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    Will Tebow fit in anywhere ?


    I'm not really a big fan of college fball so I am not sure how skills may transfer from college to pro ball and am really wondering where Timmay might go . Now I am a die hard Pats fan but live in North Carolina and wouldnt mind seeing that jackass Delhomme replaced by Tebow . Or any other QB who doesnt enjoy throwing so many red zone INT's for that matter . Thoughts ?

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    this is the million dollar question.. Every year there is a QB who is called a winner such as grrham herrel from texas tech or Colt Brennan (Hawaii) etc.. but the word is over used Tebow is a true winner. He is the best leader in all of sports college or professional. Some of his deep balls are right on the money and are great throws. however some of them arent at all and look really bad.

    Couple negatves are he played exclusively in shotgun and has bad mechanics. Postives are his down the hill running ability and he is damn near automatic on 2,3,4th and short... If he gets drafted by a team Like Minnisota where he can sit behind Favre and learn get reps in practice for a year or two then become a starter it could happen. He would also come of the bench and do a wildcat in short yardage situations. He will be worked into the lineup just like he was in college his freshman year. NO WAY will he come in and start day 1.
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    I dont see him as a QB in the NFL, however he has plenty of options on both sides of the ball.

    On Offense, he could work very well as an HB, as he would add a lot of versatility. However, I think his best option is on D, as a SS. With his size, speed and football accumen, he could do really well. He would be a DC's dream IMO
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    I have become a fan of his lately and hope he does very well in the NFL.

    Having said that is he fast enough of a runner to do well in the NFL as a running QB or a HB?
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    I agree that SS would be very suitable for him.
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    When was the last time a player from College switched positions to play in the pros. I'm not talking LB to DE or something similar. Matt Jones did it a few years ago QB to WR and he never panned out. Physically Tebow could play SS but what are the odds of that really happening? I am thinking very slim. He will be drafted and play as a QB.
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    He might be able to play, but not like he did in college. If he tries to run over a pro linebacker, Ray Lewis comes to mind, he's gonna wake up in 2012.
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    I think Tim will do fine, they will work on his mechanics and coach him up, he has a diffrent mind set then 98% of cats that get drafted. Hes a hard worker and dosent get involved in the non sense that comes with being a celeb. I think it will take a season but it would not benifit him to switch posistion's, hes a qb and has good qb IQ so hell bust his but and succed. Plus the lord is on his side so nothings impossible.
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    Tebow will do just fine at the professional level; and as a quarterback. The scouts have issues with his mechanics (which he has things to work on; especially delivery), but there is not a player in college football right now that has better leadership/motivational skills. Tim has all the skill and potential in place, and in the hands of some good coaching and mentoring he'll develop into a top tier guy in the end; mark my words. What he's accomplished at the collegiate level is nothing short of remarkable.

    They questioned Percy Harvin's abilities and potential for injury. I don't even need to elaborate on what he's done at the pro level up to this point. As of right now, the most productive and dynamic of his draft class.

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    I'm not so sure about there being a question of where he will play (on the field that is) but more of a question to his longevity. There have been a plethora of "great" college players that have gone to the NFL and vanished within 2-3 yrs. This has been the norm for the past 25 years. There really isn't anything that is going to change that.

    His best chance is that if he goes to some team who DOESN'T need an immediate QB. If he can go to a decent team and have an opportunity to learn the system then he may do alright. Typically, and with a grain, but typically, the most impressive players do not come from the best collegiate programs (meaning not traditionally good vs just a few recent years of being great). There are exceptions and maybe he will be one of them, but as of now, it's hard for me to see it.

    His collegiate style of play (talking about on the field, not motivational skills) does not lend well to the NFL when you are facing 80+ possible defensive schemes vs 20+ at the collegiate level. The whole scrambling and running is a tool less used in the pros when you have 34 yr old lineman blocking for you against 25 yr old LB's. This is not a great formula for long term success if you are a running QB in the NFL.

    A few have done it, Elway, young, favre, vick, cunningham, but besides Vick, and Favre on certain days, the others had tremendous accuracy and tremendous systems around them.
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    The biggest knock on Tebow is his release time. That was the issue with Alex Smith and he's a different QB now that he's improved his release. I would take him in the 3-5 round if I were the Eagles, Vikings, Patriots, Colts, Cardinals, Saints, and Seahawks. All these teams won't have a need for a QB until 2-5 years down the road and they all have established veterans that can help Tebow improve his game in that time.

    The guy can be a heck of a fullback if he doesn't go the QB route. He could be another Mike Alsttot and easily get you 700 yards rushing and another 500 yards receiving.

    He could be a Steve Young on steroids if he fixes that throwing release time.
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    I don't see Tebow panning out, unless a team does what Atl did with Vick and they mold the offense to fit the QB. Tebow likes to run and a team is going to have to work with his strengths or he won't pan out. I want him to do well, but at the same time, the name is overused, and it's getting old. If he starts his first year, he'll be destroyed, because any team picking him will look for his leadership, and it's different in the NFL. His leadership worked well as a college athlete and as he built his college rep, he'll need to do the same in the NFL or whatever team he lands with will ruin him.

