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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ifeblood View Post
    Darn my auto correct... that was supposed to say "looking large"... really.
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    ^^ yeah what he said there 1ifeblood




    anywho..check out this meal, damn it was tasty..
    so I went to pick up some rice (got basmati this time instead of jasmine, plus some brown rice as well), came across these knorr pasta sides on sale that looked kinda interesting...nice choice of flavs, low in fat (1g per serving), thought i'd give it a shot
    glad I did - wonderful stuff..this one was the steak fajita flav pictured (2 servings worth); also had
    1/2c black beans
    1 serving brown rice triscuits
    5oz 96% beef
    1 red bell pepper
    1/2 TBS butter



    885cals, 130/50/17.5





    I swapped that meal today with my midday shake (so shake will come next)..typically, shake looks like this:
    2 scoops muscle milk+1 scoop isolate
    1c oats+1 slice cinnamon raisin Ezekiel toasted
    ~830cals, 95/70/22

    I usually prefer/rely on isolates during the day, and a blended protein at night for pre-bed shake, and i'm not necessarily a fan of muscle milk (tho really I am not necessarily a fan of any protein powder - they simply help meet cal/macro goals, a means to an end..no allegiance to any brand, and tbh I would rather rely on whole foods to meet my needs), BUT that said: I picked up some MM graham cracker flav the other day at my vitamin shoppe demo, they had it on blowout (discontinued I guess) for $12.50 a tub, figured wth can't go wrong with that
    OMG!!! stuff is ungawdly tasty, reminds me of the cake batter flav they used to have yrs back (don't know if they make it anymore but it's been that long since I had it)...wonderful taste, great texture - you can grab a spoon and just eat it right outta the tub
    so, needless to say, I really look forward to these shakes now
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    Muscle Milk is like desert...and the macro profile supports the notion

    I avoid that stuff like the plague, as the price is usually stupid to boot - but at 12.50 a tasty tub, you could sign me up! Graham sounds awesome.
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    stuff is crazy good hyde, seriously - and when you're eating structured like I am, and fairly clean at all times, you can pick your spots for that and it fits in just fine
    when I'm eating this many cals, altho again you can see overall the caloric/micro choices are pretty solid, there is room for things that I would normally not eat when cals are lower/trying to get lean & cut....the more cals you eat, the more room you have to play/less important overall % of clean micros becomes, to a point anyway; you start eating all crap all the time, without paying any attention to macro structure/carb sourcing etc, that's when things get messy


    in other news: the (original end) goal has almost been reached today -- can you say 6k cals mauled?
    I knew when breakfast started off @1050cals, and then the planned preWO shake was getting 70cal bump (from addtl 1/2 scoop glycomaize), that today had a chance to hit some big totals...it just continued on from there
    with pre-bed shake the only thing left to consume, totals this day will be
    5925cals, 790/435/115.5

    and i'm not going anywhere either - may stay here for tomorrow, slight drop on off-day Saturday (but not too much, as I have tennis planned with my son so we'll want to keep the cals up a bit), and pick up sunday again in same 6k range before I head upward on onwards 6000cals+ / 800g+ carbs ranges....we gonna keep pushing this thing until I sense I can no longer push it!





    dinner #2 tonight
    128g sweet potato+3/4c potatoes
    tuna & salsa+ham/turkey meat rolls stuffed with bbq sauce mix
    green beans
    935cals, 115/60/24.5



    had I planned this a little better, I would have had different carb sources w/ less fats, and stuffed some pepperjack cheese in those meat rolls with the sauce, mmmmm...I was hell-bent on potatoes this night tho, these sweet potatoes are addictive - I usually have always made my own (whole yams), but these frozen dudes are a tribute to my semi-relaxed approach here, and they are awesome (easier to make too, loads easier)
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    I bought some fl zero fat cheese. ... you can't taste it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I bought some fl zero fat cheese. ... you can't taste it
    yeah not surprised, zero fat cheese sux

    in other news: 210 this morning!
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    Three weeks ago, on the phone, you were roughly 177 if I remember correctly. 210 now? Holy Christ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Three weeks ago, on the phone, you were roughly 177 if I remember correctly. 210 now? Holy Christ.
    ooooo a para sighting!

