Cam Newton - The whole story
- 12-09-2010, 12:01 PM
- 12-09-2010, 12:18 PM
12-09-2010, 12:32 PM
12-09-2010, 12:35 PM
The point of the article is that the NCAA knows MORE ABOUT THIS CASE than any blogger/PAC 10 commisioner or idiot on this forum. If they come out saying he is good to play then it should be a sign. Especially since he's repeatedly stood by his word. How much of a PR nightmare would it be if this all came out that Cam/Auburn really did do things wrong and the NCAA president has to explain how he was so sure about his decision on this situation but now is wrong? I'm sure the NCAA president is a tad bit more intelligent than the people on this forum to do something that dumb.
12-09-2010, 12:38 PM
You don't find it ironic that Reggie Bush's investigation went on 5 years, and somehow, someway they could wrap up Cam's investigation in what, less than 5 weeks... just in time for championship season?
12-09-2010, 12:42 PM
The Reggie Bush situation involved ALOT more people and ALOT more benefits. When no cash is exchanged in a situation, it makes it much easier to clear it up. Also, the Reggie Bush situation I'm sure helped the NCAA realize how to go about this situation in getting it handled quickly.
12-09-2010, 01:44 PM
12-09-2010, 02:31 PM
"The NCAA noted that reinstatement decisions are separate from the enforcement process and usually are "likely to conclude prior to the close of an investigation."
In other words it ain't over hoother so enjoy your ruling made in record time at the money time of the season, NCAA and FBI investigators are still on the case. All the circumstantial stuff points to sCam taking money at Auburn and I am not as capable as the NCAA and the SEC of dismissing all that circumstantial information. It would have taken nothing short of a money trail or taped conversations or video to FORCE the NCAA to act swiftly on the matter. I do believe they will act but it will be long after the millions have been taken in and spent. I love college football and I am not in the camp that says everyone does this kind of stuff. Everyone does not have a history of elaborate schemes to pay players, that is simply false, Auburn on the other hand does. Unsubscribed because even if Cam knocked on you door and said "dude I took that money" you wouldn't believe him.
12-09-2010, 02:49 PM
Again, please answer this question. Name ONE thing that has been proven that Auburn has done wrong.
"All the circumstantial stuff points to sCam taking money at Auburn"
I asked you this before and you ran from it. Let's see if you can answer it this time.
If cam Did in fact take money from AUBURN I will boycot going to any Auburn game for a long period of time. It'll mean that I wasted thousands of dollars and time this year. However, I don't think so. I wouldnt of spent 2,000 dollars on NC Airfaire and tickets if I did think this season was bogus. Trust me, if it happened, I'll be as disappointed as anyone. Probably wont be a college football fan period for a long time. But I have not seen ONE FACT that states that Auburn did anything wrong.
12-09-2010, 04:53 PM
12-09-2010, 05:15 PM
12-09-2010, 06:57 PM
12-09-2010, 07:42 PM
And I stand by it. Even more so that they would not be biased towards Auburn.
Nice come back though. Still awaiting that ONE FACT that Auburn did something wrong in this situation. Seems like between all of you that one person could at least come up with one :/.. Kind of saddening.
12-09-2010, 09:34 PM
12-09-2010, 09:52 PM
Not everyone is running in the president of AnabolicMinds election like you rubby. I express my views just as I expect anyone else to.
12-09-2010, 09:57 PM
12-10-2010, 08:28 PM
This article encapsulates what the majority of the country thinks about this year's edition of the BCS NCG:
Excuse me for my lack of holiday cheer. It's hard to be merry when the two best players in college football – Auburn's Cam Newton and Oregon's LaMichael James -- have turned the national title game into the Sewer Bowl.Moral dilemma for college football fans: How do you clap your hands and hold your nose at the same time?And my personal favorite...As for SEC Commissioner Michael Slive, he says Newton retained his eligibility because there is no evidence the player knew of his father's "reprehensible act." Puh-leeze. I would have had much more respect for Slive if he'd have just admitted that Cam Newton is the SEC's meal ticket to a fifth straight national championship.
It's a good thing one of Auburn's most revered football traditions is to hang toilet paper from the trees at Toomer's Corner after big victories. The Tigers will need every bit of that toilet paper to wipe away the stench emanating from this BC-Mess National Championship Game.
12-10-2010, 08:30 PM
Here's a handy-dandy flow chart for those lazy folks who didn't read the first post...
12-10-2010, 08:57 PM
Did anyone catch the ESPN interview where he referred to himself in the 3rd person, dodged the "the money was too much" issue, and called his dad "Cecil?"
Chris Fowler: "So the reports are untrue that you had conversations with them (the Mullens) about Auburn payments?"
Cam Newton: "I'm not going to talk about any reports."
Now, I'm pretty sure Auburn wouldn't have frowned on Cam answering, "Yes, those reports are untrue"...
Unless giving that answer would be a lie.
It's mind-blowing to me that anyone, including an Auburn fan, could watch that interview and not know with every fiber in their being that Newton is a pathological liar.
Mark McGuire was more convincing.
Btw, am I the only one who sees this guy on trial in the future for killing a white woman? (no O.J.)
12-11-2010, 12:06 AM
I'll get to all your responses hooter Tomorrow when I have some time. For some one who talks about gathering facts you really haven't produced much more then biased views and taking quotes out of context an interpreting them in a way that suites your argument. I'm all for debate an hearing what people believe an why they think it to be true whether it be ignorantly spoken out of there ass or not. I don't have a desire to go round an round regardless of any proven points in a he said she said posting war. No **** the NCAA hasn't been able to prove anything. Most of the investigation was spawned from wire taps on individuals suspected of washing dirty money. The NCAA was instructed to start with Mississippi State i.e. The Auburn investigation probably wont have any light shed on it for 2 years. Yes it would be naive to believe their isn't a big name school that doesn't operate by giving "incentives" to players to be drawn to there school. It's another argument completely to act as if any indication made is bull****. Idc what you hear on the Jim Rome show in the afternoons after school honestly or read on espn. It's irrelevant to say the least.
If you fall apart in crisis, then there wasn't much to you to start with
12-11-2010, 12:07 AM
12-11-2010, 01:30 PM
12-12-2010, 01:12 AM
12-12-2010, 01:18 AM
Also, I cant put much faith into the NCAA bias accusal. Auburn had a great recruiting class in 93, went undefeated. And, they were hit with probation then as well before season.
This thing didn't just end in a short period, it's been ongoing. Everyone close or "behind the scenes" knows that it's been going for months now.
12-12-2010, 01:31 AM
If I give a guy a card and have someone that works there tell him to play a certain section of machines because they are more prone to hit, why wouldn't the kid play those machines and believe he/she is honestly winning the money? It does not have to be that they are TOLD that they are going to be given "left handed" winnings via fixed machines. I am not saying either way, they knew or didn't know or was weary or not, but I know some have been there and won. I also know that some have gone in and were under the legal age to play...these are facts, not propaganda.
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