- 04-21-2009, 09:01 AM
Kariya and Johnson wouldn't have been the make or break, we just have a young team. Playoff hockey is completely different that season hockey. I love how much they have already accomplished, I am looking to future seasons.
Although attacking on baseball players is just incessant. Baseball is a much more precise game, hence a reason an impinged nerve will totally kill your game. Pujols has been playing 8 years injured, and he doesn't cry. Every sport has their vagina's. As for whoever called it boring... that is your opinion.. there is a reason it is the biggest sport in the US.
AdamsThe Historic PES Legend
- 04-21-2009, 09:19 AM
Maybe not the regular season, but I think in this series that Kariya and Johnson would be the make or break, especially in the last 3 games! We'll just have to agree to disagree.
As far as baseball goes, sorry I was on a little of a rant because I just asked my buddy if he wanted to go to the game for free tonight and he declined because the Cardinal/Mets game is on tonight!?!? What an ass! I share a 40 game pack with another couple for the cardinal games. I am and have always been a huge Baseball/Cardinals fan. I have always looked forward to preseason and opening day. However, ever since I became a hockey fan. I don't find myself looking forward to preseason baseball and opening day, because hockey is usually still going on. For me, when I go to the first 2 or 3 games, my head isn't in the game because it is soo slow in comparison to hockey. I worded it wrong in saying it was boring, because it is in no way boring. Go Blues!!! then after GO CARDS!!!
by the way, what do you think of Carpenter maybe being on the DL again!?
- 04-21-2009, 09:29 AM
my boring comment was to someone previous in the thread, my fault for not pointing that out actually. I feel ya on that though, when baseball is starting up, hockey is in the heat. I feel the same way at the end of the baseball season, and football kicks off. When you are pushing for playoffs, its hard to look at anything else.
Carpenter is a great player, problem is he does not know his own limitations. He is a pitcher for Gods sakes.. he shouldnt be swinging for the rafters like that and tearing muscles off his rib cage. He is a world class player, and only hope one of these days he can return to his old self. But I am loving watching the rookies take over. I love watching rookies period.
I think Kariya and Johnson would have brought some much needed veteran experience...but this team pushed to the playoffs, then got stuck looking around because it is a whole different world. If they got here, they should be able to play through. But Oshie just isnt bringing his stuff, crombeen is looking lost, and taking useless penalties. Now I just home Cam gets more play time tonight and puts a hurt on them, like we did first period sunday.
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04-21-2009, 09:30 AM
04-21-2009, 10:41 AM
When metallica was here a couple months ago. My wife hooked me up with tickets and I was bumping elbows with jansen and stasny. Jansen was pretty cool. We talked for a while between sets!! Fun night!
04-21-2009, 11:26 AM
I would also disagree slightly with the notion that Baseball is much more precise: it takes as much skill to glove a 107MPH slap-shot as it does to hit a 98MPH fastball; it takes as much [or more] skill and precision to stickhandle through the slot and then roof a wrister as it does to throw a perfect curveball. Aside from those areas - hitting and pitching - I really cannot see the precision in the Baseball!
Hockey players engage in each and every activity any other sport does, and they do it traveling twice as fast - on skates.
04-21-2009, 11:33 AM
04-21-2009, 11:35 AM
I have been on the other end of trying to hit that mid 90's fastball, and that was in the cages... to try to say it is easier to use a bat to connect with a ball, than it is to place your glove in front of a puck is comparing apples to oranges.
I have been on the receiving end of both in my youth, and honestly say that connecting on that fast of a pitch with an extension of your limbs take more precision. Now does that take anything away from hockey, not in the least... different sports, different strengths.
You cannot see the precision, because it is not your sport, or you have not played. I could still play hockey with a fractured wrist, taped and cortisoned to hell... but I couldn't put the bat on a ball if I tried.
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04-21-2009, 11:37 AM
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04-21-2009, 11:47 AM
The Historic PES Legend
04-21-2009, 11:48 AM
04-21-2009, 11:51 AM
And in order to place oneself in front of a puck, the goalie must use proper positioning gauging the progress, position, speed and possible shot capabilities of 1-5 individuals; a batter is static. A goalie must then decide whom is shooting, and react with the whole body; a batter must do the same, to a much lesser degree! A goalie may be screened, contacted and shoved; a batter is not. I agree, apples v., oranges.I have been on the receiving end of both in my youth, and honestly say that connecting on that fast of a pitch with an extension of your limbs take more precision. Now does that take anything away from hockey, not in the least... different sports, different strengths.