    it's called two very opposite extremes of the scale, broham&cheese
    neither is truly representative of weight I will carry "normally" -- altho, 210 is A LOT closer to what norm will soon be, surely
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    Remember that time you moved 33lbs in 3 wks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Remember that time you moved 33lbs in 3 wks?
    LOL
    well when you put it like that it does sound kinda silly, doesn't it?
    do I hear 44# in 4 weeks? mmmm that may be pushing things, but I think 37-39# in that timeframe is eminently doable
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    Putting on decent size pretty quick it seems like, looking good Snags
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Putting on decent size pretty quick it seems like, looking good Snags
    thanks drew
    hopefully I don't start feeling immobile as hell - that's what has always curtailed my bulks in past times, just haven't felt good when I reach 210-215 range, too bulky and inflexible
    so far, so good on that aspect, tho belly feels pretty damn full all the time



    quick notation of protocol change:
    so I moved my glycomaize+isolate shake back to 1/2hr preWO, and moved the BCAA+SAA to intraWO
    not only does this make intuitive sense, I knew that when the preWO shake started getting larger it would mess with my training -- if I eat too close to training, stomach doesn't feel right, even wms or such other carb or even larger amount of isolate -- small glycomaize+isolate was okay but any bigger I would start disliking it
    anyway, this works much better in all aspects, am glad I made the switch
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    thanks drew
    hopefully I don't start feeling immobile as hell - that's what has always curtailed my bulks in past times, just haven't felt good when I reach 210-215 range, too bulky and inflexible
    so far, so good on that aspect, tho belly feels pretty damn full all the time

    quick notation of protocol change:
    so I moved my glycomaize+isolate shake back to 1/2hr preWO, and moved the BCAA+SAA to intraWO
    not only does this make intuitive sense, I knew that when the preWO shake started getting larger it would mess with my training -- if I eat too close to training, stomach doesn't feel right, even wms or such other carb or even larger amount of isolate -- small glycomaize+isolate was okay but any bigger I would start disliking it
    anyway, this works much better in all aspects, am glad I made the switch
    I like to eat about an hour pre workout. Not full when I go and by the time I'm done, get home and finish my bcaa it's time for my next scheduled meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I like to eat about an hour pre workout. Not full when I go and by the time I'm done, get home and finish my bcaa it's time for my next scheduled meal.
    yeah my protocol changes based on my bodycomp goals, sure..
    for now, looks like this:

    preWO meal is completed ~120min prior to start of training
    preWO glycomaize/isolate shake comes 90min later (so ~30min prior to training) along w/ MaxPump
    immediately upon starting training: begin consuming BCAA+SAA, sip thruout first 20-25min of session
    immediately end of training: postWO shake (rice krispy treat+2 rice cakes+2 TBS brown rice syrup+30g isolate)+CreaTrona (4g)
    ~35min following completion of shake: consume postWO meal

    I really like this set-up, for bulking times
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    hopefully I don't start feeling immobile as hell - that's what has always curtailed my bulks in past times, just haven't felt good when I reach 210-215 range, too bulky and inflexible
    I was curious how you will find your tennis game on the weekend after this major shift..

    I find it quite amazing how you are able to manipulate things perfectly to achieve your goals to a tee... impressive my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    I was curious how you will find your tennis game on the weekend after this major shift..
    will be interesting, i'm sure
    I find it quite amazing how you are able to manipulate things perfectly to achieve your goals to a tee... impressive my friend.
    thanks my man
    experimentation thruout the yrs has been fun, and edifying
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    It seems I like to eat and immediately drive to the gym. Then I take my time with prehab / foam rolling/ warmup and chat a few with friends (before I start, never during).

