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    So is anyone else here a St. Louis Cardinals fan? El Hombre is ON FIRE early in this year, and right behind him is Luddy and Molina. This year is shaping up nicely, and only more good is to be seen.

    I want to see someone of our rookie talent take over Wellemeyers spot for a while. Wellemeyer is a good pitcher, but he always has to warm up into the season... we cannot just throw away wins this way while he finds his groove. I would like to see PJ Walters a few more times before we pidgeon hole him into relief.

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    i am not but i will say this. i was in St. Louis this last weekend when they played the Cubs. and that town loves it's Cards. i was in a Chili's for dinner and it was loud, not just in the bar either, come to think of it, there was no one in the bar yet. the people in the regular seats were loud. here in Chicago you don't see that a lot. sometimes at sports bars a couple of people get load but not like that....i'm not a cubs or sox fan but i wonder if the cards fans are like that cause theres only one team in St Louis, where as Chicago has two.......you never know if your going to offend someone if your rooting for a different team up here. its like when you see a Green Bay fan around football season.....man, those fans are taking there lives in their own hands coming down here when the bears are playing them..
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    Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    i am not but i will say this. i was in St. Louis this last weekend when they played the Cubs. and that town loves it's Cards. i was in a Chili's for dinner and it was loud, not just in the bar either, come to think of it, there was no one in the bar yet. the people in the regular seats were loud. here in Chicago you don't see that a lot. sometimes at sports bars a couple of people get load but not like that....i'm not a cubs or sox fan but i wonder if the cards fans are like that cause theres only one team in St Louis, where as Chicago has two.......you never know if your going to offend someone if your rooting for a different team up here. its like when you see a Green Bay fan around football season.....man, those fans are taking there lives in their own hands coming down here when the bears are playing them..
    Haha... Normally Cards fans are pretty respectful of other teams fans here. I have seen some back and forth at times though. I think people are die hard red here because of the cards such rich history, not to mention the abundance of World Series. But yeah.... being down town when a game is on is just a different experience all together, this is definitely a baseball town all around. The atmosphere is just electrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Haha... Normally Cards fans are pretty respectful of other teams fans here. I have seen some back and forth at times though. I think people are die hard red here because of the cards such rich history, not to mention the abundance of World Series. But yeah.... being down town when a game is on is just a different experience all together, this is definitely a baseball town all around. The atmosphere is just electrifying.

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    oh yea. don't get me wrong here....i liked it, the energy the resturant crowd had. it was awesome. i was just not used to it......normally you see that "up here" during the playoffs or something not this early in the season......of course we do have the Cubs, the team that will never win a pennant
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    Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    oh yea. don't get me wrong here....i liked it, the energy the resturant crowd had. it was awesome. i was just not used to it......normally you see that "up here" during the playoffs or something not this early in the season......of course we do have the Cubs, the team that will never win a pennant
    Ah... Our *****s.
    Cubs do have some heart though... every year they think they are going all the way.... then nothing.

    Cubs are the Yank's of the NL, but without the pennants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Ah... Our *****s.
    Cubs do have some heart though... every year they think they are going all the way.... then nothing.

    Cubs are the Yank's of the NL, but without the pennants.

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    easy there.......i'm a Yank's fan, and i live in Chicago, that should tell you how dangerous i am......(kidding)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    easy there.......i'm a Yank's fan, and i live in Chicago, that should tell you how dangerous i am......(kidding)
    At least the yank's have pulled a few pennants out of their 400M a year budget.

    Money doesn't produce a cohesive team... proof comes from CC Sabathia's over paid contract.

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    Hell yeah...born in raised down there...live up in Chicago now...but I'm still supporting redbirds...F the Cubs
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    huge cardinal fan my whole life. Carepenter out, making an outfielder into a second baseman, etc. La Russa and DUncan are just phenomenal in terms of getting the absolute most of their teams.

    Pujols IS LORD
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    Quote Originally Posted by trayhawk View Post
    huge cardinal fan my whole life. Carepenter out, making an outfielder into a second baseman, etc. La Russa and DUncan are just phenomenal in terms of getting the absolute most of their teams.

    Pujols IS LORD
    AMEN. Living in this era to watch El Hombre is amazing.

    I love seeing a rookie line up. Think Franklin will hold onto the closer role this year?

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    Pujols is a quite an athlete. No doubt about it.

