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    Fug forgot my Vitamin D again this morning...
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    Yeah man, I'd like to think the extra little bit of carbs helped me push through. I got through all of the sets with relative ease, so I'll be bumping the weight up next session. I think my original estimates of 1RMs may have been a little on the low side. That or muscle memory is coming back.
    Either way, I did 155 for squats 10/10
    And 90 for lying leg curls 10/10
    Subbed the pull-ins for weighted knee raises 17.5 3/10
    And seated calf raises 90 3/10.
    Today was a rest day and my first visit to the endo. He's a cool dude and open to suggestion. We discussed therapy and alternatives. I had more blood drawn to be more inclusive than my first labs. On the topic of TRT, I've been thinking long and hard on it and I know it's a major (lifelong) commitment. I know there are more natural ways to raise test, but where will that leave me in a couple of years? If my levels continue to drop and overall physical and mental states get worse, will I ultimately wind up seeking TRT anyway? These are questions I will go over with endoman when my results come back from today's labs. I'm not just looking for an easy fix, I'm looking to feel good again by replacing what is missing. We'll see what happens.
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    On a lighter note, you know those muscles where your lats meet your ribs? You know, those ones I hadn't seen for a looooooong time. Well, they're showing themselves again when I lift my arms, and do a crappy pose. And those pesky upper abs that have been hiding for so long, you ask? Well, they happen to be saying hello too.
    PXB is the bee's knees. Did I mention that I'm in love with this product? So much that I'm ordering another bottle, this time on MY dime. That says a lot, because I'm the type of guy that owns a pair of pants for ten years before replacing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    On a lighter note, you know those muscles where your lats meet your ribs? You know, those ones I hadn't seen for a looooooong time. Well, they're showing themselves again when I lift my arms, and do a crappy pose. And those pesky upper abs that have been hiding for so long, you ask? Well, they happen to be saying hello too.
    PXB is the bee's knees. Did I mention that I'm in love with this product? So much that I'm ordering another bottle, this time on MY dime. That says a lot, because I'm the type of guy that owns a pair of pants for ten years before replacing them.
    serratus
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Ceratus...
    Yes sir. Serratus anterior. I like them. They are welcomed to stay as long as they'd like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Ceratus...
    Stupid double post. Effin phone.
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    AWESOME PROGRESS. Yeah 348 us pretty low. There are things they can try and they may work very well. Who knows. I know if mine come back low when I go back I am going to have her put me on TRT post haste! of course I am 40 and you are no where near it so I can see why you would have a major decision to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    AWESOME PROGRESS. Yeah 348 us pretty low. There are things they can try and they may work very well. Who knows. I know if mine come back low when I go back I am going to have her put me on TRT post haste! of course I am 40 and you are no where near it so I can see why you would have a major decision to make.
    I'm closer to 40 than you think. I turn 35 in June.
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    Alright, update.
    My blood was drawn day before yesterday at 10am. Results posted yesterday at 10am to mychart. Along with that, yesterday began what will probably be a lifelong journey with TRT. I administered my first dose of test-c to myself under the watchful eye of my endo's assistant. 150mgs into my right quad. To be honest, I have mixed emotions about it. It's kind of bittersweet. I know it will help me in the long run, but at the same time, feeling like your body is inadequate is not that great of a feeling. Also, picking up a prescription of a vial of hormones and thirteen needles kind of made me feel like a junkie. I'm sure I'll get over that. At the same time, injecting was SUPER EASY, and I have absolutely no PIP whatsoever. I think I'll stick to quads if it stays that easy.
    My weight loss has slowed, but I think that's due to muscle building and fat burning at the same time. Snapped a pic this morning before the gym. Have a good day all.