    Drink my pre somewhere in there.. Otherwise i'm too hungry at the gym to concentrate.
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    isn't it interesting how we all have our preferences
    I developed my main preference (90-120min eating prior to workout) over the yrs simply due to overall wish to maintain lean composition, fueled by my belief of training with more empty stomach than full therefore ability to burn more bodyfat within the training session itself ... had the added benefit of finding I felt better, when on more empty/digested stomach than with fuller belly due to eating closer to session -- I mean it's not like I feel sick with full belly or anything (like some guys do), just sluggish and less energy

    I have also never been big into the "designer carb" options, always prefer whole foods, but I do have to say I am enjoying this glycomaize a lot
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    a little more traditional snagalicious meal



    5oz steak
    1/4c basmati rice
    orange & red grilled peppers
    beans
    2 servings brown rice triscuits+1 serving tomato & basil popped! rice cakes
    not pictured: 1 scoop isolate
    910cals, 25g fat (most fat in a meal I've had for awhile)

    friggin meal was tasty as hell
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    Gotta say snags the best thing about your log ( besides the volume of information ) is your food porn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Gotta say snags the best thing about your log ( besides the volume of information ) is your food porn.
    cool luke, glad you are enjoying


    so my son stayed with me last night - he hadn't seen me in 2 weeks, tho we been talking and I've updated him on my progress..
    soon as I took my shirt off later in the day, he was like "whoaa dad! I could tell you were bigger when I first saw you, but now without your shirt on I can see what you mean about what that added weight would do for you! you're huge!" LOL

    he snapped couple pics before we went out and played tennis early this afternoon - really pleased with the shape of the back, looking pretty solid back there...legs are coming along well too (tho it's tougher to see the progress here), beefier, still veiny, and stronger! I mean I just been pounding iron in during training, been strong everywhere but leg strength has really shined bright





    lookin forward to mauling the chesticles tomorrow, been thinking about it ever since I sucked at tennis today
    can def feel the added weight (~10# above normal playing weight currently), i'm just getting too big to maneuver and have the flexibility I once had, I mean I don't feel too inflexible or anything but reaction time seems to have slowed a millisecond, and that is all it takes to mess me up...so, ima have to recalculate my moves out there, work on getting better foot/court position to make up for my dimming speed
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    Time for yoga?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Time for yoga?
    that may help a bit with overall flexibility, but I don't think it will improve my reaction time/movement any....it's all a matter of carrying the extra weight, and adjusting accordingly
    been there before - but instead of backing off because I don't feel athletically comfortable, I will see it thru all the way this time, tennis (or anything else) be damned
    eye on one prize at a time LOL
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    now THIS is a wrap





    thing was so big I couldn't even roll it right, shoulda just used two tortillas and layered one on top

    stuffed with 5oz steak+4oz rotisserie chicken deli slices+pepperjack cheese+bbq sauce mix+peppers
    garnished with 1/2c basmati rice
    salad/dressing/croutons/peppers and 3 pineapple slices (ate two of them finishing up cooking)
    put this meal ~1040cals
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    Looking huge man.. Dinner looks tasty as hell too. I know I don't have to say this but be careful you don't pull something playing tennis. That is the problem with slowing down and still trying to make a play (stretching way out to return the ball)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    that may help a bit with overall flexibility, but I don't think it will improve my reaction time/movement any....it's all a matter of carrying the extra weight, and adjusting accordingly been there before - but instead of backing off because I don't feel athletically comfortable, I will see it thru all the way this time, tennis (or anything else) be damned eye on one prize at a time LOL
    Yes, I remember you saying in earlier logs that your athleticism decreases after 200+ lbs BW. Been following and wondering why you're moving up to this high weight competition in sacrifice for tennis speed and agility. Curious, When you get your pro card, as "super large Snags", will you maintain or drop weight to favor athletics? Do you have a long term goal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Looking huge man.. Dinner looks tasty as hell too. I know I don't have to say this but be careful you don't pull something playing tennis. That is the problem with slowing down and still trying to make a play (stretching way out to return the ball)...
    great point my friend, very true - thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Yes, I remember you saying in earlier logs that your athleticism decreases after 200+ lbs BW. Been following and wondering why you're moving up to this high weight competition in sacrifice for tennis speed and agility. Curious, When you get your pro card, as "super large Snags", will you maintain or drop weight to favor athletics? Do you have a long term goal?
    mmm 200 is my normal carrying weight (195-200 range); it's actually 210-215 where my athleticism suffers -- which is where I am at right now

