Serious Nutrition Solutions DAA 3.12 Caps

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    (1) True, a lot of people subscribe to the idea of cycling... but I've never seen anything evince that philosophy of practice as valid, with special consideration to DAA.

    (2) From a company standpoint? You mean as in liability, or just as a sweeping policy? I would think the company policy should be based upon science substantiated and scrutinized data.

    (3) I see other people already beat me to it below... but yes, I have taken E-Pharm's TestForce2, and on the label it clearly spells out that continued administration can maintain serum T levels... which is what led me to posing my question (not argumentative, only inquisitive).

    Can you direct me toward any documented data throughout the entire spectrum of science that states that? We are still unsure how DVDs are copied and the mechanisms behind the physics of walking; so I'm just not sold that there is any type of irrefutable all-encompassing blanket statement that can include the whole hierarchy of hormone modulating supplements (especially DAA, which is so new the afterbirth is still being cleaned off).

    Again... only continuing the discussion, not claiming to have answers, only questions in light of the ones that are offered to me.
    1. You really dont have long term research either way on the subject of cycling DAA. Therefore, it only makes logical sense that if virtually every other hormonal influencing compound is cycled, why wouldnt this be too?

    No one says you have to, but yes we suggest it.

    2. No one said anything about any policy. I was referring to DAA. Directions for any product are on a case by case basis. We are not going to tell anyone to use any hormonal product non-stop without cycling it unless there is proof that it can be taken indefinately, and in this case, there isnt.

    3. They are entitled to label their product any way they see fit, as are we. Its not an argumentative stance at all. You, the customer can use ANY product the way you see fit, but we as a company have and will always suggest that customers use them in what we feel is the most responsible manner possible.

    I am honestly not sure what you are talking about. If you want to keep the conversation an intelligent one, I'm glad to have it. No one made a blanket statement. I explained my reasoning clearly above.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by sns8778 View Post
    I hadn't seen that. I respectfully disagree with it.

    If people choose to use DAA indefinately, that is their personal choice.
    Thats a fair statement....I totally agree with your label choices too.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    (1) True, a lot of people subscribe to the idea of cycling... but I've never seen anything evince that philosophy of practice as valid, with special consideration to DAA.
    What liteature concerning DAA have you seen past 12 days of usage? What have you personally seen concerning it's usage on several months? None I would imagine, so it is not a poor idea to cycle a product. I'll explain why later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    (2) From a company standpoint? You mean as in liability, or just as a sweeping policy? I would think the company policy should be based upon science substantiated and scrutinized data.
    Again, where is this science to prove otherwise? It's a sweeping policy for anything besides products like creatine, beta alanine etc to cycle products for effectiveness, no physican or anyone heavily versed in physiology would recommend otherwise. Look into other test booster products, I can almost say for certian they will have instructions to cycle as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    (3) I see other people already beat me to it below... but yes, I have taken E-Pharm's TestForce2, and on the label it clearly spells out that continued administration can maintain serum T levels... which is what led me to posing my question (not argumentative, only inquisitive).
    So you would trust the word of one company over the other when the company that's telling you to take their product forever hasn't shown you any science either? That makes no sense to me, of course a company will tell you to use something forever, it's business. I would rather listen to a company with it's consumers interest at mind, wouldn't you? We could have also gone that route, it'd be more money for us but we are trying to put your health in mind. I've also seen PA recommend people cycle DAA on a forum before.

    Continuously taking DAA for an indefinite amount of time will not result in a linear increase of serum testosterone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Can you direct me toward any documented data throughout the entire spectrum of science that states that? We are still unsure how DVDs are copied and the mechanisms behind the physics of walking; so I'm just not sold that there is any type of irrefutable all-encompassing blanket statement that can include the whole hierarchy of hormone modulating supplements (especially DAA, which is so new the afterbirth is still being cleaned off).

    Again... only continuing the discussion, not claiming to have answers, only questions in light of the ones that are offered to me.
    It is not a hard concept, it's called homeostasis, a quick google search will tell you a lot more, relating to lot sorts of documented data throughout the entire spectrum of science. To question homeostasis would be to question modern science, medicine, physiology, etc. Also, the physics behind walking is not a scientific mystery, it is well known. I'd imagine so is the concept of how dvds are copied, otherwise we wouldn't be able to copy them...but I'm not an expert on dvds.