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    That shot has you showing more definition in your abs though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    That shot has you showing more definition in your abs though...
    David Copperfield taught me this cool trick with lighting that makes you look less fat. Haha. Thank you for the compliment sir. Just trying to have abs like you.
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    Whoever recommended GVT to me (Kleen), I hated your face this morning. Yup, leg day. I got 98 reps on squats. What happened to 99&100, you ask? They just weren't there. My legs are jello.
    Weight this morning was 182 so I'm holding there. Last night when I was putting the crib together for the alien growing inside my wife, she complimented me. She said "Your shoulders are getting big again" and put her hands on my traps. She also said "You're looking less fat". She has a funny way of saying things.
    PXB+GVT for the win. I'm becoming a happy man again.
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    Losing fat, gaining muscle. Very happy with PXB.
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    Yah I can see it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Whoever recommended GVT to me (Kleen), I hated your face this morning. Yup, leg day. I got 98 reps on squats. What happened to 99&100, you ask? They just weren't there. My legs are jello.
    Weight this morning was 182 so I'm holding there. Last night when I was putting the crib together for the alien growing inside my wife, she complimented me. She said "Your shoulders are getting big again" and put her hands on my traps. She also said "You're looking less fat". She has a funny way of saying things.
    PXB+GVT for the win. I'm becoming a happy man again.
    soo much LoL, there bro... (hate your face) haven't heard that in awhile, (alien growing in my wife) HAHA, I told my wife the same thing! and (looking less fat) is she a glass half empty kind of person?

    Lookin good in the pic bro! Leaning out nicely.
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    everything looking kosher in herre, keep trucking dave!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah I can see it....
    Thanks. I'm trying. I have til summer to be shredded.
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    soo much LoL, there bro... (hate your face) haven't heard that in awhile, (alien growing in my wife) HAHA, I told my wife the same thing! and (looking less fat) is she a glass half empty kind of person?

    Lookin good in the pic bro! Leaning out nicely.
    I try to keep it funny and my wife is the same way. She's not the pessimistic type, really, but she's just has a strange way of saying stuff.
    Thanks for the compliments. You're leaning out too Holmes.
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    everything looking kosher in herre, keep trucking dave!
    Thank you fine sir. I'm doing almost my best (sometimes I have a piece of bread).
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    Day by Day, we get better and better! Tillí we canít be beat Ė Wonít Be Beat!
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    I subbed pimpin'
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    Holy escalation Batman ...
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    Holy escalation Batman ...
    Yup, he took it to a whole new level.
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    So weight today was 185 post-workout. Weight loss has planed off and I think I'm beginning to put on the muscle that the GVT outline promised. Regardless of that theory, I'm still leaning out and the energy from PXB is still coming. I've done things a little different than everyone else, for selfish reasons. I wanted to make my bottle last, so I've only taken two per day. I take them upon waking and I have no issues throughout the day. The appetite suppression is great and by dinner time I'm hungry and I can shove some chicken in my face.
    I love this stuff. I love it a lot and I'm very thankful for the finaflex reps and their dedication to helping people. I can't say enough good things about them. I've gotten priceless advice that I will be able to use long into the future. This has been a great experience altogether.
    Thank you to snagencyV2.0 especially for the opportunity and dieting advice, and the behind the scenes answers he has given me.
    Although I still have a few pills left, I don't know that I need to eat them to provide a final review. I think my pictures are worth more than my words.
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    Thanks for the kind words ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Thanks for the kind words ...
    You guys have been great. This has been an awesome "welcome back" to this community. The amount of support here is nothing short of amazing. I wonder why I ever stopped visiting this forum.
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    Re: "Shredded by Summer" iparatroop's PX Black log.


    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    So weight today was 185 post-workout. Weight loss has planed off and I think I'm beginning to put on the muscle that the GVT outline promised. Regardless of that theory, I'm still leaning out and the energy from PXB is still coming. I've done things a little different than everyone else, for selfish reasons. I wanted to make my bottle last, so I've only taken two per day. I take them upon waking and I have no issues throughout the day. The appetite suppression is great and by dinner time I'm hungry and I can shove some chicken in my face.
    I love this stuff. I love it a lot and I'm very thankful for the finaflex reps and their dedication to helping people. I can't say enough good things about them. I've gotten priceless advice that I will be able to use long into the future. This has been a great experience altogether.
    Thank you to snagencyV2.0 especially for the opportunity and dieting advice, and the behind the scenes answers he has given me.
    Although I still have a few pills left, I don't know that I need to eat them to provide a final review. I think my pictures are worth more than my words.
    Awesome brother, were all here for you and glad to see you had great success with our PX black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Holy escalation Batman ...
    Indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    Yup, he took it to a whole new level.
    Yea I have been waiting patiently to get this kicked off. Had most the gear over a year ago but thanks to AM I learned alot more waiting. It was awesome to shed some unwanted bf with PX Black before starting though.