    the end goal is to add muscle and overall size, and win a pro card; all else (athletic-wise) is secondary to that..where I go from there is TBD but I think this sport may be my future -- much as I love tennis, it certainly holds no future for me
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    Understand. With this new resolve of yours, you are going to be huge. Fellows competitors, move out of the way because something large comes your way! Good lifting and we all know you can do this hands down Snags!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    something large comes your way!
    yeah -- my meals

    so today, plan is to take cals to 6000-6100 (prolly on the higher side), carbs should be 825-875ish, protein ~425, fats 120ish/125 tops
    guys who follow me know I typically like to have breakfast & dinner be my two largest meals of the day, breakfast because it also doubles as my preWO meal; and dinner just because it's my last true food feeding of the day and I follow with only shake until sleep, plus it just makes intellectual sense to have a large dinner....the breakfast being large due to doubling as preWO meal is not so important when i'm consuming preWO shake of wms+isolate, but still something I like to structure in a certain way

    so - I figured i'd put a nice chunk of the extra cals at breakfast...
    that said: breakfast went above & beyond this morning, came in ~1220cals, 165g carbs mammoth
    featured such good things as 5oz steak, 1/2c steel-cut oats, serving oatmeal squares cereal, 1c almond milk, 1c raspberries, slice of pineapple, scoop of whey -- and a pop-tart ahahaaa
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    absolutely fantastic training session this day - it was pretty intense

    I guess I should touch a bit on training parameters, so let me regress.. first, let me say that - after a stim break - I brought back a preWO energy matrix this day...Stimul8 baby, and boy oh boy was I stimulated LOL..feelsgoodman

    so was chesticles and abs; i'm keeping things very basic, not many tricks but intelligent maneuvers where I see fit...set tempos have been slowed, yet still explosive (but controlled!) in the concentric portion of the lift, tension on the muscle thruout entire movement....rest periods ~2min most of the time, tho I may take 2.5min or even 3min on legs some days
    format today was like so:

    4x weighted decline sit-ups
    2x flat crunches, non-weighted, max reps

    incline DB
    5x12/10/8/8/8
    *last 3 sets of these were done with 125 DBs, I mean I was just mauling these things like baby rattles

    flat bench BB
    4x8
    *mid-grip, to middle of chest

    decline BB
    3x10/8/6
    *I rarely do these, and they have to be done just perfectly to really make them worthwhile
    wide-grip, to top of chest/bottom of neck

    and that was that
    of course there was 7.5min warm-up & same cooldown, on treadmill

    then ran thru the postWO shake, and ~40min later had this big tastiness:



    2 servings mac & cheese+1/2 TBS butter+can chunk tuna
    1c raisin bran+1 scoop whey+1/2c almond milk+1/2c water
    1000cals, 145/70/17

    so at that point, with breakfast+postWO meal, and pre/postWO shakes, carbs are sitting ~435, which would be about 1/2 my daily allotment of carbs scheduled for today -- a perfect ratio

    you know I was thinking, as I adapt and get used to eating all this food, it's really gonna suck when I go back down to lower cals & carbs gonna be period of adjustment, that's for sure
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    Hmmmm SnagencyV3.0 ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Hmmmm SnagencyV3.0 ????
    I like it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Hmmmm SnagencyV3.0 ????


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    I like it!
    didn't I just see you somewhere else?
    is like deja vu all over again
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    dayyum....had to work with the last couple meals to fit everything where I wanted it for day
    went a smidge over on cals, but is okay - everything else basically fell in line with where I wanted it (protein a tad high/fats a tad low but i'm splitting hairs here, perfectionist in me coming out)

    will be 6150cals at end of day, 835/450/118.5
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    You plan on getting to that 1000g carbs?? I'm getting fat just reading bout having that many carbs lol
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    Glad to see you post up some of your workout info. Always interested to see what a beast like yourself does in the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    You plan on getting to that 1000g carbs?? I'm getting fat just reading bout having that many carbs lol
    yup sure do
    tbh I see myself hitting 6500-7000cals and 1000g+ carbs, before this is all over

