SNS Releases Bulbine Caps (Prolensis)!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Would It be ok to use bulbine for 4 weeks and then go on an AI for 8? Thus maximizing estrogen suppression time?

    I'm aware of the guidelines to keep AI use to 8 weeks generally speaking with a 4 week break. Wondering if this is product specific, or if it is dangerous to keep estrogen suppressed for long periods of time?

    Hope this makes sense lol
    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Erase or erase pro

    So something like bulbine+daa 4 weeks
    Then erase for 8 so looking at ~12 weeks of suppression.. Idk, I just look n feel like a million bucks on AI's so I'm trying to figure out the safest way to maximize ON time throughout the year..
    I really dont recommend messing w/ your hormones for extended period of time

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Nice. So long as it's not the same active ingredient under a different brand, obviously ?
    The degree of estrogen control is more important than the ingredient being used. Bulbine has a mild effect on estrogen and thus you should be fine. If your joints hurt or your libido falters, you know it's time to ease up a bit.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by jp88 View Post
    Just received my SNS bulbine. I know the data shows that dosing can be tricky. I am 42 6'1 190, is the 2 caps a day recomended dose right for me? Also, can this be taken with DAA? or is their mechanism of action the same which could lead to some sort of overstimulation?
    Hmm, you're in a little grey area. I would err on the side of caution and do the following: 1 cap per day on weekdays, 2 caps per day on weekends (split AM and PM doses).

    And this can certainly be taken with DAA!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by jp88 View Post
    Just received my SNS bulbine. I know the data shows that dosing can be tricky. I am 42 6'1 190, is the 2 caps a day recomended dose right for me? Also, can this be taken with DAA? or is their mechanism of action the same which could lead to some sort of overstimulation?
    Start with 1 dose .. Yea follow coop idea

    And hell yea stack it with DAA .. I ran out my DAA .. So I'm just using it solo

  5. How about bulbine and zma

    or

    bulbine and Testabolan v2 (or similar 3,4 div type product)
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    How about bulbine and zma

    or

    bulbine and Testabolan v2 (or similar 3,4 div type product)
    You could stack it with either of those products if you'd like. It's quite a versatile ingredient.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    How about bulbine and zma

    or

    bulbine and Testabolan v2 (or similar 3,4 div type product)
    Bulbine + testabolan v2 is a great idea actually. Go with that

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Bulbine + testabolan v2 is a great idea actually. Go with that
    Finally! A good idea haha. Lol I will def set Aside a month to run that!

  9. Yea that'd be a sick stack .. I have like 1.5bottles of testabolan V2 .. If any1 needs them holla .. Will sell both for $37shipped

  10. Anyone started taking it yet? Debating grabbin some for my upcoming pct but with tropinol not living up to the hype, wondering how this will fare using a better extract
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  11. I'm also surprised this product has more or less 0 feedback by actual buyers.

    SNS could sponsor 1 bottle to an US member of this forum willing to do pre and post bloodwork.

    I've read on one merchant's site one Bulbine selling company did bloodwork with their lower quality bulbine extract and after 14 days testosterone level were up only by 35% which is nowhere near 247% increase from 1 animal study.

    I do want to try SNS Bulbine in few weeks but would be nice to have a review by an actual buyer doing pre and post bloodwork.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by ahh123
    I'm also surprised this product has more or less 0 feedback by actual buyers.

    SNS could sponsor 1 bottle to an US member of this forum willing to do pre and post bloodwork.

    I've read on one merchant's site one Bulbine selling company did bloodwork with their lower quality bulbine extract and after 14 days testosterone level were up only by 35% which is nowhere near 247% increase from 1 animal study.

    I do want to try SNS Bulbine in few weeks but would be nice to have a review by an actual buyer doing pre and post bloodwork.
    I'd take a 35% bump all day every day..

  13. Quote Originally Posted by ahh123
    I'm also surprised this product has more or less 0 feedback by actual buyers.

    SNS could sponsor 1 bottle to an US member of this forum willing to do pre and post bloodwork.

    I've read on one merchant's site one Bulbine selling company did bloodwork with their lower quality bulbine extract and after 14 days testosterone level were up only by 35% which is nowhere near 247% increase from 1 animal study.

    I do want to try SNS Bulbine in few weeks but would be nice to have a review by an actual buyer doing pre and post bloodwork.
    Which brand was it?I only know of one brand not to use Prolensis..though I doubt it makes any difference

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Which brand was it?I only know of one brand not to use Prolensis..though I doubt it makes any difference
    Well, using a different extract makes the proper human dose a mystery as we have essentially no data to go off of. Knowing that the dose-response curve of bulbine is sensitive, I would stick with prolensis since we know how it should be dosed .

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Well, using a different extract makes the proper human dose a mystery as we have essentially no data to go off of. Knowing that the dose-response curve of bulbine is sensitive, I would stick with prolensis since we know how it should be dosed .
    Prolensis only has a rough estimate on dosing but it definitely is not without fault

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  16. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Well, using a different extract makes the proper human dose a mystery as we have essentially no data to go off of. Knowing that the dose-response curve of bulbine is sensitive, I would stick with prolensis since we know how it should be dosed .
    I'm thinking same thing - I do want to try your product cause I see potential in this product.

    Even with DAA that should lift testosterone by 42% I did see positive effects just unfortunately also got diarrhea in 2h after taking even half a dose.

    Now just waiting for some buyer's feedbacks or logs for SNS Bulbine since there are none anywhere online.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    I'm thinking same thing - I do want to try your product cause I see potential in this product.

