PLCAR 500 L-Carnitine Question
- 08-18-2011, 12:52 AM
- 08-18-2011, 01:17 AM
08-18-2011, 03:09 AM
this, Propionyl-l-carnitine is also known as Glycine Propionyl-L-Carnitine HCl. The reason I ask is because if you Google "Propionyl-L-Carnitine," the products that come up from major brands, such as NOW, Jarrow Formulas and others, are all GPLC L-Carnitine, which, according to the label, contain Glycine Propionyl-L-Carnitine HCL, Propionyl-L-Carnitine and Glycine, but none of them have just Propionyl-L-Carnitine. I wonder why? I thought maybe there is a mistake on PLCAR 500's label or something.
08-18-2011, 05:14 AM
I have a question: whats the difference? And that includes L-Carnitine. Why is PLCAR different?
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08-18-2011, 01:24 PM
08-18-2011, 04:29 PM
08-18-2011, 07:54 PM
08-18-2011, 11:05 PM
Clout by MAN contains ALCAR, High Voltage Body Octane also by MAN, contains LCLT. Interesting. I wonder why they have not included PLCAR. Anyway, how would you recommend using and dosing ALCAR, PLCAR and LCLT for maximum benefits? Thanks.
08-19-2011, 01:20 AM
PLCAR is the most expensive form (along with GPLC). That's why very few companies include it in a formula...because it won't sell well since the consumer doesn't wanna pay so much. SNS offers PLCAR at a very low price, but we can only make it a one run item . With your stack, I would simply take 2g ALCAR and 2g PLCAR preworkout on training days and with breakfast on off days. LCLT is best taken postworkout or pre-cardio.
08-19-2011, 04:23 PM
Also, CLOUT by MAN recommends taking two servings of CLOUT, which delivers 3g of ALCAR. So what are the maximum safe dosages for ALCAR and PLCAR? Have you taken more than 2g? Have you noticed any difference?
08-20-2011, 12:05 AM
08-20-2011, 02:00 PM
08-20-2011, 04:09 PM
08-21-2011, 11:24 AM
09-03-2011, 10:28 AM
I just finished 500 grams of Bulk ALCAR. Loved the focus and energy on the product. Seemed to wear off towards the end. Not sure if I was getting de-sensitized to it or just not noticing it as much.Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
Just started using l-carnitine l- tartrate....... Not really noticing anything on it at all. Big disappointment! Taking it with n-rala. Not noticing anything there either. 2 days ago I dosed some citriline malate pre- workout.....while running on the treadmill, I noticed my breath was as though I was walking.....amazing! I had to increase the speed to feel anything.
I like supps that provide definite noticeable benefits not just some science study benefits. As of now, LCLT and N-rala are useless to me.
Alcar and Citrilline Mallate are amazing. Have PLCR on the shelf to be used soon as well as Geranium extract.
Strongly recommend ALCAR at 4-5 grams per day.
Anyone get anything from LCLT?
09-03-2011, 01:32 PM
Serious Nutrition Solutions rep
09-05-2011, 12:47 AM
Sorry, I do not like supps I do not feel and would not know if they are working or not without some noticeable feeling. I believe most are like me as well. Tried a full cap of Geranium today.....noticed a slight increase in energy and focus. Nothing incredible though.Originally Posted by kingjameskjf
Looking forward to trying PLACAR. Tomorrow I think.
09-06-2011, 12:25 PM
Tartrate, naturally found in some foods, acts to stabilize l-carnitine. l-Carnitine is a dipeptide found in great abundance in the body, especially the heart and skeletal muscle. It maintains efficient fat utilization by transporting long-chain fatty acids into the mitochondria where they can be broken down by a process called beta oxidation (fat metabolism) to produce energy. A recent study reported that oral l-carnitine supplementation in healthy subjects promotes optimal long-chain fatty acid oxidation. Additionally, l-carnitine helps to clear short and medium chain fatty acids from the mitochondria that would otherwise accumulate over time. This helps to keep metabolic processes running smoothly and efficiently. l-Carnitine also promotes cardiovascular health by supporting ventricular function and antioxidant activity. Additionally research also suggests a role for l-carnitine in supporting muscle repair after strenuous exercise. The results of one study indicated an attenuation of muscle strain and fatigue when exercisers were given l-carnitine-l-tartrate supplements prior to completing a high repetition strength regimen, suggesting l-carnitine may help reduce post-exercise recovery time.
Muller DM, Seim H, Kiess W, Loster H, Richter T. Effects of oral L-carnitine supplementation on in vivo long-chain fatty acid oxidation in healthy adults. Metabolism 2002; 51(11): 1389-91.
Sirtori CR, Calabresi L, Ferrara S, Pazzucconi F, Bondioli A, Baldassarre D, Birreci A, Koverech A. L-carnitine reduces plasma lipoprotein(a) levels in patients with hyper Lp(a). Nutr Metab Cardiovasc Dis 2000 Oct;10(5):247-51.
Gurlek A et al. The effects of L-carnitine treatment on left ventricular function and erythrocyte superoxide dismutase activity in patients with ischemic cardiomyopathy. Eur J Heart Fail 2000 Jun;2(2):189-93.
Volek JS, Kraemer WJ, Rubin MR, Gomez AL, Ratamess NA, Gaynor P. L-Carnitine L-tartrate supplementation favorably affects markers of recovery from exercise stress. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2002 Feb;282(2):E474-82.
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