    A team like Minnesota would be a good fit, as Favre might have a few years before he re-re-retires, and Aaron Rodgers benefited quite well from that. Minnesota could get him too as he doesn't seem to be a high ranked draft choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrowe8 View Post
    When was the last time a player from College switched positions to play in the pros. I'm not talking LB to DE or something similar. Matt Jones did it a few years ago QB to WR and he never panned out. Physically Tebow could play SS but what are the odds of that really happening? I am thinking very slim. He will be drafted and play as a QB.
    Success is an interesting term. It could be a 5 year run, and it be successful. Tebow has options on both sides of teh ball, I just cant see QB as one of them.
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    I am very interested to see what actually happens with him. I think he can play QB at the NFL level.

    Would be a nice fit for a wildcat formation eh?
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    hes not an NFL QB his receivers are much better than he is. hes great at hitting wide open guys when they are on their route perfect but he cant read D for crap... if you call a guy who lost his only game against a ranked opponent a winner I guess that's your prerogative. Alabama showed how average he really is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tansui View Post
    hes not an NFL QB his receivers are much better than he is. hes great at hitting wide open guys when they are on their route perfect but he cant read D for crap... if you call a guy who lost his only game against a ranked opponent a winner I guess that's your prerogative. Alabama showed how average he really is
    Where the hell are you getting your stats from? The back of a freakin' cracker jack box? Better yet, do you even watch college football? Seriously?

    Wow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Success is an interesting term. It could be a 5 year run, and it be successful. Tebow has options on both sides of teh ball, I just cant see QB as one of them.
    That's what they said about Steve Young and he turned out okay BUT he did get tutored by obi one Montana from 1987-1992. It seems the overall thought is he can be a decent QB but it will take time.

    Personally, I would play fullback or tight end if I were Tebow because I couldn't stand to be a spectator for 4-5 years. The only thing stopping him from playing QB could be his thirst to get on the field with a chance to make plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Where the hell are you getting your stats from? The back of a freakin' cracker jack box? Better yet, do you even watch college football? Seriously?

    Wow...
    did you see Alabama give him every chance to win and he couldn't throw the ball in the 4th to save his life? did you see that buddy
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    Personally I think Tebow's work ethic will make him a great pro. I just don't know that it will be at quarterback.
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    Everyone has their "professional" opinion on how good or bad TT will do in the league. When he was in HS all the "experts" also said he should play linebacker or TE, and look how he panned out in college, pretty darn awesome.

    I have a real problem with people who pull against this kid but that's a whole other convorsation. I think he will be a good pro QB because that's where his heart is at and if you wanna bet against Tim Tebow's heart, go ahead.

    To the guy who said Bama made him look average, geez man. Their D let them down in that game, not Tim. His 4rth quarter performance in the exact same game in 08' proves how accurate of a QB he really is. For people who say he's not accurate, go watch that game and you will no longer question his accuracy. Trust me, I've seen every down Tim has played and accuracy is not his problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tansui View Post
    did you see Alabama give him every chance to win and he couldn't throw the ball in the 4th to save his life? did you see that buddy
    The real question here is have YOU even watched college football for the last 4 years? If you did, you would see that Tim Tebow has amounted numerous SEC records (most notably the touchdown record), a Heisman trophy, 2 SEC championships, and 2 National Championships. Pretty average accomplishments, huh?

    It's already been stated that accuracy isn't Tebow's problem; if you watched some tape on him you'd see that. He has some work to do on his mechanics, but saying he "couldn't throw the ball in the 4th to save his life" is absolutely ridiculous. I guess there is an I in your team mentality...

    Your whole logic is flawed; Typical "gator hater" mentality. The reality being, Tim Tebow is/was one of the best college football players to ever play the game; period. We'll see how he does at the next level, but there is no challenging or even arguing what he's accomplished or achieved at the college level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    The real question here is have YOU even watched college football for the last 4 years? If you did, you would see that Tim Tebow has amounted numerous SEC records (most notably the touchdown record), a Heisman trophy, 2 SEC championships, and 2 National Championships. Pretty average accomplishments, huh?

    It's already been stated that accuracy isn't Tebow's problem; if you watched some tape on him you'd see that. He has some work to do on his mechanics, but saying he "couldn't throw the ball in the 4th to save his life" is absolutely ridiculous. I guess there is an I in your team mentality...

    Your whole logic is flawed; Typical "gator hater" mentality. The reality being, Tim Tebow is/was one of the best college football players to ever play the game; period. We'll see how he does at the next level, but there is no challenging or even arguing what he's accomplished or achieved at the college level.
    I didn't say his accomplishments were average I said HE is average (see Tyler Hansbrough) I understand you love Tebow lol that's your right, but hes just an ave qb
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    I'm sure some team out there needs a chaplain. Or if a team craves an attention whore, Timmy's the man. Hell, we have a white Terrell Owens on our hands. HAHA!!

