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    Reds fan here. Yea I know, we suck. But if it wasn't for Pujols id hate the Cards. But you all will probably win the Central. Anyone but the Cubs.



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    F*ck you, DA, you and your f*cking Cards!

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    Originally Posted by HarryManback View Post
    Reds fan here. Yea I know, we suck. But if it wasn't for Pujols id hate the Cards. But you all will probably win the Central. Anyone but the Cubs.
    Reds are a hard hitting team this year. I wouldnt discount them yet. I would like to win the central, but the brew crew has to hit a skid. The cubs wont win the central this year for sure. There are to many type A personalities on that team to be lead by Lou Pinella. Milton Bradley was probably the worst pickup they have had in a long time.

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    Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    F*ck you, DA, you and your f*cking Cards!
    I am sorry IL... I cannot hear you over my two handfuls of championship rings that are just clanking while I walk. I ain't my fault the last cubbies championship was before the flight of man!

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    Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Reds are a hard hitting team this year. I wouldnt discount them yet. I would like to win the central, but the brew crew has to hit a skid. The cubs wont with the central this year for sure. There are to many type A personalities on that team to be lead by Lou Pinella. Milton Bradley was probably the worst pickup they have had in a long time.

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    I hate that we let Mark DeRosa go... what a dumb ass mistake! K. Wood should have stayed as well; although, I don't think a closer role is right for him. Too bad him and Prior could not stay healthy.

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    Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    I hate that we let Mark DeRosa go... what a dumb ass mistake! K. Wood should have stayed as well; although, I don't think a closer role is right for him. Too bad him and Prior could not stay healthy.
    Its funny, cause DeRosa is on the market again... probably one of your worst mistakes! I wish the cards would pick him up, since we are a black hole on 3rd... with Glaus a question mark, and the youth not producing there, there needs to be some big epiphany. I personally would like to see last years draft Brett Wallace (The Walrus) get a chance, he produces at the bat, his glove is something to be desired, but put someone with range like Ankiel behind him and he is golden, since I think Rasmus should stay our perm CF.

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    Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    I hate that we let Mark DeRosa go... what a dumb ass mistake! K. Wood should have stayed as well; although, I don't think a closer role is right for him. Too bad him and Prior could not stay healthy.
    D. Rose was studly last year (no homo). With all that stress of selling the team, they were bound to make some mistakes in the offseason. I think they should have dealt Zambrano earlier in his career. Too overrated IMO.
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    Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Its funny, cause DeRosa is on the market again... probably one of your worst mistakes! I wish the cards would pick him up, since we are a black hole on 3rd... with Glaus a question mark, and the youth not producing there, there needs to be some big epiphany. I personally would like to see last years draft Brett Wallace (The Walrus) get a chance, he produces at the bat, his glove is something to be desired, but put someone with range like Ankiel behind him and he is golden, since I think Rasmus should stay our perm CF.

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    Ankiel's arm is too valuable to leave him in Left. He is actually one of my favorite players, even if he did juice.
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    Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    D. Rose was studly last year (no homo). With all that stress of selling the team, they were bound to make some mistakes in the offseason. I think they should have dealt Zambrano earlier in his career. Too overrated IMO.
    Agreed, Big Z can hit for a pitcher, but he doesn't have all the talent people keep screaming about... he can throw hard, but movement isn't there like it should be.

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    Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Ankiel's arm is too valuable to leave him in Left. He is actually one of my favorite players, even if he did juice.
    Rasmus has a hell of an arm as well, and good range and speed, really they are interchangable. I honestly don't care which one goes where, but I think Rasmus is doing to well in that spot to move him, he is a Jim Edmonds a decade ago with an evolving bat.

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    Yea the hitting has come on as of late, but its the pitching that has to get them there. The young guys are great, but I just wanna punch Harang. How did he ever get the 1 spot?? AND we have a pitcher who is one of the best hitters on the team. Dusty Baker is worthless to. Weve got a good small ball team, with a little more speed, and he still sets up the order for HR. At least the Central is tight this year. It wasnt long into last year when it just didnt matter anymore.

