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    I'm only supposed to be getting in 2478 to cut...trying to stay lower then ill re feed tomorrow during cricket.

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    My basic cal level with no activity is about 2300 but much higher when I add in my activity. With activity I average about 3050 daily but I have higher and lower days. That keeps me at about the same weight.
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    Down half a kg. On track for a good speed without losing muscle. 82.5kg
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Whoah talk about the bush lands of the Out back... if you are gonna pull your drawers that far down for a picture trim up the Down Under Mate!

    i fell off my damn chair

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    I second this
    well you would wouldn't you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    i fell off my damn chair

    well you would wouldn't you..

    What can I say, Chris makes me a very happy and fulfilled girl...
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    a quick question with G8...

    About the 30min mark, after taking it, I get this hard to breathe feeling...Any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    a quick question with G8...

    About the 30min mark, after taking it, I get this hard to breathe feeling...Any thoughts?
    yup
    is normal, with phenibut
    sometimes it's a little more noticeable than others, and this effect is usually very dose dependent
    (ie the more you consume at one setting, the more notable it is)
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    a quick question with G8...

    About the 30min mark, after taking it, I get this hard to breathe feeling...Any thoughts?
    Probably the GABA. Gets me everytime. No big deal, just means it's legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    Probably the GABA. Gets me everytime. No big deal, just means it's legit.
    yeah that is generalized way of looking at it..lil more complex tho, as G8 is not simple GABA

    the combination that is G8 is actually phenibut (and of course mucuna pruriens or l-dopa), and:

    Picamilon (also known as nicotinoyl-GABA, Pycamilon, and Pikamilon) is a dietary supplement formed by combining niacin with GABA. It was developed in the Soviet Union in 1969 by the All-Union Vitamins Scientific Research Institute and further studied in both Russia and Japan as a prodrug of GABA.

    Picamilon is sold in the United States as a dietary supplement, while in Russia it is sold as a prescription drug. The rights to the drug belong to pharmaceutical company NPK ECHO ("НПК ЭХО"), Moscow, Russia.

    Picamilon is able to cross the blood–brain barrier and then is hydrolyzed into GABA and niacin. The released GABA in theory would activate GABA receptors potentially producing an anxiolytic response. The second released component, niacin acts as a strong vasodilator, which might be useful for the treatment of migraine headaches.
    and

    5-Hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP), also known as oxitriptan (INN), is a naturally occurring amino acid and chemical precursor as well as a metabolic intermediate in the biosynthesis of the neurotransmitters serotonin and melatonin from tryptophan.

    5-HTP is sold over the counter in the United Kingdom, United States and Canada as a dietary supplement for use as an antidepressant, appetite suppressant, and sleep aid, and is also marketed in many European countries for the indication of major depression under trade names like Cincofarm, Levothym, Levotonine, Oxyfan, Telesol, Tript-OH, and Triptum. Several double-blind placebo-controlled clinical trials have demonstrated the effectiveness of 5-HTP in the treatment of depression, though a lack of high quality studies has been noted. More and larger studies are needed to determine if 5-HTP is truly effective in treating depression.

    The psychoactive action of 5-HTP is derived from its effect on the production of serotonin in central nervous system tissue. More specifically, 5-HTP increases the production of serotonin.

    5-HTP is sold over-the-counter in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada as a dietary supplement for use as an antidepressant, appetite suppressant, and sleep aid. 5-HTP in supplement form is typically sold in 50 mg or 100 mg gelatin or vegetarian capsules. It is usually sourced from the seeds of Griffonia simplicifolia.

    5-HTP has been studied and shown to be of benefit in the following conditions: primary fibromyalgia syndrome, Friedreich's ataxia, depression, anxiety, binge eating associated with obesity, and insomnia. There is no statistically significant difference between 5-HTP and placebo in treating chronic headaches (primary or otherwise).

    A 2001 meta-analysis found that of 108 studies on 5-HTP published between 1966 and 2000, only two met the authors' quality standards for inclusion. The two studies that were deemed of sufficient quality did not deal with 5-HTP exclusively, instead combining results for 5-HTP and tryptophan, so the results may not be completely applicable for 5-HTP alone. While the combined analysis of the two 5-HTP and tryptophan studies showed significant effectiveness over placebo in treating depression, the authors state that overall "the evidence was of insufficient quality to be conclusive". They also state that "because alternative antidepressants exist which have been proven to be effective and safe, the clinical usefulness of 5-HTP and tryptophan is limited at present".

    5-HTP is often taken by people coming down from MDMA to relieve post-MDMA dysphoria. The basis for doing this is that 5-HTP is a necessary precursor for the brain to produce more serotonin, and MDMA use depletes a person's natural serotonin levels, thus taking 5-HTP after a dose of MDMA could improve serotonin production. While the practice is common, no verifiable evidence could be found to confirm whether the practice actually works.

