[jmh80]

Interesting that y'all and VT do not play for the 2nd year in a row. Are we both in the same division? Last I remember we weren't, and I thought VT was in our division.

[Bumbaclaat]

Originally Posted by LakeMountD

Interesting questions. But I will tell you this. Our front four this year is better than last year. In fact Kamerion Wimbley got "most dominant player in spring" award which is pretty damn good to be a d-tackle and get that. Clifton dickson came in second for that! That tells you that our front four is beastly.

As for Watkins I feel bad for him. He has SOMEHOW gotten bumped to second string and he is not happy about it at all. There is a lot of politics inolved I think but hopefully he will have the job come fall. They might be testing him. Kyler Hall (john lynch type of safety) is the other safety.

Noles should really kick ass on D this year!

Strange how the guys last year who did not START going to be better than the ones who STARTED last year. An c'mon, Kyler Hall a John Lynch type safety...more like Kelly Lynch. I do think your defense is going to be good again, however your offense is going to be anemic again. The problem with FSU is that they play waaaaaaay to conservative against us, and if the game is close, we are going to win, period. FSU can talk whatever they want, but when it comes down to it, we know we can win, you guys think you can win.

[LakeMountD]

Haha kelly lynch? riiiight.. your more than welcome to watch the spring prospectus video and see the hits for yourself.. at first i was just merely saying that he is more of a run stopping safety but now that you bring it up he really is an all out good tackler, hitter, etc. he has impressed me greatly with his smarts.. you can talk all the smack you want but it will come down to labor day and monday night. we will see how many yards you get off of cromartie.. dont get me started on your secondary

[Bumbaclaat]

Originally Posted by LakeMountD

Haha kelly lynch? riiiight.. your more than welcome to watch the spring prospectus video and see the hits for yourself.. at first i was just merely saying that he is more of a run stopping safety but now that you bring it up he really is an all out good tackler, hitter, etc. he has impressed me greatly with his smarts.. you can talk all the smack you want but it will come down to labor day and monday night. we will see how many yards you get off of cromartie.. dont get me started on your secondary

Yawn...I've been a Miami fan probably longer than you have been alive and its the same thing every year. You compared a safety that hasn't done much in his FSU career to an NFL Pro Bowler? C'mon. You can diss our DBs all you want but I don't seem to remember them doing too bad against you guys...and that is the bottomline. You can say what you want, but if its a battle between Randy Shannon and Jeff Bowden, I'm going with Randy. Your front seven will be good, but other than Cromartie, your DBs are suspect...even Watkins has poor hips. Who is going to be the other corner? Ford? Bryant? Speaking of your DL, who is going to be the other DE?

I know you are an FSU player, but you can join the long line of FSU players like Eric Moore, Kendyll Pope, sheesh your whole last two senior classes that have yet to beat Miami. Both teams have holes, but I will take our holes over yours.

[LakeMountD]

i wasnt comparing kyler to john lynch.. if you would have read my last post than you would have seen that i was trying to say he is "that type of safety".. there are two types of defensive backs.. physical/hard hitting backs and coverage backs.. its like ty law vs. samari rolle. two TOTALLY different kind of corners. the other corner will be gerrard ross. all i can say is ill see you on labor day.. monday night..

haha your corners didnt do too bad? hell my little sister wouldn't do too bad with chris rix playing qb.. i give your corners no credit there.

and also just because we have guys that have never started before doesnt mean we wont be better on D than last year because it is totally political to get a starting spot in D1 and you can be better than someone and still not start in front of them TRUST ME ON THAT.. and despite our qb situation i remember leon washington being the leading running back for rushing in the ACC

[Bumbaclaat]

Originally Posted by LakeMountD

i wasnt comparing kyler to john lynch.. if you would have read my last post than you would have seen that i was trying to say he is "that type of safety".. there are two types of defensive backs.. physical/hard hitting backs and coverage backs.. its like ty law vs. samari rolle. two TOTALLY different kind of corners. the other corner will be gerrard ross. all i can say is ill see you on labor day.. monday night..

haha your corners didnt do too bad? hell my little sister wouldn't do too bad with chris rix playing qb.. i give your corners no credit there.

and also just because we have guys that have never started before doesnt mean we wont be better on D than last year because it is totally political to get a starting spot in D1 and you can be better than someone and still not start in front of them TRUST ME ON THAT.. and despite our qb situation i remember leon washington being the leading running back for rushing in the ACC

I remember Leon not doing too much to us with a lot better offensive line than he will have this season. "Kyler Hall (john lynch type of safety) is the other safety." That is what you said...now I dunno, I don't have a FSU education, but it is a comparison. I hear you about it being political, but at the end of the day, its about winning, and if someone is better, they play. Wimberly or whatever was not better than Davis or Moore. Are any of your corners better than McFadden or Smith? Kyler Hall may be an upgrade from Osei and Carter, but that isn't saying much.

Look the strength of your team is going to be your LBs...but having guys like Travis Johnson kept OL off of the LBs...but with Nicholson's DUI and Sims' leg break, hopefully they will be ready to go...because I don't want no excuses after no. 7.

Hopefully, you will and I will talk up until the game as I will be in Trailerhassee for the game, and I would shake your hand win or lose.

[LakeMountD]

haha good stuff... hell im a good sport... one of the few kids who doesnt talk **** on the field... no need to just go out there and play, if you get your ass handed to you or whatever than you didnt play hard enough, shoulda trained harder.

