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    the Eagles with get VICKtimized by Michael.....Atlanta and Pitts in the superbowl and Vick gets superbowl MVP

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    See what I'm trying to understand is everybody this week in the papers and on sports shows have been saying that the Eagles have too much fire power for the Falcons to stop. Well they did a pretty good job of stopping a Rams team that has great receivers and a qb that was on fire. I think ATL will be able to run on Philly, maybe not to the tune of 300 yards but I think they'll be effective enough to do some damage. On the other side of the league I'm so tired of hearing about the job that Bellicheck did to stop the mighty colts. It's called a snow storm. Manning didn't throw down the field once to test the hurt secondary. His play calling was so simplified that game that most teams could've stopped them. Not saying that NE didn't have anything to do with it I'm just saying that if it's clear skies that Sunday it would've been a completely different game. With that said, Pats and Falcons in the superbowl... I hope.
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    Yeah I can see why you would say that. I mean the Colts haven't gotten their asses kicked everytime they've met Bellichick and company.

    Both games are going to be very tough. I don't know how any fan could be trash talking right now. Any of the 4 teams stand the chance of an ass kicking.
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    Regardless of who wins (Eagles will) they will be good games for sure.
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    They should get a new QB. He is not a QB, he had 14 tds and 12 ints on the season; these numbers are like a backups. Instead they should get somebody who can play qb and run a wishbone offense with vick and duckett/dunn in the backfield.
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    Isn't this the same team that got beat by Philly 2 years ago? I remember hearing all this after Vick beat Favre up in Green Bay 2 years ago. The only difference is that they have Peerless Price and the Eagles have a better defense AND Brian Westbrook.

    Did Vick run all over Philly 2 years ago? Nope. He just got crushed by Brian Dawkins.

    Its a no brainer to me but thats why they play the games.
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    Not really a Vick fan - real passing quarterbacks are better but - Vick has matured somewhat, I like the Falcons 17-16 over Philly. It's the same Eagles team as 2 years ago but the Atlanta defense is a serious upgrade to a couple years ago. Maybe they can come up with a turnover or Allen Rossum (former Eagle) can give them some nice punt returns. It will be close....

    Atlanta 17
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    New England 23 (meaningless touchdown at the end of the game)
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    I live in Philly and there is 8 inches of snow on the ground right now. It is going to snow for the next 20 hours. I can't wait to see Vick try to scramble in that. These are real men's elements, not meant for a dome team from the south. Sorry fella's. The fluke is up at 3pm eastern time tomorrow. That cartoon QB is going to remember the hit Brian Dawkins laid on him 2 years ago in the playoffs, and if that doesn't keep him in the pocket, a field covered in snow and ice will. Get over it Falcon fans. The dream is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deoudes59
    Not really a Vick fan - real passing quarterbacks are better but - Vick has matured somewhat, I like the Falcons 17-16 over Philly. It's the same Eagles team as 2 years ago but the Atlanta defense is a serious upgrade to a couple years ago. Maybe they can come up with a turnover or Allen Rossum (former Eagle) can give them some nice punt returns. It will be close....

    Atlanta 17
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    New England 23 (meaningless touchdown at the end of the game)
    Pittsburgh 6

    How did he mature? He sat out a whole year and his numbers are not good at all (except for running)

    The same eagles team? Jevon Kearse, Lito Sheppard, Michael Lewis? Not to mention their front 4 are MUCH better.

    Oh I forgot, Donovna isn't coming off a broken ankle either. That game 2 years ago was his first coming back and they still won.

    Its not the same team at all yet I still see the same impact players on the Falcons. I remember they were saying the Falcons defense was great 2 years ago and that they would confuse people with their 3-4 defense. Didn't happen and VIck was a non-factor.
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    I see the key to this game as being Eagles S Brian Dawkins. The snow will hamper indoor Vick, The Eagles 3-4 will contain the Ends with the speed of Kearse and force Vick to the middle for the Backers and Dawkins is the key on Blitz and limiting TE Crumpler when Vick has to go there when his running is denied. Dunn will get his yards, but not Michael Unvicktorous this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    How did he mature? He sat out a whole year and his numbers are not good at all (except for running)

    The same eagles team? Jevon Kearse, Lito Sheppard, Michael Lewis? Not to mention their front 4 are MUCH better.