    Company policies are this: company policies. We aren't health care providers, anything you do is at your own discretion (and risk), we are trying to help you realise your goals and stay safe at the same time. If you truly believe this somehow benefits us to sell less product than we can, I don't know what to tell you. I would be much more suspicious of a product that says you want use it indefinitely with 0 science to prove it's safety in a long term context.

    In the short term, upregulation of NMDAR will not induce neurotoxicity that people associate with DAA but I truly it would be a poor idea to listen to people selling you a product with 0 evidence behind it's long term effectiveness or full comprehension of it's mechanisms to NDMAR.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by sns8778 View Post
    (1) You really dont have long term research either way on the subject of cycling DAA.

    (2) I am honestly not sure what you are talking about.
    (1) Never said I did... I was only asking since neither of us have legitimate documentation.

    (2) I was hopeful we could at least keep things cordial for more than one post... am I that unclear with my statements, and have no skill in articulating my queries, you have 'no idea' what I'm talking about? I guess I just can't keep the conversation 'intelligent' as you mandated.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    It is not a hard concept, it's called homeostasis, a quick google search will tell you a lot more...
    I'm just too dumb I guess. Looks like my honest questions turned into a lot more than a Q&A session. Wow, unreal.

    I'm unsubscribing now before I revert to any long-winded insulting accusatory tones and reflect poorly on myself and my sponsor.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    (1) Never said I did... I was only asking since neither of us have legitimate documentation.

    (2) I was hopeful we could at least keep things cordial for more than one post. So, I'll exit this thread. Since, I'm so unclear with my statements, and have no skill in articulating my queries, you have 'no idea' what I'm talking about. I guess I just can't keep the conversation 'intelligent' as you mandated.
    1. I never said you or I neither one did. I was pointing out that such documentation doesnt exist, so it makes the most sense to go with a cautious approach. Especially since most every product available to boost test levels recomends cycling.

    2. I was being cordial. I never made any blanket approach statement as you were implying; I simply said that being that evidence doesnt exist either way, that it is better to be on the safe side. And with your DVD analogy, I really didnt understand what you meant or how that example had anything to do with DAA or this thread.

    Seemed like you were trying to be comical/somewhat argumentative, and I had no interest in an argument. However, am fine with discussion. Wasn't trying to be rude at all.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I'm just too dumb I guess. Looks like my honest questions turned into a lot more than a Q&A session. Wow, unreal.

    I'm unsubscribing now before I revert to any long-winded insulting accusatory tones and reflect poorly on myself and my sponsor.
    I dont think neither I nor him was being rude to you. He never called you dumb. He replied to a specific analogy that I didnt understand why you used, so likely, neither did he.

    You may have not meant to, but your tone seemed argumentative. There is nothing in the world wrong with questions, but you went into talking about how we as a company chose to label products without any real knowledge or factual basis. In the case of DAA, it was a really simple decision. Bascially almost everything hormonal is cycled, and absent evidence to or not to cycle DAA, it seems logical and on the safe side to cycle it.

    And I am not sure what there would be to be accusatory or insulting of. If you re-read your own post, you may find that your anaology was somewhat confusing and your posts had a negative tone to them. I actually answered you detail for detail and point for point, so I made every effort to answer your questions.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I'm just too dumb I guess. Looks like my honest questions turned into a lot more than a Q&A session. Wow, unreal.

    I'm unsubscribing now before I revert to any long-winded insulting accusatory tones and reflect poorly on myself and my sponsor.
    That is rich. I told you to google homeostasis, there is a library of literature larger than our hard drives on the topic, but you'd rather sit here on AM and go on about the most random things and go on about how upset you are that someone you tried to accuse of lacking scientific knowledge of upsetting your feelings. Where did I imply you were dumb? If you were inquisitive, you would have been eager to google what I said and do more reading, and you clearly aren't. What science have you presented? None. Why haven't I posted a specific paper? Because like I said, the works of homeostasis personally relating to neuroendocrine function has been documented for 20 years+, any trip to a local library or a medical school book store will highlight this in more detail than I could ever go into on the forums.