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    Franklin will problaby implode soon here, he has been lights out lately. Was hoping Motte could have held down the fort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Franklin will problaby implode soon here, he has been lights out lately. Was hoping Motte could have held down the fort.
    Me too... I like Motte's character. He is a fast paced pitcher, something you don't see to often in the big leagues now. I hate when pitchers take their sweet time to take 10 minutes a hitter. Unfortunately Motte wasn't ready for opening day. I didn't think it was right to put a rookie in a close situation on opening day anyway. But right now Franklin is shutting the door, and I really hope he stays that way. But if last year is any inkling, then he will be hot at first, then lose it. Everyone screams perez for closer, but he doesn't have the movement and control Motte is attaining, and Motte can throw just as hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Pujols is a quite an athlete. No doubt about it.
    Pujols is THE baseball athlete of this generation. But also an actual fine human being to boot. I am glad he is playing with us instead of against us.

    Not to mention, I love that he is a Cubs killer, specifically Zambrano!

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    We all know the Cubs are going to take the Central this season! LOL all in good sports guys
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    Although, Pujols is a BEAST I must admit. I have him on my fantasy team
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubbiesfan View Post
    We all know the Cubs are going to take the Central this season! LOL all in good sports guys
    Oh no doubt.. i love the Cards/Cubs *****ry... it the best in baseball no doubt. And usually if you go to the others field you get treated pretty respectfully. Which is not something I can say for most other teams home field.

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    Oh man... what a great series. Cards vs. Cubs.

    **Singing**
    How sweet it is to be swept by the cards!

    Man, Piniero, Waino and Carp were ON FIRE! Seeing a spark in these pitchers is AMAZING... of course not to leave out good old El' Hombre having a knack for going the long ball in the first inning!

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    "Cubs fan" and "respectful" can never be accurately used in the same sentence.

    <- This is what every Cub fan is doing inside Busch Stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShakesAllDay View Post
    "Cubs fan" and "respectful" can never be accurately used in the same sentence.

    <- This is what every Cub fan is doing inside Busch Stadium.


    When I was leaving, I grabbed a janitors broom and started sweeping Busch stadium.... oh man was that great. All in good fun, but man, did it piss people off.

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    Reds fan here. Yea I know, we suck. But if it wasn't for Pujols id hate the Cards. But you all will probably win the Central. Anyone but the Cubs.
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    F*ck you, DA, you and your f*cking Cards!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryManback View Post
    Reds fan here. Yea I know, we suck. But if it wasn't for Pujols id hate the Cards. But you all will probably win the Central. Anyone but the Cubs.
    Reds are a hard hitting team this year. I wouldnt discount them yet. I would like to win the central, but the brew crew has to hit a skid. The cubs wont win the central this year for sure. There are to many type A personalities on that team to be lead by Lou Pinella. Milton Bradley was probably the worst pickup they have had in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    F*ck you, DA, you and your f*cking Cards!
    I am sorry IL... I cannot hear you over my two handfuls of championship rings that are just clanking while I walk. I ain't my fault the last cubbies championship was before the flight of man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Reds are a hard hitting team this year. I wouldnt discount them yet. I would like to win the central, but the brew crew has to hit a skid. The cubs wont with the central this year for sure. There are to many type A personalities on that team to be lead by Lou Pinella. Milton Bradley was probably the worst pickup they have had in a long time.

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    I hate that we let Mark DeRosa go... what a dumb ass mistake! K. Wood should have stayed as well; although, I don't think a closer role is right for him. Too bad him and Prior could not stay healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    I hate that we let Mark DeRosa go... what a dumb ass mistake! K. Wood should have stayed as well; although, I don't think a closer role is right for him. Too bad him and Prior could not stay healthy.
    Its funny, cause DeRosa is on the market again... probably one of your worst mistakes! I wish the cards would pick him up, since we are a black hole on 3rd... with Glaus a question mark, and the youth not producing there, there needs to be some big epiphany. I personally would like to see last years draft Brett Wallace (The Walrus) get a chance, he produces at the bat, his glove is something to be desired, but put someone with range like Ankiel behind him and he is golden, since I think Rasmus should stay our perm CF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    I hate that we let Mark DeRosa go... what a dumb ass mistake! K. Wood should have stayed as well; although, I don't think a closer role is right for him. Too bad him and Prior could not stay healthy.
    D. Rose was studly last year (no homo). With all that stress of selling the team, they were bound to make some mistakes in the offseason. I think they should have dealt Zambrano earlier in his career. Too overrated IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Its funny, cause DeRosa is on the market again... probably one of your worst mistakes! I wish the cards would pick him up, since we are a black hole on 3rd... with Glaus a question mark, and the youth not producing there, there needs to be some big epiphany. I personally would like to see last years draft Brett Wallace (The Walrus) get a chance, he produces at the bat, his glove is something to be desired, but put someone with range like Ankiel behind him and he is golden, since I think Rasmus should stay our perm CF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    D. Rose was studly last year (no homo). With all that stress of selling the team, they were bound to make some mistakes in the offseason. I think they should have dealt Zambrano earlier in his career. Too overrated IMO.
    Agreed, Big Z can hit for a pitcher, but he doesn't have all the talent people keep screaming about... he can throw hard, but movement isn't there like it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Ankiel's arm is too valuable to leave him in Left. He is actually one of my favorite players, even if he did juice.
    Rasmus has a hell of an arm as well, and good range and speed, really they are interchangable. I honestly don't care which one goes where, but I think Rasmus is doing to well in that spot to move him, he is a Jim Edmonds a decade ago with an evolving bat.

