Philadelphia Eagles fans, no haters please

[jaydollars]

i just saw that O lineman on NFL channel at the wisconsin pro day. he looked pretty small. i want us to get a nasty angry mean fat guy with no teeth.

yea I want another Runyan, and huge bulldozer that makes Tuck look like a baby

[R1balla]

you guys are talking about Gabe Carimi. He is 6'8" 320....thats a good size lineman right there. and yes, i agree. if we trade kolb, we need to draft CB peterson. dude is raw. develop lindley more and we will have our future CBs

[AntonG42O]

you guys are talking about Gabe Carimi. He is 6'8" 320....thats a good size lineman right there. and yes, i agree. if we trade kolb, we need to draft CB peterson. dude is raw. develop lindley more and we will have our future CBs

o hes that big? ok nvm

yeah peterson is a beast

[petethepianis]

phillies and eagles <3

[R1balla]

Danny Watkins is a perfect fit. im pumped

[AntonG42O]

me too! hopefully we can get something good from the kolb trade.

[Flaw]

Danny Watkins is a perfect fit. im pumped

He looks like one, but I'm so used to all hype in philly. We haven't had a real leader on the line since runyan. The big thing I'm worried about though is Vick needs someone to cover his blindside, last year he was getting nailed time after time and they did nothing to solve the problem. Wish they would address that issue more openly.

[R1balla]

Justice had a need issue and had surgery during this offseason. He performed well in the beginning of the season. eagles are very high on winston and with Howard Mudd coaching, he can only get better. Speculation has it that, depending on how danny watkins does during camp and preseason if we have one, he will either play RG or LG and todd would move to LG to help with vicks blind side. but that whole blind side, IMO, is a bunch of crap. even if pass rushers come on the opposite side of blind side, vick isnt looking at them, hes looking down field anyways so in reality, every side is a blind side.

[AntonG42O]

o man read the article on philly.com about Mudd and his style. eagles players already talking about how Mudd is much more capable than Juan. and we moved Juan to Def Cordinator, good luck defense..

[R1balla]

have u actually thought of why they moved juan to defense? sure its hit or miss, but if its a hit, andy reid is gonna look like a freakin genius.

and yes, mudd is the best O line coach in the NFL. and washburn is the best D line coach in the NFL. it all starts at the line!

[AntonG42O]

have u actually thought of why they moved juan to defense? sure its hit or miss, but if its a hit, andy reid is gonna look like a freakin genius.

and yes, mudd is the best O line coach in the NFL. and washburn is the best D line coach in the NFL. it all starts at the line!

yes you explained to me your view. what if juan is simply not a very good coach and he is still on the team because of being Andy's boy? dont get me wrong i hope you are 100% right

[Flaw]

but that whole blind side, IMO, is a bunch of crap. even if pass rushers come on the opposite side of blind side, vick isnt looking at them, hes looking down field anyways so in reality, every side is a blind side.

Yea, a quarterback should be focused on looking downfield but the majority of shots I saw vick take were from his blind side. I seriously thought Justice was gonna get him killed by the end of the season. I was probably more upset over vick taking shots then anything last year. The O line was just non-existent. If they get a good leader in there (hopefully danny) that pumps the guys up and makes them perform better it could be a whole different line.

[R1balla]

yes you explained to me your view. what if juan is simply not a very good coach and he is still on the team because of being Andy's boy? dont get me wrong i hope you are 100% right

where did u see juan was not a good coach? he was one of the best OL coaches in the league and highly regarded and coveted by alot of NFL teams. He had so many injuries on the O line and inconsistency from players. new center, RG was a huge hole, and an upcoming player in RT.

as far as being andys boy, wasnt dmac his boy? dawk? b west? he lets ppl go when he needs/wants to. he understands if he doesnt do his best, he is gone also.

[R1balla]

Yea, a quarterback should be focused on looking downfield but the majority of shots I saw vick take were from his blind side. I seriously thought Justice was gonna get him killed by the end of the season. I was probably more upset over vick taking shots then anything last year. The O line was just non-existent. If they get a good leader in there (hopefully danny) that pumps the guys up and makes them perform better it could be a whole different line.

vick taking shots was NOT completely all the O lines fault. sure it had a big influence, but lets talk o line first then get to vick.

Peters is locked in at LT
Todd H is locked at LG, possibly RG
Jammal Jackson and Mike McGlynn will compete at C. If mike loses, he will compete for RG or LG as well as backup at all three inside line positions.
Watkins likely starter at RG unless Todd plays RG and he competes with Mike McGlynn for LG/RG
Dunlap/Justice will duke it out for RT. Dunlap played pretty well last season and eagles were impressed. with mudd, he may beat out Justice.

Justice he even said his knee should have had surgery during the season, therefor ending his season, but he played through it. that affected his play. i am not worried about him. he played very well during the beginning/middle of the season. clay matthews blew him up round 1 of playoffs.

Now on to VICK
Teams were not blitzing him at all during most of the season. When we had miracle at the meadowlands, NY put out the blueprint on how to stop vick. when vick was heavily pressured, he did NOT check down at all to Mccoy or his quick slant, he kept looking down field, scrambling and most of the time running away like he did in ATL.

He had a very hard time picking up the blitz. combine that with poor O line and you are screwed.

