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NCAA PRESIDENT DEFENDS CAM NEWTON AGAIN

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NCAA president Mark Emmert, speaking Wednesday at the IMG Intercollegiate Athletics Forum in New York City, again defended the decision to allow Auburn quarterback Cam Newton to retain his eligibility.

"The burden of proof that we have to rely on before we make a decision that affects a university, a young man, a program, or a young woman in a program, is obviously greater than someone who writes in a blog or somebody who has heard a rumor or has a story," Emmert said.

"That decision understandably causes people some angst and stretches credibility when you say, 'Gee, there wasn't any knowledge at the institution or with the individual. It's all been in the media.' But those, in fact, are the facts as we know them. We have to deal with those facts. And I'm actually pleased with the way our people handled it and pleased with the process."

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

Hate it for you guys.

[AE14]

I just think it's funny that everyone posts all of these "ideas" like they know more than the NCAA and SEC. I had never once heard about the casino thing with the Auburn players. The only casino scanadals have been with politicians such as the idiotic mayor of Birmingham. Don't get me wrong, this state is corrupt. But if Auburns players were really running to the casino weekly to get money, it'd be pretty obvious. Kids have too big of mouths for that not to get out.

No comments about Alabama having top recruiting classes every year but the current #25 recruiting class paying all of it's players? Or the rest of my post for that matter.

I like argument, I have just seen way too many conspiracy theories and they seem to be getting more and more ridiculous.

I dont think that anyone makes the assumption that Auburn would be the first program in D1 to ever pay someone. Hell....I think most programs are giving "incentives" to the 5 star recruits. To assume otherwise is downright naive imo

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

Hate it for you guys.

Did you actually read that article? Much of it is about how the rest of college football disagrees with the decision. Open up your eyes numbnuts that ruling is in no way an exoneration merely an exploitation of the rules. The ruling is a potentially disastrous precedent going forward, you should be proud.

"A number of prominent college sports administrators spoke out about the decision. Jim Delany, the commissioner of the Big Ten and a former NCAA investigator, told The New York Times that the NCAA "missed an opportunity to stand up."

"What I would say on any third-party issue is that the analysis in my view, whether you're an assistant coach, president or a booster or a parent, is that there ought to be accountability," Delany told The Times. "There ought to be consequences."

"Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott told The Times his office had heard from a number of schools concerned with the decision."

"Late Wednesday, USC athletic director Pat Haden told The Los Angeles Times that he was surprised by the NCAA's ruling on Newton."

"USC was hit with sanctions this past summer in the wake of the Reggie Bush investigation."

"In the Reggie Bush case, when the parent [did] something inappropriate the kid and the school suffered," Haden told The Times."

"I was always told the parent is the child. That's what we've been telling our kids," Haden said to the paper. "If the parent does something inappropriate the child suffers the consequences."

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But the main point of the article is that these people are BIASED. The NCAA IS NOT.

NCAA president Mark Emmert, speaking Wednesday at the IMG Intercollegiate Athletics Forum in New York City, again defended the decision to allow Auburn quarterback Cam Newton to retain his eligibility.

"The burden of proof that we have to rely on before we make a decision that affects a university, a young man, a program, or a young woman in a program, is obviously greater than someone who writes in a blog or somebody who has heard a rumor or has a story," Emmert said.

"That decision understandably causes people some angst and stretches credibility when you say, 'Gee, there wasn't any knowledge at the institution or with the individual. It's all been in the media.' But those, in fact, are the facts as we know them. We have to deal with those facts. And I'm actually pleased with the way our people handled it and pleased with the process."

These quotes are EXACTLY what I've been pushing all along. I would leave it to buckyboy to try to pull something negative out of anything. The NCAA president stated that USC's opinion on the matter was garbage and then you post 5 quotes from from him.. hmmm... poor bucko.

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I dont think that anyone makes the assumption that Auburn would be the first program in D1 to ever pay someone. Hell....I think most programs are giving "incentives" to the 5 star recruits. To assume otherwise is downright naive imo

Oh, they do. If they dont they are the biggest hipocrits known to man. So take your poison.

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But the main point of the article is that these people are BIASED. The NCAA IS NOT.

BAhahahaha... Oh that statement takes the cake.. the NCAA is not biased, heard it all now.

I assume your logic got thrown out the window along with Cam's stolen laptop!

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BAhahahaha... Oh that statement takes the cake.. the NCAA is not biased, heard it all now.

I assume your logic got thrown out the window along with Cam's stolen laptop!

So you're saying that everyone wants to brag how Auburn is one the most penalized teams in college football history but now the NCAA is biased towards them? Please explain.

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The point of the article is that the NCAA knows MORE ABOUT THIS CASE than any blogger/PAC 10 commisioner or idiot on this forum. If they come out saying he is good to play then it should be a sign. Especially since he's repeatedly stood by his word. How much of a PR nightmare would it be if this all came out that Cam/Auburn really did do things wrong and the NCAA president has to explain how he was so sure about his decision on this situation but now is wrong? I'm sure the NCAA president is a tad bit more intelligent than the people on this forum to do something that dumb.