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    para your pics are showing awesome progress man. You can see the loss of fat, especially midsection, and the muscle on chest and shoulders are looking bigger. I knew when you started the GVT plus something as effective as PXB it would be a win for you. Alot of people don't realize also, that when leaner, you look bigger if you have some muscle there. A problem with alot of the "bulk addicts". Manorexia at it's best. You will have no problem exceeding your goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    So weight today was 185 post-workout. Weight loss has planed off and I think I'm beginning to put on the muscle that the GVT outline promised. Regardless of that theory, I'm still leaning out and the energy from PXB is still coming. I've done things a little different than everyone else, for selfish reasons. I wanted to make my bottle last, so I've only taken two per day. I take them upon waking and I have no issues throughout the day. The appetite suppression is great and by dinner time I'm hungry and I can shove some chicken in my face.
    I love this stuff. I love it a lot and I'm very thankful for the finaflex reps and their dedication to helping people. I can't say enough good things about them. I've gotten priceless advice that I will be able to use long into the future. This has been a great experience altogether.
    Thank you to snagencyV2.0 especially for the opportunity and dieting advice, and the behind the scenes answers he has given me.
    Although I still have a few pills left, I don't know that I need to eat them to provide a final review. I think my pictures are worth more than my words.
    your success has been apparent dave, and your drive & enthusiasm equally obvious as well
    i am very pleased for you, and thankful for you taking time to run this!

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    para your pics are showing awesome progress man. You can see the loss of fat, especially midsection, and the muscle on chest and shoulders are looking bigger. I knew when you started the GVT plus something as effective as PXB it would be a win for you. Alot of people don't realize also, that when leaner, you look bigger if you have some muscle there. A problem with alot of the "bulk addicts". Manorexia at it's best. You will have no problem exceeding your goals.
    boldened - very fresh and on-point outlook
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    para your pics are showing awesome progress man. You can see the loss of fat, especially midsection, and the muscle on chest and shoulders are looking bigger. I knew when you started the GVT plus something as effective as PXB it would be a win for you. Alot of people don't realize also, that when leaner, you look bigger if you have some muscle there. A problem with alot of the "bulk addicts". Manorexia at it's best. You will have no problem exceeding your goals.
    The minute i begin dropping weight i almost always look bigger. I drop 10 lbs and look like ive gained 10. I love it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    para your pics are showing awesome progress man. You can see the loss of fat, especially midsection, and the muscle on chest and shoulders are looking bigger. I knew when you started the GVT plus something as effective as PXB it would be a win for you. Alot of people don't realize also, that when leaner, you look bigger if you have some muscle there. A problem with alot of the "bulk addicts". Manorexia at it's best. You will have no problem exceeding your goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    your success has been apparent dave, and your drive & enthusiasm equally obvious as well
    i am very pleased for you, and thankful for you taking time to run this!

