Jose Canseco tells on George Bush, McGwire, Giambi, Ivan Rodriguez, etc.
- 02-06-2005, 09:22 PM
Jose Canseco tells on George Bush, McGwire, Giambi, Ivan Rodriguez, etc.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?****1985653
Canseco: Bush had to know about steroids
After months of talking about naming names in a tell-all book, retired slugger Jose Canseco is about to do just that.
The New York Daily News published details of the former slugger's book, which is still in the editing stages, in Sunday's editions.
Canseco writes that he personally injected Mark McGwire with steroids and that he saw McGwire and Jason Giambi inject each other, according to the paper.
The long-awaited "Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant 'Roids, Smash Hits, and How Baseball Got Big," is scheduled for release by Regan Books on Feb. 21. Regan publicist Paul Olsewski told The Associated Press in an e-mail that the release date could be moved up.
Parent company HarperCollins posted a book description on its Web site that said Canseco "made himself a guinea pig of the performance-enhancing drugs" and added the 1988 AL MVP "mixed, matched and experimented to such a degree that he became known throughout the league as 'The Chemist.'"
McGwire, who has long denied steroid use, said in a statement to the Daily News: "I have always told the truth and I am saddened that I continue to face this line of questioning. With regard to this book, I am reserving comment until I have the chance to review its contents myself."
Canseco claims he introduced the performance enhancers to Rafael Palmeiro, Ivan Rodriguez, and Juan Gonzalez when he joined the Rangers in 1992.
Rodriguez and Gonzalez said that they had not seen book and declined comment. Attempts to contact Palmeiro's agent have been unsuccessful.
"Neither our current owner, general manager and manager were with the Rangers then," Texas spokesman Gregg Elkin said. "The Rangers continue to support baseball's initiative to get steroids out of the game."
Canseco also writes that President Bush "had to have been aware" of rampant steroid use on the Texas Rangers when he owned the club in the early 1990s, the Daily News reported.
The White House had no comment on Canseco's specific allegation, but did say the President called on leagues and players unions to eradicate steroid use in his 2004 State of the Union address.
Giambi's agent, Arn Tellem, took issue with Canseco's credibility.
"This book, which attacks baseball and many of its players, was written to make a quick buck by a guy desperate for attention, who has appeared on more police blotters then lineup cards in recent years, has no runs, no hits and is all errors," Tellem told the Daily News.
A few years ago, Canseco claimed that 80 percent of major leaguers had taken steroids. Last spring, he said: "I think the numbers may have changed. Who knows? Maybe the numbers have diminished."
Canseco hit 462 home runs in a major league career from 1985-2001.
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hair loss from steroids dot com - 02-06-2005, 09:26 PM
so most of that stuff isn't big news to us...
I just don't get why the guys like Canseco, Ken Caminiti, and Victor Conte become the biggest bitches and sell their friends (and everyone else) out.
It may not directly affect us, but your kidding yourself if you don't think the government eats this **** up. This is fuel to the fire in their neverending crusade to punish 'steroid users' - the real drug users in America.My Little Site about Hair Loss & Anabolics-
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- 02-06-2005, 09:43 PM
Canseco is a piece of ****. Whatever happened in "Vegas" should have stayed in "Vegas". Snitches always get their's.
- 02-06-2005, 10:01 PM
Originally Posted by Deoudes59
- 02-06-2005, 10:17 PM
it's pretty low, he could have made money and not ratted people (many of them his former close friends) out.
what a douche bag.My Little Site about Hair Loss & Anabolics-
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- 02-06-2005, 10:33 PM
- 02-06-2005, 11:12 PM
meh i don't know. I thought their might have been a general understanding among users in sports. Don't ask, and certainly don't tell. And if you're a NARC, the people you rat on you destroy your crediblity (or kill you).
Well that's out the window nonetheless.My Little Site about Hair Loss & Anabolics-
hair loss from steroids dot com - 02-07-2005, 08:43 PM
What a douche bag, he is clearly trying to make $$$ I can't believe I idolized him when I was 8. A while back Jim Rome even talked about how he would charge people to visit him while he was in house arrest and had a hotline where he would chat with fans for a fee. This man had a lot of talent and he wasted it, now he's acting like MLB did something to him.
- 02-07-2005, 09:53 PM
Yeah, he's a rat.
It would not be suprising at all that Bush would have known about steroid use back then..but really what is an owner to do about it? Why bother cleaning up your team when it will put them at a disadvantage to all the juicy juice teams out there? - 02-08-2005, 03:55 AM
exactly... no one would want to play for the Texas Rangers if the owner started getting into their personal lives.
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hair loss from steroids dot com - 02-08-2005, 12:58 PM
- 02-08-2005, 08:31 PM
- 02-08-2005, 10:10 PM
The only good that may come out of this that people may not remember this as the Barry Bonds Steroid years.It's not just Bonds, noone can truly estimate how many people have juiced. Remember in the 90's that people started thinking that the ball was "juiced!" HA HA it wasn't the ball. I think everyone should stop whining that the game's tainted, that we need astericks next to records. Let the golden days be the golden days and recent years be what they are, more recent years. To me, it's Sport, it's entertainment.
- 02-09-2005, 09:39 PM
I think Canseco suffered long term brain damage during the game where the baseball bounced off his head and over the wall for a homerun.
- 02-09-2005, 10:07 PM
You know what's funny, is that some people actually believe that steroids make you a better player or that they give a talentless player talent. Let's get real here, there is no drug for hand/eye coordination or the ability to throw a 100mph fastball or the arm to throw a runner out at home from centerfield and I could go on and on. How can someone honestly say that Barry Bonds isn't one of the greatest baseball players of all time. And now because of guys like Canseco people who don't know any better will be questioning Bonds' records and accomplishments forever. Well I say bull****.
- 02-10-2005, 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by natedogg
- 02-10-2005, 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by lvtrojan
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas.../players/3918/ - 02-10-2005, 03:53 PM
- 02-10-2005, 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by lvtrojan
- 02-10-2005, 04:07 PM
John Rocker, Kyle Farnsworth definitly juice (mass building steroids) - but they aren't very good...
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hair loss from steroids dot com - 02-10-2005, 04:13 PM
Now maybe guys like McGwire would benefit from using steroids. He's know for his power and his home runs. Is he known for his fielding? No. Is he known for his hitting ability? Hell no! Steroids could give him extra power to hit a few more home runs, but realistically he's ALWAYS been a homerun hitter. Hell, the guy still holds the record with 32 home runs with USC back in 84.
- 02-10-2005, 04:20 PM
Steroids would help a pitcher throw harder and help his recovery. A guy thats usually gassed in the 5th is now throwing 95 mph in the 7th or 8th. It would especially help an older hardthrowing pitcher (CLEMENS ..oops..did i say that out loud?) pitch a ton of hard innings with less wear on his body.
- 02-10-2005, 04:23 PM
i believe it (roger that).
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hair loss from steroids dot com - 02-10-2005, 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by yankees3
- 02-10-2005, 05:49 PM
If you remember clemens last few years with the yanks he was dogged by injuries . His last year there his hammy bothered him all year. Now that i think about it, wasn't it a hammy injury that McGuire couldn't shake that eventually led him to retire?
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