    Even with DAA that should lift testosterone by 42% I did see positive effects just unfortunately also got diarrhea in 2h after taking even half a dose.

    Now just waiting for some buyer's feedbacks or logs for SNS Bulbine since there are none anywhere online.
    Yeah, it may be a little while. I remember with Driven Sports' new Activate Xtreme it took months for the first reviews to pop up.

    What DAA did you use? if it was bulk form, the low solubility would be what caused the GI issues.

  18. i really want to grab a bunch of this stuff.....i recommend everyone to stack it was daa and watch out....hopefully you have a girlfriend or wife you live with, but when i took phytoserms and daa i leaned out and my upper body seemed to look thicker as well...but i felt great on the stack
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti
    i really want to grab a bunch of this stuff.....i recommend everyone to stack it was daa and watch out....hopefully you have a girlfriend or wife you live with, but when i took phytoserms and daa i leaned out and my upper body seemed to look thicker as well...but i felt great on the stack
    I'll be giving it a go in a few months, (probably around September, but that doesn't really help much right now. Lol

    Considering retailers are just getting it up, I expect that it is a month until the reviews start popping up.
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  20. ..really strange the daosage...
    if 50 mg/kg is optimal.... HOW a 350mg cap can be good for a 70 kg man???
    a 10 kg man (someone seen a man weighting 10 kg??) needs 500mg
    a 50 kg man = 2,5 grams ... something is wrong ....

  21. Quote Originally Posted by pectus View Post
    ..really strange the daosage...
    if 50 mg/kg is optimal.... HOW a 350mg cap can be good for a 70 kg man???
    a 10 kg man (someone seen a man weighting 10 kg??) needs 500mg
    a 50 kg man = 2,5 grams ... something is wrong ....
    HED's are by body surface area, not weight.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by pectus
    ..really strange the daosage...
    if 50 mg/kg is optimal.... HOW a 350mg cap can be good for a 70 kg man???
    a 10 kg man (someone seen a man weighting 10 kg??) needs 500mg
    a 50 kg man = 2,5 grams ... something is wrong ....
    You are looking at the rat studies right? Rats actually need more active per kg.. the conversion I can't remember. I'm sure a Rep will step in.. but trust me, bulbine works. Under 200lbs two caps per day, over 200lbs 3 caps. I'm 270 and 3 caps is crazy!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by pectus
    ..really strange the daosage...
    if 50 mg/kg is optimal.... HOW a 350mg cap can be good for a 70 kg man???
    a 10 kg man (someone seen a man weighting 10 kg??) needs 500mg
    a 50 kg man = 2,5 grams ... something is wrong ....
    Animal to human dosing is not 1:1
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Evan666 View Post
    You are looking at the rat studies right? Rats actually need more active per kg.. the conversion I can't remember. I'm sure a Rep will step in.. but trust me, bulbine works. Under 200lbs two caps per day, over 200lbs 3 caps. I'm 270 and 3 caps is crazy!
    Well, I'd recommend 1 cap a day at under 200 lbs and 2 caps at over. That would be for a truly accurate HED that does not risk overshooting the optimal dose. That said, the optimal dose likely lies between 50mg and 100mg/kg in rats, so many other bulbine products have been "off" in their suggestions.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Well, I'd recommend 1 cap a day at under 200 lbs and 2 caps at over. That would be for a truly accurate HED that does not risk overshooting the optimal dose. That said, the optimal dose likely lies between 50mg and 100mg/kg in rats, so many other bulbine products have been "off" in their suggestions.
    Think I should back off to two caps Coop?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by antihero

    Animal to human dosing is not 1:1
    Yeah isn't it like 10:1 or something?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Evan666 View Post
    Yeah isn't it like 10:1 or something?
    Closer to 1:6.2, but only if accounting for a 140lb male.

    Anyway, if 3 caps has your libido up, then stick with 3. If your libido drops, you're using too much (the study on rats noted libido as the prime indicator of the excessive dose).

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Evan666 View Post
    You are looking at the rat studies right? Rats actually need more active per kg.. the conversion I can't remember. I'm sure a Rep will step in.. but trust me, bulbine works. Under 200lbs two caps per day, over 200lbs 3 caps. I'm 270 and 3 caps is crazy!
    How fast you started seeing libido boost starting to really kick in?

    I'm at day 4 and not feeling any effects so far.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Closer to 1:6.2, but only if accounting for a 140lb male.

    Anyway, if 3 caps has your libido up, then stick with 3. If your libido drops, you're using too much (the study on rats noted libido as the prime indicator of the excessive dose).
    2 questions.

    1) Looks like for 170lbs man like myself effective dose would be around 1.5caps/day would it make sense to take one day 1 cap and next day 2 caps?

    Like Monday 1 cap, Tuesday 2 caps, Wednesday 1 cap, Thursday 2 caps...


    2) Should SNS Bulbine be cycled 5 days on, 2 days off like with Tongkat Ali?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    2 questions.

    1) Looks like for 170lbs man like myself effective dose would be around 1.5caps/day would it make sense to take one day 1 cap and next day 2 caps?

    Like Monday 1 cap, Tuesday 2 caps, Wednesday 1 cap, Thursday 2 caps...


    2) Should SNS Bulbine be cycled 5 days on, 2 days off like with Tongkat Ali?
    1. You can do that, but I'd start with 1 cap for your first week to see how things go.

    2. Yes. If you choose to do this, then dose the bulbine 2-1-2-1-2, M-Fri.
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