    boldened - very fresh and on-point outlook
    I also love you, in a no-homo kind of way.
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    This morning was stupid. I have a long commute to work in an old ass VW bug. I get to work at 0658 and it's a 45 second walk from there to the gym. I get out of my stupid car, go to grab my backpack with my uniform and other goodies in it and the damn thing left itself at home. So, I had to drive 30 minutes home and about 35 minutes back cursing Seattle "drivers" the whole way. I wound up getting into the gym at 0810. Today is an off day from lifting so I had planned on putting in 8 miles on the treadmill. Fail. I wound up turning a mile in 6:15 and did some ab work for the next 20 minutes and got my shower on. Although I didn't get to do what I had planned, it was still somewhat productive.
    On another note; I don't know why people insist that it takes a couple of weeks for test-c to kick in. Maybe once I have more time on treatment, I'll have a better argument against this notion, but for right now I'm already noticing changes (7 days after first injection). I sleep differently, I wake differently, I'm dreaming for the first time in I don't know how long and my overall mood is getting better. I can't attribute any composition changes to treatment yet, but there are other signs that my levels are up. Maybe initial effects aren't as pronounced in individuals with higher starting levels?
    Anyway, things are going very well with progress and I look forward to the next few months/years. I've also decided to continue this log after I finish with PXB to continue tracking my progress and to keep me motorvated (I know that's not the proper spelling, but it means keeping my motor running). You all are welcome to follow along once I switch over. I think it will be fun.
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    I've noticed an increase in libido and positive aggression within a week of starting a test regimen. Too many people cycling high doses giving advice imo. Take someone that has had very low test levels for a while I bet they notice it very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    I've noticed an increase in libido and positive aggression within a week of starting a test regimen. Too many people cycling high doses giving advice imo. Take someone that has had very low test levels for a while I bet they notice it very quickly.
    Yeah, the whole long ester, long reaction time I believe, at this point, to be somewhat of a fallacy, at least to a certain degree. Although structural changes are not going to be prevalent at this point (which, generally speaking, shouldn't be expected with too many compounds), there are psychological changes that I've noticed. I'm still not where I would like to be symptomatically,but I understand cumulative effects enough to know that this is a process and not an overnight thing.
    All of this probably doesn't belong in a log of this sort, so I'll stop there and continue once I submit my final review of PXB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

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    I also love you, in a no-homo kind of way.
    Bromance!!

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    On another note; I don't know why people insist that it takes a couple of weeks for test-c to kick in. Maybe once I have more time on treatment, I'll have a better argument against this notion, but for right now I'm already noticing changes (7 days after first injection). I sleep differently, I wake differently, I'm dreaming for the first time in I don't know how long and my overall mood is getting better. I can't attribute any composition changes to treatment yet, but there are other signs that my levels are up. Maybe initial effects aren't as pronounced in individuals with higher starting levels?!!
    Hopefully i'll notice the same things !

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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    I love you.
    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    I also love you, in a no-homo kind of way.
    Bromance!!

    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    On another note; I don't know why people insist that it takes a couple of weeks for test-c to kick in. Maybe once I have more time on treatment, I'll have a better argument against this notion, but for right now I'm already noticing changes (7 days after first injection). I sleep differently, I wake differently, I'm dreaming for the first time in I don't know how long and my overall mood is getting better. I can't attribute any composition changes to treatment yet, but there are other signs that my levels are up. Maybe initial effects aren't as pronounced in individuals with higher starting levels?!!
    Hopefully i'll notice the same things !

    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    I've noticed an increase in libido and positive aggression within a week of starting a test regimen. Too many people cycling high doses giving advice imo. Take someone that has had very low test levels for a while I bet they notice it very quickly.
    Looking forward to it. I wanted my VA doctor to run all my bloods back in December but he only ran my cholesterol and liver enzymes. I at least have another appointment with him in April to get those same things checked so as far as those numbers it will be a good indication of how the cycle is treating me just not my test and estrogen levels

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    Tell him you have symptoms of low test (ED, depression, unexplained fat gain, trouble focusing, etc...) and that you want a full hormone panel run or that you request a referral to an endocrinologist if he can't support your request. Let him know you're educated on the subject and hopefully that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post

    The minute i begin dropping weight i almost always look bigger. I drop 10 lbs and look like ive gained 10. I love it lol.
    I'm trying to get to that point. I'm dropping fat at the same time I'm gaining muscle so it's happening, but slowly. I'm patient. I patiently got fat.
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    A lot of factors to this, first it's easier for more efficient body types as they seem to get more bang out of their groceries. These guys should probably never all out bulk, lean bulk or recomp. Diet is very important of course. Good quality foods at the right ratio. The use of anabolics is very useful for this as long as you know what you are doing with your diet. Sensing a patter here ?
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    Man I keep seeing everyone getting on TRT. Can't wait for my turn. Hopefully my levels were low enough I can hop on when I go back to the Dr and won't need to PCT. They have been notoriously low but not enough to get me on TRT for 2 years. Best i got was 455 and that was on 3 different test boosters. However the other 2 were 340 and just over 400. Not low enough for TRT but not high enough to feel good and motivated. If not low enough already they will definitely be low enough by the time I go back in to test them again during and after my run.
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