami really was an NFL talent producing machine

**jmh80** · 01-09-2007, 01:00 AM

Honestly - I'd have given up posting on that situation around you guys along time ago (not that I'll forget it....) if your fans would have said just that.
A simple "hey - we know we were handed the game, it was over save for the call - but we'll take it" would have been plenty. I think that's really all the reasonable Cane fans would have liked to see.

Hell - I'm not on Nevada's board to defend a bad call in the Blue Turf bowl. I know it helped us win. I'll take the bad call.