    No seriously, the guy is a true athelete and leader. I would like him on my team, but too bad he was coached by and played for a college that has no morals. He would have developed much better as a quarterback on a top tier Big 10 team ((cough)).
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    Im really not trying to come off like i hate Tebow or the gators, I think hes got character and leadership the NFL can use more guys like him. I just don't think he has the goods. Im sure Michale Vick could Let Tony Dungee stay retired and higher Tebow as a life coach OR he could be Pacman Jones chaperon for when he goes out with the guys

    (edit: remember how in the 90s whatever team signed D. Rodman had to sign Jack Haley lol it could be like that)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tansui View Post
    if you call a guy who lost his only game against a ranked opponent a winner I guess that's your prerogative.
    Your saying that Tebows only game against a ranked opponent was the Alabama game? So the other 30+ games of his career against the powers of the SEC (LSU, Auburn, F-State, Georgia etc...) and the National title games were all against unranked opponents?
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    Florida should have never been ranked #1 based on strength of schedule they played 2 ranked teams all year and got out classed by Alabama. (my bad for saying they had 1 ranked opponent this year I forgot they had to play LSU lol)

    1 Alabama
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tansui View Post
    if you call a guy who lost his only game against a ranked opponent a winner I guess that's your prerogative.
    4 years of dominating the SEC, I would say he has beat some quality teams.

    Alabama got the best of him this year. The guy is not perfect. However, as a QUARTERBACK he has dominated the game playing top quality programs for years.

    Not to mention, I can name quite a few great Quarterbacks in the NFL right now who at times looked down right AWFUL in some college games. Eli Manning comes to mind with Ole Miss....

    Tim Tebow threw for a 58% completion percentage and for 247 yards with a touchdown. Not to mention ran for another 63 yards. He had nothing to do with Florida losing to Alabama. He had a 120.0 QB Rating for crying out loud.

    Anyone with a career 65% completion percentage, 8,803 yards, and 85 touchdowns in 4 seasons has my respect.

    Tebow vs Alabama:
    2006: Florida defeated Alabama - 28-13
    2008: Florida defeated (1)Alabama - 31-20

    -I would say Tebow has had his fair share of good games against Alabama. As Meatloaf would say "2 out 3 ain't bad."

    I apologize for rambling. I just think summing up this guys' QB ability by how he played against the best team in the nation this season (which wasn't a "bad" showing by any stretch if the imagination) is ignorant.

    I am not a Florida Gators fan, quite the opposite actually; but this guy is a proven winner. He has won 2 BCS National Championships. He will help any team he plays for WIN, regardless of what position he plays.
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    again i say see Tyler Hansbrough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tansui View Post
    again i say see Tyler Hansbrough
    Bringing up Basketball players does nothing for your side of the debate. This is Football. I could care less what someone did in the NBA after college.

    At least use Football players for your arguments.

    What's next? Are you going to look up what Women's College Basketball star didn't succeed in the WNBA and compare them to Tim Tebow?

    P.S. Give Tyler some time, holy cow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tansui View Post
    Florida should have never been ranked #1 based on strength of schedule they played 2 ranked teams all year and got out classed by Alabama. (my bad for saying they had 1 ranked opponent this year I forgot they had to play LSU lol)

    1 Alabama
    2 Texas
    3 TCU
    4 Cincinnati
    5 Florida
    6 Boise State
    7 Oregon
    8 Ohio State
    9 Georgia Tech
    10 Iowa
    11 Penn State
    12 Virginia Tech
    13 LSU
    14 Miami (Fla.)
    15 Brigham Young
    16 Oregon State
    17 Pittsburgh
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    19 Stanford
    20 Nebraska
    21 Oklahoma State
    22 Arizona
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    25 Central Michigan
    Based on what, your opinion?

    They entered the season the defending national champions returning their entire team on defense; as well as the most dynamic player in college football (Tebow). Yes, they most certainly did deserve their #1 ranking.

    Oh yeah, who was it again that had a 22 game win streak (the longest in CFB) extending from last year? Yep, that was Florida too...

    Florida has nothing to be ashamed of. You can't win every game, and you're going to have bad games no matter how good you are (as a team). It's not Tebow's fault they lost that game. Alabama played very well, and the Gator Defense was apathetic. A sugar bowl berth is a great bowl game, and I look forward to watching my boys stomp the bearcats into the ground.

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    We'll have to agree to disagree for now. Come next year well see what he does, because i think someone is going to give him the ball (Oakland, Washington etc.) I just don't see him on a Vince Young/Mark Sanchez level. I hope I'm wrong cause as I said before he seems like a quality guy and the NFL can sure use some good role models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tansui View Post
    We'll have to agree to disagree for now. Come next year well see what he does, because i think someone is going to give him the ball (Oakland, Washington etc.) I just don't see him on a Vince Young/Mark Sanchez level. I hope I'm wrong cause as I said before he seems like a quality guy and the NFL can sure use some good role models.
    Yes, we'll agree to disagree at this point.

    You are right that the NFL needs some good role models. The "Thug" image that some of them display has gotten really, really old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Yes, we'll agree to disagree at this point.

    You are right that the NFL needs some good role models. The "Thug" image that some of them display has gotten really, really old.
    I seriously agree with the last point both of you have made. The thug mentality has made the NFL look more and more like the NBA.
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