    Oh I forgot, Donovna isn't coming off a broken ankle either. That game 2 years ago was his first coming back and they still won.

    Its not the same team at all yet I still see the same impact players on the Falcons. I remember they were saying the Falcons defense was great 2 years ago and that they would confuse people with their 3-4 defense. Didn't happen and VIck was a non-factor.
    Oh I thought you had said it was the same Eagles team... they also got that Owens guy. I wonder if he can come back for the BIG GAME. Just talked to my friend in Philly 8inches already and no chance of it stopping. The game will be on Vicks shoulders. (he did win in Greenbay - but not in this kind of snow)

    Like I said, he has matured only somewhat. He is simply more comfortable and defenses have to take his arm a little more seriously. He has good chemistry with Crumpler - which will be critical in tomorow's short game.

    Like you said, his rushing stats are superior to his passing numbers. But he doesn't look to rush first anymore (maybe he should).

    Again, I'm not a Vick fan - or believe he's 'Shaq:Lakers' in terms of dominance.

    It will be an upset if the Falcons win, and it will have to be because the Falcons Defense gives them a short field and forces turnovers. Vick will have to manage the clock, and not fall into 3rd and long. I believe he was the most sacked Quarterback in the NFL, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    Isn't this the same team that got beat by Philly 2 years ago?
    okay, I misread this.
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    Owens wanted to play this week! Doc said no. He is catching passes but not running and cutting yet.

    Atlanta scored 2 special teams TD`s in Green Bay, people seem to forget this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
    I see the key to this game as being Eagles S Brian Dawkins. The snow will hamper indoor Vick, The Eagles 3-4 will contain the Ends with the speed of Kearse and force Vick to the middle for the Backers and Dawkins is the key on Blitz and limiting TE Crumpler when Vick has to go there when his running is denied. Dunn will get his yards, but not Michael Unvicktorous this day.
    Very good call. I can't imagine Philadelphia NOT winning this game by at least 14 points.

    I think it's a little sad really to hear the sports press talking about how Philly has come up short 3 times in the last NFC championships, and how that must be causing them to feel more "pressure".

    What it gives them is more DRIVE. Atlanta will feel the pressure of the situation more, being it's their first trip.

    Rest assured Eagles fans, your team will win decisively tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC1
    Rest assured Eagles fans, your team will win decisively tomorrow.

    This is what worries us

    THey SHOULD win, but if there is snow, it usually ends up a close game which I do NOT want.

    I hope they cover that field then clear that **** out FAST.
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    The snow will not be a problem. It hasn`t been snowing, except flurries, for hours and the forecast has changed to 2-4" more done by 6am. The wind will be more of a problem and the fact that windchill maybe -* at kickoff. It`s 0* now and cold has all hell
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    I can't see the eagles loosing this one. There is so much hype with vick. IMO he is the most overrated QB in football. He has about 150 yards passing and 60 to 100 yards rushing a game. Every week all the commentators make excuses for him and every week they say he is going to have a break out game the following week. The Falcons had a weak schedule and the NFC was horrid this year. If KC and Tampa Bay can blow them out of the water, I can't see how phili. won't do the same.
    I hope they cover that field then clear that **** out FAST.
    Wouldn't you want the snow? Vick and the Falcons aren't used to it. I would think it would be an advantage for the eagles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla

    Wouldn't you want the snow? Vick and the Falcons aren't used to it. I would think it would be an advantage for the eagles.
    Because with a good amount of snow, games are close (for the most part). I don't fear Vick running around simply because it will be very cold and the Eagles have a great history with running QB's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaGorilla
    I can't see the eagles loosing this one. There is so much hype with vick. IMO he is the most overrated QB in football. He has about 150 yards passing and 60 to 100 yards rushing a game. Every week all the commentators make excuses for him and every week they say he is going to have a break out game the following week. The Falcons had a week schedule and the NFC was horrid this year. If KC and Tampa Bay can blow them out of the water, I can't see how phili. won't do the same.