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    Originally Posted by HarryManback View Post
    Yea the hitting has come on as of late, but its the pitching that has to get them there. The young guys are great, but I just wanna punch Harang. How did he ever get the 1 spot?? AND we have a pitcher who is one of the best hitters on the team. Dusty Baker is worthless to. Weve got a good small ball team, with a little more speed, and he still sets up the order for HR. At least the Central is tight this year. It wasnt long into last year when it just didnt matter anymore.
    I honestly dont know why anyone ever picked up Dusty Baker. He is terrible, and extremely shady to boot. He undercuts the spirit of the game with cheap shots left and right. Reds have a good farm system, but front office needs to go.

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    Rasmus has good talent. Too many people are quick to judge rookies in their first 40 games but I can see him and Shafer from ATL putting up some good web gems and numbers over the next decade.

    How about franklin this year?
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    Originally Posted by HarryManback View Post
    Yea the hitting has come on as of late, but its the pitching that has to get them there. The young guys are great, but I just wanna punch Harang. How did he ever get the 1 spot?? AND we have a pitcher who is one of the best hitters on the team. Dusty Baker is worthless to. Weve got a good small ball team, with a little more speed, and he still sets up the order for HR. At least the Central is tight this year. It wasnt long into last year when it just didnt matter anymore.
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    Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Rasmus has good talent. Too many people are quick to judge rookies in their first 40 games but I can see him and Shafer from ATL putting up some good web gems and numbers over the next decade.

    How about franklin this year?
    He was hot at first when he took that roll last year. Then crashed, I hope he hold on through the season. I like franklin because he isn't flashy, doesn't have astronomical speed, just good solid pitching, with plenty of movement.

    What about Piniero... he gets a damn ground ball EVERY PITCH... the last game was simply amazing. Finished them off in 2 hours 5 minutes. He has drastically changed his game from his mediocre last year.
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    Pineiro has learned how to pitch. He used to try and fireball everything in his seattle days. Lohse is another starter that is underrated. I don't see the Cards slowing up this year if Carpenter can just look at every pitch when he bats and their bullpen stay solid. El Hombre for MVP this year!
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    Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Pineiro has learned how to pitch. He used to try and fireball everything in his seattle days. Lohse is another starter that is underrated. I don't see the Cards slowing up this year if Carpenter can just look at every pitch when he bats and their bullpen stay solid. El Hombre for MVP this year!
    El Hombre was rated Best player in the MLB... CRAZY. Lohse has turned around his mediocre career to be a early to middle of the lineup starter... Dave Duncan was good for him... How about Waino turning it around, night and day.
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    Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Oh man... what a great series. Cards vs. Cubs.

    **Singing**
    How sweet it is to be swept by the cards!

    Man, Piniero, Waino and Carp were ON FIRE! Seeing a spark in these pitchers is AMAZING... of course not to leave out good old El' Hombre having a knack for going the long ball in the first inning!

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    Phenomenal Indeed. I swear when carpenter is healthy the whole team takes on a different persona. Ever notice whenever carp has been out how surly and difficult la russa is in the post game interview - sometimes regardless of if we win or not? Have you seen him since we got carp back? He's smile and made jokes for the love of god! I didn't know he had teeth!

    It IS great to see Waino pitching like he is. He's been my favorite non-pujols player since 2006 when he showed nerves and mental toughness of steel. Not a coincidence that he gives mucho credit to carpenter. Regarding this, prior to his stellar performance saturday he and carpenter had a discussion/video viewing session so carp could give some suggestions. The results speak for themselves. Moreover, carp most recently met with wellemeyer to help him out - next start NO RUNS 6 innings, fastball hitting 94!

    Chris Carpenter's importance to the Cardinals success cannot be underestimated.

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    Oh man... did anyone see those moon shots last night by Pujols? Grand Slam number 2 for the year. INSANE... you just cannot pitch to that guy, he is way to dangerous... then another dinger later.

    Great time to be taking in the phenom.

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    Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Oh man... did anyone see those moon shots last night by Pujols? Grand Slam number 2 for the year. INSANE... you just cannot pitch to that guy, he is way to dangerous... then another dinger later.

    Great time to be taking in the phenom.

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