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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero
    I appreciate your zealousness in attempting to find out.

    To be completely honest, we would love to create formal samples, but that's definitely something that will be further down the road. When you look into the packaging costs associated with it, it's astronomical compared to what you might think.

    But, how does this sound...The first tub I get in my hands, I will pack up a few single serving samples, and personally mail it to you. If it agrees with you and you like it, I will set you up with a pre-workout or study/work stack (featuring the Caffeine-Free Focus XT of course) to log. If not we still can still set you up with a logging opportunity.
    Sounds great to me! There are a lot of times when I start to drag toward the end of the day when I'm teaching; this might be a good way to experiment and test the product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidoious View Post
    Sounds great to me! There are a lot of times when I start to drag toward the end of the day when I'm teaching; this might be a good way to experiment and test the product.
    Lucky you lol. I will definitely be one of the first to lay cash on the caffeine-free FXT. FXT is a staple, man.

    But for late night studying, I like to avoid stims so I can sleep. I've been using a self made stack to somewhat resemble a stim-free version of FXT (just guessing):

    2g sns choline citrate (instead of fxt's bitartrate)
    2g alcar
    750mg l-tyrosine

    i know it's missing the other ingredients in fxt (like huperzine, dmae, vinpocetine, caffeine...), but it works like a 75% version of FXT for me.

    sometimes i'll add AMS Lucidrol to the above stack (still stim free).

    Lucidrol ingredients:

    Bacopa Monnieri = 500mg
    DMAE = 250mg (an ingredient in FXT)
    Rhodiola Rosea = 200mg
    BetaPEA = 196mg
    Picamilon = 100mg
    Hordenine = 40mg
    Piperine = 3mg

    One thing missing from any custom stack to resemble FXT is the obvious TASTY BEVERAGE TO DRINK. taking all these self-made caps and/or bulk powder form isn't that fun. SNS does an excellent job of masking the nasty nootropic taste.
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    SNS is a top of the line company with great products; unfortunately for me I've had a problem with one of them. Very anxious to try a caffeine-free version. How great would a coffee flavored version be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deh707

    Lucky you lol. I will definitely be one of the first to lay cash on the caffeine-free FXT. FXT is a staple, man.

    But for late night studying, I like to avoid stims so I can sleep. I've been using a self made stack to somewhat resemble a stim-free version of FXT (just guessing):

    2g sns choline citrate (instead of fxt's bitartrate)
    2g alcar
    750mg l-tyrosine

    i know it's missing the other ingredients in fxt (like huperzine, dmae, vinpocetine, caffeine...), but it works like a 75% version of FXT for me.

    sometimes i'll add AMS Lucidrol to the above stack (still stim free).

    Lucidrol ingredients:

    Bacopa Monnieri = 500mg
    DMAE = 250mg (an ingredient in FXT)
    Rhodiola Rosea = 200mg
    BetaPEA = 196mg
    Picamilon = 100mg
    Hordenine = 40mg
    Piperine = 3mg

    One thing missing from any custom stack to resemble FXT is the obvious TASTY BEVERAGE TO DRINK. taking all these self-made caps and/or bulk powder form isn't that fun. SNS does an excellent job of masking the nasty nootropic taste.
    The trick is flavoring into the ingredients. The ingredients naturally have a sour/tart taste, so we've worked strictly on flavors that can use the attribute instead of trying to mask it, especially in an effort to keep it sugar free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidoious
    SNS is a top of the line company with great products; unfortunately for me I've had a problem with one of them. Very anxious to try a caffeine-free version. How great would a coffee flavored version be?
    The caffeine free version will be an all new flavor, however it will not be coffee. Sorry.

    To be honest, I'm not sure how well a tart coffee flavor would even turn out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    The caffeine free version will be an all new flavor, however it will not be coffee. Sorry.

    To be honest, I'm not sure how well a tart coffee flavor would even turn out.
    I smell fruit punch!

    As for sidoious, which flavor of FXT is giving you bowl issues? I only have a slight-diarrhea and strong black/blue waste coloring with the black cherry flavor, and I hear it's the same case for black berry.

    I've tried all flavors except black berry, and only black cherry gives me this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deh707 View Post
    I smell fruit punch!

    As for sidoious, which flavor of FXT is giving you bowl issues? I only have a slight-diarrhea and strong black/blue waste coloring with the black cherry flavor, and I hear it's the same case for black berry.

    I've tried all flavors except black berry, and only black cherry gives me this problem.
    The coloring issue has been addressed, and we're seeing what can be done about it.

    You might be onto something with the Fruit Punch guess though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    The coloring issue has been addressed, and we're seeing what can be done about it.

    You might be onto something with the Fruit Punch guess though.
    I noticed the Fruit Punch flavor on the caffeine-free FXT label at the SNS twitter site

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    i hear it's just a promotional label, but Fruit Punch sounds nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deh707

    I smell fruit punch!

    As for sidoious, which flavor of FXT is giving you bowl issues? I only have a slight-diarrhea and strong black/blue waste coloring with the black cherry flavor, and I hear it's the same case for black berry.

    I've tried all flavors except black berry, and only black cherry gives me this problem.
    It was piņa colada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidoious

    It was piņa colada.
    I love piņa colada, just had some last night.

    Now I feel even worse for you...
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    How about rootbeer? hahaha
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    im digging the new labels .. great job .. and yup yup i love pina colada too .. havent had in a bit ..oh well next month
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    How about rootbeer? hahaha
    That would be a great flavor lol

    How about...

    Churro
    Rocky Road
    Krispy Kreme Glazed donut
    Coffee
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    Quote Originally Posted by deh707

    That would be a great flavor lol

    How about...

    Churro
    Rocky Road
    Krispy Kreme Glazed donut
    Coffee
    All of them except the coffee are most likely way to sweet for a sugar free product. And I don't think coffee would work because it's not tart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    All of them except the coffee are most likely way to sweet for a sugar free product. And I don't think coffee would work because it's not tart.
    Agreed, nootropics generally have tart flavors. I'd love to see a tart watermelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Agreed, nootropics generally have tart flavors. I'd love to see a tart watermelon
    Now this is a flavor I could get behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Agreed, nootropics generally have tart flavors. I'd love to see a tart watermelon
    That sounds interesting
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