[Brock Landers]

[quote=jmh80]I hate ****ing Ohio State.

A-F'in-Men!!!!!!!

[Rictor33]

baseball is a thinkin mans game, it's meant to be played at whatever pace the players feel like playing at. Some pitchers work really slow then change it up and work really fast to throw the hitters off. Many hitters in a clutch situation call time just b4 the wind-up starts to throw off the pitchers concentration. If you can't be patient with baseball then you dont understand the way it's played. More than one pitching change an inning? So your telling me if in an important game you put in a righty to face say sheffield and a-rod your telling me he shouldnt change to a lefty to pitch to matsui and giambi? Come on dude, not making that change would result you getting ****ed about 30% of the time. You wanna take that chance???

[CEDeoudes59]

Originally Posted by natedogg

Skip Bayless is actually a pretty fit guy. He's more into endurance and health rather than strength and size. If you ever watch Cold Pizza in the mornings the guy is a pretty finicky eater.

damn it. in my face.
my friend worked on the set of cold pizza, has woody paige's cell phone - we'd call him from time to time over winter break.

Terrell Owens also had a cell phone that my friend got from his old agent's son (before Rosenhaus). The kid was drunk and giving out TO's number. Owens was actually a pretty nice guy on the phone (i heard) from of my friends talked to him for 5-10minutes. The one time I called and he picked up - I just said '****' and hung up on him. He'd have funny voicemail message. Actually very funny, not just because he was terrell owens - but funny by any standard.

[CEDeoudes59]

Originally Posted by Rictor33

baseball is a thinkin mans game, it's meant to be played at whatever pace the players feel like playing at. Some pitchers work really slow then change it up and work really fast to throw the hitters off. Many hitters in a clutch situation call time just b4 the wind-up starts to throw off the pitchers concentration. If you can't be patient with baseball then you dont understand the way it's played. More than one pitching change an inning? So your telling me if in an important game you put in a righty to face say sheffield and a-rod your telling me he shouldnt change to a lefty to pitch to matsui and giambi? Come on dude, not making that change would result you getting ****ed about 30% of the time. You wanna take that chance???

Pitching changes are annoying, but I agree that baseball is nearly all matchups. The stats really show this. Left handed hitters like Abreu really have a day to day advantage.
And lefty pitchers like Kenny Rogers (fastball in the mid 80s) probably wouldn't be in the league if they threw right handed.

[natedogg]

Rookies holding out for more money. Dude, you're not a proven NFL player, why are you holding out? That's what incentives and bonuses are for. If you play well enough you just might get a larger contract next time around. FYI, did you know that NO first round draft choices have signed as of yet.

[BingeAndPurge]

Miami fans that cant let it go

Made up baseball stats (holds, ops)

Pitch counts

Barry Bonds

MLS and WNBA

Retired players who lobby for induction votes

Trev Alberts

Espin

Changes in sports talk radio programming

[shootmeagain]

Baseball just needs a 'pitch' clock... like the basketball shot clock. And what's with the batter steppin' out of the box like 10x every at bat? That's not a part of being a 'thinking man's game'. It's boring.

What other sport has unlimited 'time-outs' too?? Goodness.

And there should be a limit to pitching changes. It is overdone. I'm suprised they don't have one guy go out there and throw a fastball and then say, "Hey, get Daniels up there for the next pitch, we need a curve on this one" and so forth. It's overdone.

And what's with the hitting a batter because the previous guy jacked one out on you? That's bullcrap and the pitcher should be thrown out and suspended. I'm not talking about hitting a guy because they hit one of yours for crowding the plate or what not, but retaliation for simply getting beat! That's seriously lame and happens a lot.

And don't get started talking about crying. Soccer does it the most... but just behind them is MLB... waahhh... I was safe, wahhhh that wasn't a strike... waahhh here comes the manager to cry and look a fool...

The thinking man's statement is TRUE... baseball has a lot of strategy and a lot going on in terms of thinking between batter and pitcher/catcher, moving the infield up or back, moving the outfield over... but none of that explains why it takes 20 minutes to get through a single 5 pitch at-bat... it's too long for no reason.

And MLS and WNBA? I thought that was the same thing?? LOL

[natedogg]

^^^^^Coming from a guy with Bicycling in his avatar. If that isn't one of the most boring sports on TV. I'd rather watch paint dry.

[shootmeagain]

Who says sports have to be good for TV? (And I think ESPN 2 has 'paint-drying' on right after Poker on Thursdays at 3am.)