    Because 5-HTP has not been thoroughly studied in a clinical setting, possible side effects and interactions with other drugs are not well known. However, it is noteworthy that no published reports of serious side effects exist, despite that 5-HTP is freely available as a nutraceutical. This could indicate that serious side effects are relatively rare with 5-HTP, at least in moderate doses. On the other hand, acute moderate gastrointestinal effects, such as diarrhea and vomiting, are common upon administration of 5-HTP, probably due to rapid formation of serotonin in the upper intestinal tract.


    pretty comprehensive product, but a lot of interactive triggers
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    yeah that is generalized way of looking at it..lil more complex tho, as G8 is not simple GABA

    the combination that is G8 is actually phenibut (and of course mucuna pruriens or l-dopa), and:

    and

    pretty comprehensive product, but a lot of interactive triggers
    Indeed. I have taken nearly every ingredient in there and love the formula. I imagine the 4-aminobutanoic acid (gaba) content to be enough to induce the shortness of breath feeling. Totally common and passes quickly. Picamilion is an interesting addition, as it gives me an alert feeling, even at low dose.
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    Ahhh...I had a hint it was gaba.
    Thx guys...I thought I had taken a fraction over half scoop and it did it. Last night was slightly under half scoop and it worked fine.
    No issue...

    I had energy to burn yesterday. Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    This video is private it says. Did you post yourself trimming things up man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post

    This video is private it says. Did you post yourself trimming things up man?
    Damn bro.
    See other log for vid.

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    Just popped 2 PX Black.
    Cardio only today and will be this everning whilst in net for cricket.
    Feeling it in my legs and back today...I will foam roll tonight after work.

    Breakfast will be
    200g grass fed mince
    2tbsp sauerkraut
    Small amount of organic pasta sauce
    1tsp free range garlic aioli.
    Beans and broccoli

    Snack
    Gluten free protein bar low carb,no sugar alcohol and 1 oz nuts

    Lunch
    150g steak and 100g mince and veggies
    1oz nuts or 1tblsp olive oil

    Dinner
    240g Grilled chicken cooked in grass fed butter (size of pinky nail)
    Veggies
    Aioli

    Then training.

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    i like sauerkraut..but - for breakfast?
    wow, interesting, you are a boss man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    i like sauerkraut..but - for breakfast?
    wow, interesting, you are a boss man!
    Its a great probiotic and mixed into mince and sauce its actui tasty.

    I'm up to 83.5 but leaner...puzzled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    I'm up to 83.5 but leaner...puzzled?
    that would be called muscle accrual

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    So I'm recomping.

    Hmmmm. Interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    How was time away Steve?
    i wish i could say it was restful
    was good time down there tho, great meeting everybody and learning more about the company
    i continue to be impressed with these guys!
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    Nice bro

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    Very worn out today...bout to have my G8 then bed.
    Ended up falling asleep after dinner. Had 3 cups berries cause I was tired and needed some fuel but just died.

    Training everyday takes a toll...but will be refreshed tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    i wish i could say it was restful
    was good time down there tho, great meeting everybody and learning more about the company
    i continue to be impressed with these guys!
    That's good to hear...
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    Rest is juat as important as all ohter aspects of your training, there is only so long you can go every day.
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    Just took my g8, feeling smooth.
    Great workouts, sweating like a pig on a spit.

    Dosing 2 Px preworkout and 1 pre lunch.

    Have my air set to 21 degrees celcius and still warm lol...

    Super impressed with the focus blend.
    I would also advise that this and Alc+Cla stacked would be the bees knees.

    Alcar with pea, irisinxd and yohimbine would be a force worth reckoning with. Great stuff.

    I still have some appetite so I can maintain energy and still cut kcals.

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    you are hitting all the nice products for a very effective recipe there, chris
    PX and ALC+CLA..
    some Ignite2 + MAX PUMP for preWO..
    G8 before bed to calm things down and encourage restful, muscle-recovering sleep..

    do you work for us, or what?
    good stuff
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    I'm plenty hungry come eatin time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    you are hitting all the nice products for a very effective recipe there, chris
    PX and ALC+CLA..
    some Ignite2 + MAX PUMP for preWO..
    G8 before bed to calm things down and encourage restful, muscle-recovering sleep..

    do you work for us, or what?
    good stuff
    Just know what works.
    I wanted to comment how max pump would work with i2. Synergistic.

    I also know that aav2 would work well with px black.