    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Glad to see you post up some of your workout info. Always interested to see what a beast like yourself does in the gym.
    ah well I appreciate that -- quite honestly I am opposite, which is why I do not post up that info much
    I really could care less what someone is doing for workouts -- even if one is tediously painstaking, they typically do not describe or impart what kind of intensity they are using, let alone rest periods/rep tempo/etc etc....nor can they, without posting up a vid, impart what kind of form they are using (ie good structured form, or heave-ho'ing crap around and doing nothing to build muscle?)..of course with some guys, you know you can just see their #s and how they are built, what kind of person they are/knowledge they have, and just KNOW they are doing things correctly and on time, and their info rings true; but typically, w/o this valuable stuff in the mix, #s alone mean jack shyt
    and then, you have the issue on the #s themselves ie are they real? or are they fabricated in some fashion... certainly am not being accusatory here, simply saying I have seen my fair share of made-up #s on these websites thru the yrs, and it just adds to the frustration/distaste of following these workout logs
    also pertaining for me personally: I am a bit of a private person, and in my own little world when I train...when I trained in commercial gyms, I would ignore ppl who came up and tried to talk to me -- sometimes intentionally, sometimes just because I was mentally locked in on what I was trying to accomplish, so blocked everything else out, was oblivious LOL; anyway, eventually I bought equipment and fashioned my garage into a training room, so I could do things in my own little world, and it suits me well....I do not enjoy training with other ppl, and have turned down numerous requests to train with others

    all this to explain a bit, the many many factors that go into me not posting a lot of info on my training
    I focus on sharing other things, that I enjoy talking about more (like nutrition)


    speaking of nutrition:
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    ham&cheese lean pocket+white turkey/chicken/ham/1.5oz steak fajita
    stuffed with bbq sauce+pepperjack cheese+bell pepper+steak fajita rice
    green beans
    955cals, 125/65/24
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    So you are trying to say that my 650lb deadlift for 26 reps is made up? We're not friends no mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    yup sure do
    tbh I see myself hitting 6500-7000cals and 1000g+ carbs, before this is all over


    ah well I appreciate that -- quite honestly I am opposite, which is why I do not post up that info much
    I really could care less what someone is doing for workouts -- even if one is tediously painstaking, they typically do not describe or impart what kind of intensity they are using, let alone rest periods/rep tempo/etc etc....nor can they, without posting up a vid, impart what kind of form they are using (ie good structured form, or heave-ho'ing crap around and doing nothing to build muscle?)..of course with some guys, you know you can just see their #s and how they are built, what kind of person they are/knowledge they have, and just KNOW they are doing things correctly and on time, and their info rings true; but typically, w/o this valuable stuff in the mix, #s alone mean jack shyt
    and then, you have the issue on the #s themselves ie are they real? or are they fabricated in some fashion... certainly am not being accusatory here, simply saying I have seen my fair share of made-up #s on these websites thru the yrs, and it just adds to the frustration/distaste of following these workout logs
    also pertaining for me personally: I am a bit of a private person, and in my own little world when I train...when I trained in commercial gyms, I would ignore ppl who came up and tried to talk to me -- sometimes intentionally, sometimes just because I was mentally locked in on what I was trying to accomplish, so blocked everything else out, was oblivious LOL; anyway, eventually I bought equipment and fashioned my garage into a training room, so I could do things in my own little world, and it suits me well....I do not enjoy training with other ppl, and have turned down numerous requests to train with others

    all this to explain a bit, the many many factors that go into me not posting a lot of info on my training
    I focus on sharing other things, that I enjoy talking about more (like nutrition)


    speaking of nutrition:
    a meal from earlier



    ham&cheese lean pocket+white turkey/chicken/ham/1.5oz steak fajita
    stuffed with bbq sauce+pepperjack cheese+bell pepper+steak fajita rice
    green beans
    955cals, 125/65/24
    That fajita looks damn good sir.
  

  
 

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