At least a cyclist can walk around the block a couple of times without being winded. And... I have tremendous respect for what these guys can do. Think it's hard to hit a fastball? You're right.. it is. But it's also insanely hard to ride 162km in the mountains... day after day for nearly a month... I can't even fathom hardly how they do it.

Also, I believe Tom Selleck said it best in the movie Mr. Baseball: "We're not athletes! We're baseball players!"

Seriously though, I watch baseball... and I like it very much. I played for several years, in fact, (amatuer of course), but I hate so-called 'purist' who don't have a clue what baseball was like before all the prima-donna, 10 pitcher per game, etc. era.

(By the way, I will give baseball credit for movies. Baseball makes the best setting for sports movies... for the most part.)

[natedogg]

Never said Cyclist weren't athletes. I agree that Cycling is very rough and takes a whole lot of endurance and intestinal fortitude. It's just that...well, it's very, very, boring to watch. Almost as bad as watching guys go around circles on a race car track. Wow, that's exciting. IMO, next to football, baseball is one of the most exciting sports to watch. It's all in the eyes of the beholder I guess.

[joecski]

Originally Posted by natedogg

IMO, next to football, baseball is one of the most exciting sports to watch. It's all in the eyes of the beholder I guess.

I agree with the football closely followed by baseball for excitement. However, lately football has been sickening me, with the return - no return - now return again of Ricky Williams. Is there anyone who believes he would be playing if he didn't owe the Dolphins $8 million? The other thing that is killing me is Drew Rosenhaus - seems like a lot of his players are holding out this season. Now, I may be especially pissed off at this because I live in Philly and one of the holdouts is TO, but, who is TO holding out for - himself or Rosenhaus? It stands to reason if TO gets a new deal Rosenhaus will strike it rich as well. It doesn't seem possible to get good advice from a man who has tons to gain and nothing to lose at your expense.

One last thing - can Larry Brown go away - like forever. I am so tired of hearing about Larry Brown and his traveling show. I wouldn't hire him to paint my house, I'd be afraid he would decide to paint the house across the street before he finished. After all, that's probably his dream job over there. Or is it over there?

OK, done ranting now.

[natedogg]

Yeah but now Rosenhaus is a hero. Don't hate.

Rosenhaus saves boy at Disney pool

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. (AP) -- NFL player agent Drew Rosenhaus performed CPR to save a young boy pulled unconscious from a swimming pool at a Disney World resort hotel Tuesday.

"Rosenhaus brought him back," Torres said.

Rosenhaus, whose hardball negotiating tactics have made him perhaps the league's most notorious agent, said he was at the Grand Floridian to visit clients and ran to help when he heard screaming after the boy was pulled from the pool.

"I dropped my phone, which is pretty rare," joked Rosenhaus, who worked as a lifeguard as a youngster. "I was thrilled to help the boy. It was nice to be a good guy for once."

The Chicago boy was on a trip with his family. He was transported to a hospital but was expected to be fine, said Cpl. Carlos Torres of the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

[shootmeagain]

Hey Nate... I agree about watching baseball, even with what I consider to be annoyances, it is still a great game. Especially now that we are in the second half of the season, it gets a lot more interesting.

[shootmeagain]

Originally Posted by joecski

I agree with the football closely followed by baseball for excitement. However, lately football has been sickening me, with the return - no return - now return again of Ricky Williams. Is there anyone who believes he would be playing if he didn't owe the Dolphins $8 million? The other thing that is killing me is Drew Rosenhaus - seems like a lot of his players are holding out this season. ...

That's why, even though I love 'em both, I think NCAA football is more enjoyable overall than the NFL. Less bullcrap. Unless you count the BCS... which is just a joke now.

Ah well..

[natedogg]

Originally Posted by shootmeagain

Hey Nate... I agree about watching baseball, even with what I consider to be annoyances, it is still a great game. Especially now that we are in the second half of the season, it gets a lot more interesting.

Oh no, you make some really good points, no doubt about it.

[jmh80]

Things that don't piss me off:
Another Ohio State* football player getting arrested.....

[CEDeoudes59]

Originally Posted by natedogg

Oh no, you make some really good points, no doubt about it.

where's rob nen?

oh and, do you know who wrote the original smoke on the water?

[natedogg]

Rob Nen is done. They actually had a ceremony at SBC Park a few weeks back in honor of Nen for his 5 years of service with the Giants. He was really good. It was too bad he threw his arm out.