    Some serious stacking options there

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    My 1st day-after running G8, work shift is 3pm-midnight so took it right after work (approx-00:30) Started off with a full scoop. Approx 1 hour later I felt totally relaxed and at ease - (I do suffer from anxiety and insomnia so I believe this sup helped me out) It took about 2 hours to put me out.. Woke up around Noon- felt an almost un-describable feeling i never felt before- a mix of : disorientated and dizzy. Had my normal Pre-wokout shake (Oatmeal, peanut butter, Whey Protein) Hit the gym around 2:30 pm. All I have to say I felt extremely strong, I didnt want to rest long between sets for Deadlifts , and kept looking for extra exercises to add. I dont know if G8 had anything to do with it, I also feel in a spectacular positive mood. I have mixed feeling so far..Thinking I am going to run it at half a scoop tonight Or perhaps take Dreamweaver's suggestion and run it just 3 times a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutostronzo View Post
    My 1st day-after running G8, work shift is 3pm-midnight so took it right after work (approx-00:30) Started off with a full scoop. Approx 1 hour later I felt totally relaxed and at ease - (I do suffer from anxiety and insomnia so I believe this sup helped me out) It took about 2 hours to put me out.. Woke up around Noon- felt an almost un-describable feeling i never felt before- a mix of : disorientated and dizzy. Had my normal Pre-wokout shake (Oatmeal, peanut butter, Whey Protein) Hit the gym around 2:30 pm. All I have to say I felt extremely strong, I didnt want to rest long between sets for Deadlifts , and kept looking for extra exercises to add. I dont know if G8 had anything to do with it, I also feel in a spectacular positive mood. I have mixed feeling so far..Thinking I am going to run it at half a scoop tonight Or perhaps take Dreamweaver's suggestion and run it just 3 times a week.
    nice feedback
    me - i like 5on/2off dosing scheme, then 4-week total break after 8-12 weeks of use
    works well for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    nice feedback
    me - i like 5on/2off dosing scheme, then 4-week total break after 8-12 weeks of use
    works well for me

    Very nice- Thanks for the feedback!- I will have to give that one a try. Or my other solution I was contemplating was to alternate G8 one night and GABA the next, We'll see how I feel after dosing at .05 scoop tonight
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    Excellent on the lean mass gains Chris! As far as maximizing G8's GH benefits you would get more out of using it on a 5 on 2 off, you will get used to the part that got you disoriented pretty quickly but 2/3 scoop is all I really ever do now. If trying to make one bottle of G* last longer I can see doing it 3 times a week or just using it for the benefit of better sleep and recovery a few times a week. However the more days a week you have levels high without attenuating to the GH stimulation the better. The practice of 5 on 2 off has been a staple in running GH products for max benefit and minimum attentuation for quite a while.
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    Good updates!! Pass me some of the sweating effect lol I need to swear a whole person out.

    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Just took my g8, feeling smooth.
    Great workouts, sweating like a pig on a spit.

    Dosing 2 Px preworkout and 1 pre lunch.

    Have my air set to 21 degrees celcius and still warm lol...

    Super impressed with the focus blend.
    I would also advise that this and Alc+Cla stacked would be the bees knees.

    Alcar with pea, irisinxd and yohimbine would be a force worth reckoning with. Great stuff.

    I still have some appetite so I can maintain energy and still cut kcals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Excellent on the lean mass gains Chris! As far as maximizing G8's GH benefits you would get more out of using it on a 5 on 2 off, you will get used to the part that got you disoriented pretty quickly but 2/3 scoop is all I really ever do now. If trying to make one bottle of G* last longer I can see doing it 3 times a week or just using it for the benefit of better sleep and recovery a few times a week. However the more days a week you have levels high without attenuating to the GH stimulation the better. The practice of 5 on 2 off has been a staple in running GH products for max benefit and minimum attentuation for quite a while.

    Cool, I figured as such that Disorientation would eventually dissipate . I totally agree with keeping GH level's sustained and will give the 5day on-2Off a go with the 2/3 dose. Thanks everyone for the great feedback!
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    Its a pretty intense product.
    I am having sleep I haven't had in years.

    I still take half a scoop, any more and I get a hard to breathe, dizzy feeling.

    I'm glad I have this in my arsenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Its a pretty intense product.
    I am having sleep I haven't had in years.

    I still take half a scoop, any more and I get a hard to breathe, dizzy feeling.

    I'm glad I have this in my arsenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yes that is the sides for these types of products. One time a took my G8 and went and did like 18 wheel of death, It almost came true, I just about died.
    Yea I can definitely see an issue with Wheel of death and G8 being a scary experience, lol .. But yea just went with 1/2 scoop and today Im good to go, no disorientation, no cloudiness, not feeling anything negative, woke up feeling charged! otw to hit the iron!
  

  
 

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