Michael Vick

[CEDeoudes59]

I think Steve Young was maybe the best of all time. Young had to replace Golden Joe too. Vick was been a welcome replacement to Chris Chandler.
Vick seems like kind of a sore loser and unmotivated, maybe i'm looking into it too much - but hes always hanging his head, walking back to the huddle without any emotion.

[Iron Warrior]

I think Steve Young was maybe the best of all time. Young had to replace Golden Joe too. Vick was been a welcome replacement to Chris Chandler.
Vick seems like kind of a sore loser and unmotivated, maybe i'm looking into it too much - but hes always hanging his head, walking back to the huddle without any emotion.

He would have posted some huge stats if he didn't back Joe up from 1986-1990. What Joe had that Steve didn't was a much better coaching staff and a great defense. The 49ers had Ronnie Lott, Charles Haley, Fred Dean, Matt Millen, Bill Romanowski, Michael Carter (very underrated run stuffer). Steve Young also had no runnig game when Derek Loville and Terry Kirby were the featured backs for some years

[CEDeoudes59]

Why was Jeff Garcia chased away?
Owens, Garcia, and Mariucci were all encouraged to find work elsewhere.
All 3 are well better than average at what they do. my opinion...

[Iron Warrior]

Why was Jeff Garcia chased away?
Owens, Garcia, and Mariucci were all encouraged to find work elsewhere.
All 3 are well better than average at what they do. my opinion...

Because the owner is a ****ing moron. He's a businessman who runs a football team with a business mentality. He wouldn't have anything to do w/the franchise if Eddie DeBartolo would have stayed away from the riverboat gambling business

1. T.O. wanted to sign a long term contract 2 years before he became a free agent but John York didn't think it was a good idea.

2. They wanted Jeff Garcia out because they thought Tim Rattay would be better, this was based on 2 good games he played against the Steelers and the Rams when Garcia got hurt. Garcia wasn't the problem, it was the defense. The guy even proved he could win in the play-offs with that huge comeback win vs the Giants.

3. Mariucci was fired IMO because of fiasco with T.O. He actually got the team back to the play-offs just 2 years after they lost Steve Young which is pretty damm good IMO considering all the salary crap problem they had (and have according to York LOL) They missed the play-offs in Dennis Erickson's first year with practically the same team from the previous year, granted they did lose Garrison Hearst, Jeff Garcia for awhile and Eric Johnson (very underrated Tight End) was hurt all year.

[CEDeoudes59]

They are very disorganized. And without a reasonable defense - they won't see the playoffs for a long time. Kevan Barlow looked really crappy, and I don't know if Maurice Hicks is much better.
I really think Garcia is a decent QB in the right scheme - he'd throw the 40times a couple years ago and post 350-400yards - a fantasy football stud. I don't even see many of the younger guys they brought in as even decent NFL players. Lloyd, Rashaan Woods?
Cedric Wilson looked like their best reciever.
It's a mess, and I expect the 49ers to do nothing with whoever the draft pick is.

[CEDeoudes59]

Draft Mike Williams!
not Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers

[Rictor33]

San Fran screwed themselved to the same tune the Raiders and soon the Redskins did. They spent too much money with rear-loaded contracts that all but guaranteed 2-3 years of ****ty rosters at the expense of winning now (3 years ago). They 49ers are paying people that arent on their team anymore, it's known in the NFL front office as "dead money" and when you manage your cap poorly or just try to buy a championship (Yeah Dan Snyder) this is what happens. Thats why all of these super-star players are being cut this year after big seasons. Mushin Muhammad was statistically the #1 WR this year and without his #2 WR by his side and he was cut, because if they were to eat his contract they would be screwed in the future, same goes with the pats and TY Law. And now the Raiders and C. Woodson, the raiders are going to be in deep **** because they are 15 million dollars over the cap now and have to sign Randy Moss and Jerry Porter to huge contracts. IMO this is just stupid front office management and is unfair to the fans who have to sit through years where they have players like Kevin Barlow (without an O-line) as their #1 offensive player.

[Wes Hopkins #48]

It's funny, some teams get themselves into salary cap hell just trying to make a run at the Super Bowl (49ers, Titans). Other teams get into that hole just trying to be a contender (Redskins). It's all in the management.

The York family has killed a great franchise. The are slowly becoming the Phillies of the NFL.

[Iron Warrior]

They are very disorganized. And without a reasonable defense - they won't see the playoffs for a long time. Kevan Barlow looked really crappy, and I don't know if Maurice Hicks is much better.
I really think Garcia is a decent QB in the right scheme - he'd throw the 40times a couple years ago and post 350-400yards - a fantasy football stud. I don't even see many of the younger guys they brought in as even decent NFL players. Lloyd, Rashaan Woods?
Cedric Wilson looked like their best reciever.
It's a mess, and I expect the 49ers to do nothing with whoever the draft pick is.

Rashawn Woods actually did good when he played but Erickson didn't utilize him enough. Another guy with great potential who was hardly ever played was Derrick Hamilton (rookie WR from Clemson). They knew they weren't going anywhere so why not give these guys a chance to see what you have

Kevan Barlow played like a puss. The guy is 240 and he shies away from contact as if he were a 190 lb. scatback. He didn't have a line, but he still should have showed more heart IMO.

The problem with Brandon Lloyd is they thought he'd be a superstar because he makes acrobatic catches, WTF do acrobatic catches have to do with how good you are ? Give me the guy who can catch a 10 yard slant and turn itno a long gain, not the guy who makes 1 great catch every other game but never gets more than 50-70 yards a game

[Iron Warrior]

They 49ers are paying people that arent on their team anymore, it's known in the NFL front office as "dead money" and when you manage your cap poorly or just try to buy a championship (Yeah Dan Snyder) this is what happens

Yup, they are still paying J.J. Stokes and payed Jim Druckenmiller, Gabe Wilkins, Antonio Langham and a few other a lot of money for nothing. At least the Raiders and Redskins are trying though, the 49ers just wanna make a profit.

[Iron Warrior]

Draft Mike Williams!
not Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers

They're not gonna do that, it would make too much sense

[Wes Hopkins #48]

If I was them, I would trade down a couple of times and get some more picks. They need O line badly.

[Iron Warrior]

If I was them, I would trade down a couple of times and get some more picks. They need O line badly.

I just don't like the O-linemen that are available in the 1st round. They can get similar guys in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

They should trade down a few spots for an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder and get a pass rusher like Erasmus James or Marcus Spears OR a big play receiver like Mike Williams or even Braylon Edwards IMO, but they'll probably find a way to screw up. Talk around town has been that they're going with Aaron Rodgers but who knows what could happen w/the combine. I just don't want them to be impressed by someone's 40 and draft the next big bust

[oswizzle]

if the Falcons dont get Plaxico Burress they are ****ed,,,i am over Derick Mason or any other Reciver who is under 6'1...looks like another ****ty season for Big Mike unless they get him a Wideout! or Maybe they SHould make a deal to St Louis for Orlando Pace,,Vick with sick O-Line could probally break the Rushing Record set by Eric Dickerson lol