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    Yea the hitting has come on as of late, but its the pitching that has to get them there. The young guys are great, but I just wanna punch Harang. How did he ever get the 1 spot?? AND we have a pitcher who is one of the best hitters on the team. Dusty Baker is worthless to. Weve got a good small ball team, with a little more speed, and he still sets up the order for HR. At least the Central is tight this year. It wasnt long into last year when it just didnt matter anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryManback View Post
    Yea the hitting has come on as of late, but its the pitching that has to get them there. The young guys are great, but I just wanna punch Harang. How did he ever get the 1 spot?? AND we have a pitcher who is one of the best hitters on the team. Dusty Baker is worthless to. Weve got a good small ball team, with a little more speed, and he still sets up the order for HR. At least the Central is tight this year. It wasnt long into last year when it just didnt matter anymore.
    I honestly dont know why anyone ever picked up Dusty Baker. He is terrible, and extremely shady to boot. He undercuts the spirit of the game with cheap shots left and right. Reds have a good farm system, but front office needs to go.

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    Rasmus has good talent. Too many people are quick to judge rookies in their first 40 games but I can see him and Shafer from ATL putting up some good web gems and numbers over the next decade.

    How about franklin this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryManback View Post
    Yea the hitting has come on as of late, but its the pitching that has to get them there. The young guys are great, but I just wanna punch Harang. How did he ever get the 1 spot?? AND we have a pitcher who is one of the best hitters on the team. Dusty Baker is worthless to. Weve got a good small ball team, with a little more speed, and he still sets up the order for HR. At least the Central is tight this year. It wasnt long into last year when it just didnt matter anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Rasmus has good talent. Too many people are quick to judge rookies in their first 40 games but I can see him and Shafer from ATL putting up some good web gems and numbers over the next decade.

    How about franklin this year?
    He was hot at first when he took that roll last year. Then crashed, I hope he hold on through the season. I like franklin because he isn't flashy, doesn't have astronomical speed, just good solid pitching, with plenty of movement.

    What about Piniero... he gets a damn ground ball EVERY PITCH... the last game was simply amazing. Finished them off in 2 hours 5 minutes. He has drastically changed his game from his mediocre last year.
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    Pineiro has learned how to pitch. He used to try and fireball everything in his seattle days. Lohse is another starter that is underrated. I don't see the Cards slowing up this year if Carpenter can just look at every pitch when he bats and their bullpen stay solid. El Hombre for MVP this year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Pineiro has learned how to pitch. He used to try and fireball everything in his seattle days. Lohse is another starter that is underrated. I don't see the Cards slowing up this year if Carpenter can just look at every pitch when he bats and their bullpen stay solid. El Hombre for MVP this year!
    El Hombre was rated Best player in the MLB... CRAZY. Lohse has turned around his mediocre career to be a early to middle of the lineup starter... Dave Duncan was good for him... How about Waino turning it around, night and day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Oh man... what a great series. Cards vs. Cubs.

    **Singing**
    How sweet it is to be swept by the cards!

    Man, Piniero, Waino and Carp were ON FIRE! Seeing a spark in these pitchers is AMAZING... of course not to leave out good old El' Hombre having a knack for going the long ball in the first inning!

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    It IS great to see Waino pitching like he is. He's been my favorite non-pujols player since 2006 when he showed nerves and mental toughness of steel. Not a coincidence that he gives mucho credit to carpenter. Regarding this, prior to his stellar performance saturday he and carpenter had a discussion/video viewing session so carp could give some suggestions. The results speak for themselves. Moreover, carp most recently met with wellemeyer to help him out - next start NO RUNS 6 innings, fastball hitting 94!

    Chris Carpenter's importance to the Cardinals success cannot be underestimated.
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    Oh man... did anyone see those moon shots last night by Pujols? Grand Slam number 2 for the year. INSANE... you just cannot pitch to that guy, he is way to dangerous... then another dinger later.

    Great time to be taking in the phenom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Oh man... did anyone see those moon shots last night by Pujols? Grand Slam number 2 for the year. INSANE... you just cannot pitch to that guy, he is way to dangerous... then another dinger later.

    Great time to be taking in the phenom.

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