Also, this was his first year back as a STARTER. he hasnt seen a heavy, blitz happy team in years. I guarantee that is one of his main focus' this off season. He even said he is constantly watching tape right now and going through in his head what he did wrong and how he can fix it.

as far as your leader, look for jamaal to make a solid return and be the anchor of the O line barring no injuries

[AntonG42O]

where did u see juan was not a good coach? he was one of the best OL coaches in the league and highly regarded and coveted by alot of NFL teams. He had so many injuries on the O line and inconsistency from players. new center, RG was a huge hole, and an upcoming player in RT.

as far as being andys boy, wasnt dmac his boy? dawk? b west? he lets ppl go when he needs/wants to. he understands if he doesnt do his best, he is gone also.

well for one, players said that when they watched tape with Mudd he got pissed at all the things that Juan would praise. im also not sure why Juan couldnt make something out of Stacy Andrews and why (as the article states) Peters has struggled to fit into Juan's system. for guys that performed well on other teams i dont see why they cant do the same on the eagles.

Dunlap was close to not making the team last year. they were saying how he couldnt get low which was something he needed to do being 6'7". im just skeptical at this point. we have a championship caliber team and instead of going out and hiring **** Jauron or someone else we move Juan to Defense. Sounds to me like they wanted to hire Mudd and didnt want to fire Juan.

[Flaw]

vick taking shots was NOT completely all the O lines fault. sure it had a big influence, but lets talk o line first then get to vick.

when vick was heavily pressured, he did NOT check down at all to Mccoy or his quick slant, he kept looking down field, scrambling and most of the time running away like he did in ATL.

He had a very hard time picking up the blitz. combine that with poor O line and you are screwed.

Also, this was his first year back as a STARTER. he hasnt seen a heavy, blitz happy team in years. I guarantee that is one of his main focus' this off season. He even said he is constantly watching tape right now and going through in his head what he did wrong and how he can fix it.

as far as your leader, look for jamaal to make a solid return and be the anchor of the O line barring no injuries

I'd give the blame about 90% on the o line. Vick made a effort to stay in the pocket more then he ever has. He did a great job too for what he's not known for doing. What I didn't get was why didn't they bring in the FB to help out to protect him when he was getting globbered time after time. The last few games of the season were like watching someone get killed and you know how to save them and you can't do anything about it. I couldn't believe they would allow it to happen time after time. I'm like do they want this guy to get hurt? What's going on!!!

Also the play calling as usual. They weren't working the screen and utilizing the backs like we saw for years with westbrook. I don't know where they game went. That would of definetely helped out vick. They had a good rushing game too but they didn't utilize that enough. They were averaging near 5 yards a carry.

[R1balla]

well for one, players said that when they watched tape with Mudd he got pissed at all the things that Juan would praise. im also not sure why Juan couldnt make something out of Stacy Andrews and why (as the article states) Peters has struggled to fit into Juan's system. for guys that performed well on other teams i dont see why they cant do the same on the eagles.

Dunlap was close to not making the team last year. they were saying how he couldnt get low which was something he needed to do being 6'7". im just skeptical at this point. we have a championship caliber team and instead of going out and hiring **** Jauron or someone else we move Juan to Defense. Sounds to me like they wanted to hire Mudd and didnt want to fire Juan.

whoa whoa whoa....hoooold up. Peters has struggled in Juans system? why did he make the pro bowl two years in a row? and King almost not making the team??? who else would have been backup Tackle? a rookie? no way. and where is stacy andrews now? there is a reason he isnt doing anything. he is garbage. Im not sure where u read all this info on mudd not liking Juans system....eagles never leak inside info.

[R1balla]

I'd give the blame about 90% on the o line. Vick made a effort to stay in the pocket more then he ever has. He did a great job too for what he's not known for doing. What I didn't get was why didn't they bring in the FB to help out to protect him when he was getting globbered time after time. The last few games of the season were like watching someone get killed and you know how to save them and you can't do anything about it. I couldn't believe they would allow it to happen time after time. I'm like do they want this guy to get hurt? What's going on!!!

Also the play calling as usual. They weren't working the screen and utilizing the backs like we saw for years with westbrook. I don't know where they game went. That would of definetely helped out vick. They had a good rushing game too but they didn't utilize that enough. They were averaging near 5 yards a carry.

vick lost faith in his O line and had to rely on his athletic ability to get the job done which produced sacks. he didnt start to get sacked until the Giants second game which they blitzed ALOT and laid the blueprint on how to stop vick.

[R1balla]

check my new thread in this section. i basically broke down the starting roster

[BigKoolWhip]

i look at it this way the receiver is just as good as the qb. If you have an on point qb the receiver will be just as good. If u have a horrible qb thats never good. Mcnabb had the weapons and he did hook up with them many times but over the years of the playoffs and super bowl where it mattered the most he choked. I agree that mcnabb should have never had to put up with all the criticism but hey philly fans are the toughest and any pro athleate in philly will tell u that and if u cant play to the fans expectations and not be able to put up with criticism then get out. All these years mcnabb has played for the eagles not 1 superbowl ring to show. What a shame. Hopefully Kolb get 1 or a few rings!!!

texans dont use criticism we use andre johnson to get u off of the field.