    It's quite "unreal" that you can come in here and accuse us of ignorance with nothing to prove otherwise and think because you just added in to your post at the end that you're asking for a discussion that it somehow masks any ulterior motive you have. If you're going to try to have a discussion laden with insults and jibes, don't be surprised when you recieve an answer not to your liking. I was perfectly on point but you seemingly ignored everything to play the victim.

    The fact that you posted in our TTA thread in this section really highlights it all, you're trying to achieve some sort of agenda for yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    What happens at month 6, to make it dangerous, that doesn't happen at month 1-5?

    Also, has the concept of homeostasis ever been proven legitimate with clinical findings based on blood profiles where DAA is concerned, or any other natural supplement taken for an extended duration?
    IF you had understandings of the mechanisms behind NMDAR, it would be quite apparent, but rather than do the research, you'd rather post rhetorical questions knowing full well no response ever given will be to your satisfaction. Homestasis plays a role in every process in your body, regardless of it being a "natural" supplement or not. To deny this is to deny medicine. What is the point of me saying any of this? Well I'd like to imagine you might actually get something out of it but I imagine I'm going to be proven wrong and you won't read a word I say without prejudice.

  9. read this post guys is very informative: the goal with DAA

  10. never used daa before but ill be starting it soon as part of my pct

  11. Quote Originally Posted by jjds2099 View Post
    never used daa before but ill be starting it soon as part of my pct
    its good stuff ..great addition to PCT

  12. Quote Originally Posted by GQNemesis View Post
    its good stuff ..great addition to PCT
    Indeed
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  13. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm stacking DAA with Titanium and Erase, and I'm having a great time....Strength and libido, unbelievable!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by ProOne View Post
    Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm stacking DAA with Titanium and Erase, and I'm having a great time....Strength and libido, unbelievable!
    Awesome!
    SNS - Serious Nutrition Solutions
    My advice is exclusively my own and may not correspond with the views of SNS
    Questions or concerns? → conny[@]seriousnutritionsolutions.com

  15. This stuff I amazing! I'm running Natadrol for 60 days (6 a day) ran 1 bottle of 3AD...once that ended took Perform (Annabolic Innovations) and D.A.A. and all I can say is that my strength is up, energy in the gym is up, and I'm sold!

    I know im taking a bunch of stuff but I've taken it before minus the D.A.A. and I know that i didn't have such a margin of extra performance the last time I ran it...and the last cycle I was on Xtren, and that says a lot!

    All gains zero sides! Where's the down side?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by glockgod View Post
    This stuff I amazing! I'm running Natadrol for 60 days (6 a day) ran 1 bottle of 3AD...once that ended took Perform (Annabolic Innovations) and D.A.A. and all I can say is that my strength is up, energy in the gym is up, and I'm sold!

    I know im taking a bunch of stuff but I've taken it before minus the D.A.A. and I know that i didn't have such a margin of extra performance the last time I ran it...and the last cycle I was on Xtren, and that says a lot!

    All gains zero sides! Where's the down side?
    Great feedback!
    SNS - Serious Nutrition Solutions
    My advice is exclusively my own and may not correspond with the views of SNS
    Questions or concerns? → conny[@]seriousnutritionsolutions.com

  17. Just thought I'd share this:

    I received my DAA Caps yesterday and decided to take 4caps before bed right away so I cracked open the bottle. Nice orange/black caps
    Now that was not my whole experience though As some of you may know I have been cutting for ~8weeks now and libido has been suffering on this cal deficit to say the least.

    To my surprise libido was raging the next morning and I had a hard time getting my little general down Could just be a coincidence though - time will tell with continued use, but I took it as a good sign

    Just thought I'd share my little experience

    //CC
    SNS - Serious Nutrition Solutions
    My advice is exclusively my own and may not correspond with the views of SNS
    Questions or concerns? → conny[@]seriousnutritionsolutions.com
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