Though not my favorite sport, I played. My sister was highly involved in softball as well, with my Father being the Coach of a few provincial teams [different animals, I know]. I respect your position, but please do not assume I feel Hockey takes more precision because I know nothing about Baseball; I am sure you would not like the same treatment.You cannot see the precision, because it is not your sport, or you have not played. I could still play hockey with a fractured wrist, taped and cortisoned to hell... but I couldn't put the bat on a ball if I tried.
I feel Hockey takes more precision, because it does. How you can compare Brodeur facing a streaking A. Ovechkin or Sidney Crosby, with Pujols at the plate facing a Sabathia is beyond me. No comparison, due to the myriad of factors that a hockey player must consider, that baseball players do not. (Unless the catcher is now allowed to bodycheck the hitter.)
04-21-2009, 11:55 AM
And Lacrosse takes more precision and skill than either! [I believe you were saying that!]
04-21-2009, 11:59 AM
A thrown ball, and that is all it is? No speed changes, no curving, no dipping, no rising? The timing required, is not a factor? The timing for stealing, or a hit and run?
Some of the best hockey players are just brute force. (And dont take this as me saying that is a bad thing)
I wasn't even trying to argue which is better, i simply stated why a baseball player is taken out when an injury occurs... but the defensiveness reared its ugly head.
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04-21-2009, 12:00 PM
04-21-2009, 12:06 PM
For example, a pitcher must consider body positioning, the individual at the plate, arm mechanics, finger positioning and the type of pitch thrown, and; the batter, in turn, must consider all of these things, in addition to the count, the status of the game and whom is in what field - very precise, I agree. However, the batter need not consider all of these factors in addition to being hit; and the pitcher need not consider all of these factors in addition to being screened. To compare apples v., apples, the opposing team would be able to screen the pitcher, and the catcher could check the batter.
Well, I wasn't intending to offend your delicate sensibilities you schoolgirl!I wasn't even trying to argue which is better, i simply stated why a baseball player is taken out when an injury occurs... but the defensiveness reared its ugly head.
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04-21-2009, 01:00 PM
No Paul Kariya will make tonight's game kind of difficult though -- but good luck to all ye Blues fans.
Huge Pens, Pirates (shut up), and Steelers fan but I do like the Blues.. I would love to see them come back and beat the **** out of Vancouver (although I have no problem with that team either, it would just be epic).
Also, I'm a huge non-resident Blue Jackets fan right now as well!
04-21-2009, 01:04 PM
04-21-2009, 01:16 PM
Also, the officiating was terrible IMO. There were several calls that were ignored -- how about Hartnell throwing his stick and getting away with it? what the **** was that? -- along with several calls that should've never been made (on both sides), so hopefully the officiating is a little better too.
I'll tell you what, the constant booing about absolutely everything really started to piss me off towards the end of the game. If you want to boo Crosby that's one thing (I don't like it but what can we do), but I couldn't believe they booed Orpik after Briere sticked him in the face and he was bleeding all over the place. I hate the Flyers with a passion but I wouldn't boo Timonen if he was leaving the ice with a face full of blood.
04-21-2009, 01:18 PM
I feel we just had a lapse of concentration, and that we will close out the series with two straight wins. In our first two, we looked masterful.
In terms of Hartnell, he is an unpredictable and idiotic hockey player who plays too far over the edge to be of use. He threw his glove in the same fashion in a game earlier this year.
04-21-2009, 02:12 PM
Hawks vs Flames series is heating up. LOL refs letting Calgary get away with all kinds of **** and it started to boil over last night.
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02-20-2010, 08:19 AM
Pens fan since 1984...le magnifique!
02-21-2010, 10:28 PM
not a huge NHL fan but after watching the US vs Canada a minute ago I think I am going to try and watch it again. I have never enjoyed watching hockey games on tv but I have always loved going to see them live. I will give the NHL on tv another shot now.
04-02-2010, 08:51 PM
pens fan here!
hoping for a win tomorrow afternoon
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Coyotes! Hooowwwwwlllllll!!! lol Cant wait for the white out.
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I'm stoked for the playoffs.
I just hope we hold on to the division
oh and finally Leopold cashes in. today's game was good.
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