I believe Cromartie will be better than McFadden, however, we will have to wait and see whether this will be the year that this is true. If he plays as he has played all spring than I definitly say Cromartie is ready. I have had to run many a routes against him and he truly is a shutdown corner. And I will say this with great certainty that he is a possible future champ bailey (haha and yes this is a comparison). He loves contact and he plays aggressive, he kind of reminds me of a terrel owens but at corner. Very lean, good muscular base, tall, etc. Not extremely shift, but can open the gate fast enough to defend the fade with ease.

Sims will definitely be ready, becuase he will be lifting with his legs again in the next month. Nicholson is fine, despite that crap. and Buster is definitely ready to get out there as well.

I think you guys see our team enough to know our strengths and weaknesses as we do you but there are always surprises and I think our D-lineman are what is going to really surprise you (they sure as hell surprised me).

[Brock Landers]

I hope you and all the other U clones enjoy finishing third in the ACC behind FSU and VaTech.[/quote]


You sir....are an ass. When People write books about how your football program has forever changed the landscape of college football....then talk.....better yet, dont.

UM Clone......good lord....I cant event justify this. We probably have a quarter the fan base of UT...but thats probably because its difficult for one-tooth rednecks to pronounce "Hurricane" anyways.

[jmh80]

@ Brock.


I once had someone ask me who the "Hurrikins" were. (It is difficult to spell how rednecks pronounce.)

[jmh80]

B - get me a ticket to the FSU game!!! I've finally got enough vacation that I can take the Tuesday off. I've never been to an FSU game, really want to go.

[Brock Landers]

Looks like Tennessee just lost Brent Schaeffer for good.....too bad.

[utk1976]

Originally Posted by Brock Landers

Looks like Tennessee just lost Brent Schaeffer for good.....too bad.

Yeah, but I think that everyone saw that coming. He's a good QB, no doubt. Unfortunately, he just happened to land at TN at the same time as Ainge. I suspect that he was not going to be the starter this fall. It will be interesting to see where he winds up.

On a different note, how is Frank Gore's draft stock? I think that the team that takes a chance on him will benefit in the end.

[jmh80]

I've heard Gore is at best a 3rd, but more likely a 4th or 5th. We'll see. I do agree. I think he had the chance to be THE best RB at The U ever after his 9.1 ypc freshman year. It just didn't work out with the knee injuries. Last year it looked like he lost much of his burst. He's a different runner now. He'll just need time to adjust to a more bruising type of game. He definately could be a 1000 yd RB in the NFL.

But, God, was he spectacular in '01!

[utk1976]

Originally Posted by jmh80

I've heard Gore is at best a 3rd, but more likely a 4th or 5th. We'll see. I do agree. I think he had the chance to be THE best RB at The U ever after his 9.1 ypc freshman year. It just didn't work out with the knee injuries. Last year it looked like he lost much of his burst. He's a different runner now. He'll just need time to adjust to a more bruising type of game. He definately could be a 1000 yd RB in the NFL.

But, God, was he spectacular in '01!

NO ONE is the "same" the first year back from knee surgery. Sure, there are exceptions, but that seems to be the case generally. I would not be surprised if Gore improves substantially once he begins working with NFL trainers. Also, I don't think that injuries are the draft day death sentence that they once were. Medicine and rehab have improved greatly. I hope he does really well. I'm also going to keep my eye on Portis up in Buffalo (it is Portis up there right?). Travis Henry had a 1500 yard year for those jerks and they reward him by drafting a tailback. I hope that Henry lands on his feet somewhere.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing that guy Youngblood (true freshman) from Texas. He's supposed to be a monster.

To Brock Landers: Bro, looking back over this thread, I just saw your comments re: me being an ass. Miami had a a great run, but "changed the landscape of college football..."? I'm sure that Alabama, Braska and Notre Dame fans would like to discuss that point with you.

"We probably have a quarter the fan base of UT...but thats probably because its difficult for one-tooth rednecks to pronounce "Hurricane" anyways.

The Vols have a big fanbase. I really don't know why folks in Miami don't support their team. The other two Florida schools don't have that problem. Also, just for the record, I have all my own teeth and 3 college degrees, so I think I can pronounce "Hurricane." (That is, unless I'm busy having sex with my cousin, out in the barn, with a dip of skoal in, next to the General Lee, etc. etc. ad infinitum - just throw in whatever stereotypes you feel are appropriate).

Based on your posts, it would seem that there are some rednecks in Florida as well.

[jmh80]

Willis McGahee. They drafted him thinking he'd be better than Henry. Looks to have turned out correct. He's a physical freak. He'll be one of the best backs in the AFC.

Miami's fan base is more spread out than any other team. I remember in S. FLA there were almost as many Gator and Nole fans. Most of us moved off (those that graduated ended up in larger northern cities it seems). I met quite a few Canes that went to UT while I was there. Part of the problem about support in Miami is that so many people want to move to S. FLA. They come already rooting for another team, for the most part.

Seriously, if you don't think Miami changed the face of college football, you are crazy. No game did more for opening up the passing game than Miami's (led by a freshman QB - Bernie Kosar) upset of #1 Nebraska in the '83 OB for the national title.

And we had a 10 year run (83-93) likely not to be reproduced in the age of scholarship limitations (although SC could if they keep it up).

He was speaking of "How Miami Changed The Face of College Football" by Bruce Feldman of ESPN.