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So you're saying that everyone wants to brag how Auburn is one the most penalized teams in college football history but now the NCAA is biased towards them? Please explain.

You assertion that NCAA is in anyway non-biased is ridiculous. They have a strong bias toward certain schools, and most of all they have a bias toward ratings and money.

You don't find it ironic that Reggie Bush's investigation went on 5 years, and somehow, someway they could wrap up Cam's investigation in what, less than 5 weeks... just in time for championship season?

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The Reggie Bush situation involved ALOT more people and ALOT more benefits. When no cash is exchanged in a situation, it makes it much easier to clear it up. Also, the Reggie Bush situation I'm sure helped the NCAA realize how to go about this situation in getting it handled quickly.

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You assertion that NCAA is in anyway non-biased is ridiculous. They have a strong bias toward certain schools, and most of all they have a bias toward ratings and money.

You don't find it ironic that Reggie Bush's investigation went on 5 years, and somehow, someway they could wrap up Cam's investigation in what, less than 5 weeks... just in time for championship season?

5 weeks? More like 5 minutes

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You assertion that NCAA is in anyway non-biased is ridiculous. They have a strong bias toward certain schools, and most of all they have a bias toward ratings and money.

You don't find it ironic that Reggie Bush's investigation went on 5 years, and somehow, someway they could wrap up Cam's investigation in what, less than 5 weeks... just in time for championship season?

Exactly! hoother you're so stubbornly blind in this matter. The NCAA is going to protect their cash cow(football) from a scandal. The BCS bowls generate 10s of millions of dollars. That article clearly state
"The NCAA noted that reinstatement decisions are separate from the enforcement process and usually are "likely to conclude prior to the close of an investigation."
In other words it ain't over hoother so enjoy your ruling made in record time at the money time of the season, NCAA and FBI investigators are still on the case. All the circumstantial stuff points to sCam taking money at Auburn and I am not as capable as the NCAA and the SEC of dismissing all that circumstantial information. It would have taken nothing short of a money trail or taped conversations or video to FORCE the NCAA to act swiftly on the matter. I do believe they will act but it will be long after the millions have been taken in and spent. I love college football and I am not in the camp that says everyone does this kind of stuff. Everyone does not have a history of elaborate schemes to pay players, that is simply false, Auburn on the other hand does. Unsubscribed because even if Cam knocked on you door and said "dude I took that money" you wouldn't believe him.

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Again, please answer this question. Name ONE thing that has been proven that Auburn has done wrong.

"All the circumstantial stuff points to sCam taking money at Auburn"

I asked you this before and you ran from it. Let's see if you can answer it this time.


If cam Did in fact take money from AUBURN I will boycot going to any Auburn game for a long period of time. It'll mean that I wasted thousands of dollars and time this year. However, I don't think so. I wouldnt of spent 2,000 dollars on NC Airfaire and tickets if I did think this season was bogus. Trust me, if it happened, I'll be as disappointed as anyone. Probably wont be a college football fan period for a long time. But I have not seen ONE FACT that states that Auburn did anything wrong.

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Again, please answer this question. Name ONE thing that has been proven that Auburn has done wrong.

"All the circumstantial stuff points to sCam taking money at Auburn"

I asked you this before and you ran from it. Let's see if you can answer it this time.


If cam Did in fact take money from AUBURN I will boycot going to any Auburn game for a long period of time. It'll mean that I wasted thousands of dollars and time this year. However, I don't think so. I wouldnt of spent 2,000 dollars on NC Airfaire and tickets if I did think this season was bogus. Trust me, if it happened, I'll be as disappointed as anyone. Probably wont be a college football fan period for a long time. But I have not seen ONE FACT that states that Auburn did anything wrong.

So I am trying to decipher this statement. Lemme see if I get this right.

So, because you spent 2Gs to go to games, Cam didn't take money?

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So I am trying to decipher this statement. Lemme see if I get this right.

So, because you spent 2Gs to go to games, Cam didn't take money?

Are you seriously ignorant or are you just pretending to be? Me spending the money shows that I really do not believe Auburn has done anything wrong in this situation. It doesn't make it a FACT. But I have seen no FACT that shows Auburn HAS done anythign wrong.

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Are you seriously ignorant or are you just pretending to be? Me spending the money shows that I really do not believe Auburn has done anything wrong in this situation. It doesn't make it a FACT. But I have seen no FACT that shows Auburn HAS done anythign wrong.

Coming from the guy who claimed the NCAA is unbiased!

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And I stand by it. Even more so that they would not be biased towards Auburn.
Nice come back though. Still awaiting that ONE FACT that Auburn did something wrong in this situation. Seems like between all of you that one person could at least come up with one :/.. Kind of saddening.

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Not everyone is running in the president of AnabolicMinds election like you rubby. I express my views just as I expect anyone else to.