    Wouldn't you want the snow? Vick and the Falcons aren't used to it. I would think it would be an advantage for the eagles.
    Hate to say it, but I think you're right. This will be the year Philly finally reaches the Super Bowl. Now let's just hope the Falcons can prove me wrong.
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    Fly Eagles Fly, On the road to victory!

    Having rooted for my Iggles since the championship teams of the forties, I have a good feeling about today's game. Granted TO is out (and would be back for a SB) but at least they are otherwise healthy even compared to last year. Now McNabb, Westbrook, Dawkins, Mayberry, Thomas, Burgess among the starters are back healthy and Kearse, Trotter, Jones, Shepherd, Brown, and Rayburn are new additions/promotions. That's seven current/recent pro-bowlers. That's a big reason why I feel so good about their chances today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchman
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    Well I can see I'm obviously outnumbered here by Philly fans but I have to disagree when you guys say the weather will slow down ATL. Theyre a running team, bad weather usually favors running teams. Vick also played his college ball in Blacksburg, I'm sure there was a bit of snow there a few times and he was still a stud. And no they very much are not the same team from two years ago. If you look at the stats from that game Vick threw the ball 38 times. 38 TIMES!! That's like a 2-3 game total from this year. I agree if he does throw that many times today ATL is in BIG trouble. But I don't see that happening. What I'm interested in seeing is if the Eagles give up a score early or are behind at the half, how do they react? Should be a good one, specially since I hear the wind is going nuts so the air game might be thrown out the window.
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    There is a reason who threw that much, there was nowhere to run.
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    The Bulldogs draw more fans than the Falcons.... I wonder how many more playoff teams sell less tickets than thier NCAA counterparts
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    I would actually say a lot since most college stadiums are bigger than their professional counterparts. Tell me how many NFL stadiums seat over 80,000?

    And also about the not having anywhere to run, that was back in a completely different offensive system under Dan Reeves. Which really arent that close. Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting 300 yards on the ground but they will be able to move the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyBoy

    And also about the not having anywhere to run, that was back in a completely different offensive system under Dan Reeves. Which really arent that close. Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting 300 yards on the ground but they will be able to move the ball.
    Yeah, that system encouraged him to run. Ths current west cost hybrid version has him in the pocket more and we see what has happened. When he is forced to pass, he is not that good.

    For someone to have as many INT's that he has in a ball control type offense shows that he is quite overrated and very vulnerable.
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    Ok, I stated that wrong. The system that Reeves had in place very much encouraged Vick to run, but was a predominately short pass dink and dunk system mixed in with play action deep. He didn't know how to use his rb's. I doubt to see Vick pass for more than 25 times today and expect him to probably complete about 13 of them. They are very commited to the run, even when it's not working. I think Vick is more vulnerable to fumbles than int's. Every time he takes off my heart stops cuz he seems to refuse to tuck the ball.
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    92,000(SANFORD) VS. 72,000(Georgia Dome) vs. how many home games?
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    Its halftime.

    I'm nervous.
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    penalties, otherwise Philly is playing better.
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    Yeah, but I'm a philly fan. If its close, I'm REAL nervous.
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    and Vick throws it right to Dawkins....
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    It's over, the better team definitly won.
    Vick wasn't much of a leader today - he was hanging his head since the 1st quarter. He wasn't much of a player either.
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    New England is the only team who can play with Philly. I know the Steelers beat Philly before - but this Philly team is hungry.
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    Michael Vick WHO?
    Holy Crap that was funny. I had never really watched a Falcons game at all this year. Vick is a horrible passer. It's almost like he is afraid to throw the ball.
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