1 alpha/550 cycle to begin dec 1

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  1. does anyone have anything i can take for this lethargy? man it is kicking my ass
    all i wan to do is lay around and sleep.
    i fear i will slack off on my workouts if i don't beat it.
    i know some of it is the low test and some from the 1 alpha as /Dream mentioned '
    just want to know what is done to combat it.
    help please...


  2. I started taking a Pre workout supplement. That helped. I've had two bad workouts because of lethargy. The PWO has helped.
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  3. a lot of guys use stano for that.
    cheap, effective in fairly short time.

    i'm having a touch of lethargy myself, ~5 weeks into my cycle now.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by chefbo View Post
    does anyone have anything i can take for this lethargy? man it is kicking my ass
    all i wan to do is lay around and sleep.
    i fear i will slack off on my workouts if i don't beat it.
    i know some of it is the low test and some from the 1 alpha as /Dream mentioned '
    just want to know what is done to combat it.
    help please...
    Laymen terms

    Young Gottie

  5. Hey bro late to the party. I had some lethargy but just kept on with it. Try DAA for a week or stano. Caffeine can be your friend here. Your earlier posts said you were questioning the efficacy of 1-alpha. I had the same doubts because I was used to products kicking in faster but trust me when I say the stuff works and works well. It was like day 14 when I really started noticing full effects. Just stay with it. You won't be let down. Just be careful when it kicks in because you will have the lifting capacity to injure yourself. For you I would recommend higher reps and more volume when it kicks in.
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  6. thanks for the info palm. your logs look great btw.i think i am gonna slack off alpha for a couple days to see waht happens. it shouldn't effect me much since it has been in my system for 21days and i am still not getting what i though jsut tired as ****. don't want a bummed out Christmas with the kids so i am off of it till thursday. still gonna get a lift in today and tomorrow just gonna go clean and see what happens . will log to let everyone know on wednesday. Merry Christmas to all my fellow Finaflex bros hope santa is good to all of you!

  7. Chef, I wonder if a bridge to 1Andro would help?

    Merry Christmas!

  8. Good luck. Hope you get the energy back
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  9. feeling less tired so far today right now is when i usually getted gassed. still got one more big meal for christmas and then we will see what happens . everyone enjoy the rest of this great day and get backa t it tomorrow. Merry christmas and to all a good night !

  10. laying off the 1 alpha was the trick . way more energy yesterday and today so far. i took 4 four hours apart last night and slept really well and have energy today. i know that is not what is recommended but it was dragging me down. maybe i just don't reacte well to it. i don't believe it is the product it is me. Gonna try a 1 andro run next time (heavier than the last time) and add some test to the mix. some things just don't work out but that is ok. so i will start pct on monday and take eight weeks off then go again. now what i wanted but thats the breaks. my back is still seized up and i am having to take muscle relaxers for it . i will probably go see the endo next week to see where we are at as far as the test levels go. keep everyone posted if they are intersted. sorry this log was a bust for me wish it could have been better. finishing weight was 179 bulked up some in my chest withthe addition of the benches at the new Y. more shapely shoulders are showing more striations and i did add 1/2 inch on my arms. so not everything is a loss, just wish i could have finished stronger.

  11. wow that's too bad, sorry to hear of this chef.
    so - you've stopped everything as of now? if so, why wait till monday to start pct?
    should start immediately.

    we appreciate the time you've taken here friend, and your honest feedback.

  12. sorry for the confusion i am gonna finish up the alpha(no sense in wasting it.) i should be done by monday. then i will go on the pct. that is what i meant to say i am just not gonna take 1 aplha in the morning anymoreit just drags me down too much after workout. i have some super pump coming for preworkout to see if that will give me aboost . yeah i am really dissapointed in this occurence i was expecting huge things from it. i never ever got the kick everyone was talking about could be my age as palmfist and others are much younger. Dream is so different from others as he looks like he has the genetics and super drive to get things done without much injury. he is definately an insiration for us older guys. i am not finished with Finaflex yet i will be back in the spring for a 1 andro run /finish with test e that was a pretty good one for me for my first cycle last year(used epi-v ) i am just gonna up the dosage and hope for the best.

  13. Wow sounds pretty crazy with the tiredness. Was it tired as in no energy or tired as in eyes rolling back in your head can't keep them open tiredness? I get the second way sometimes when my blood sugar swings on the lower side. Taking an anabolic will certainly increase glut-4 trans-location to the point you could have been dipping into some lower blood sugar issues if you are sensitive to it.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  14. yeah Kleen, was a lil wild to hear for me as well.
    a little out of my depth to help diagnose, as i've not experienced anyone having that issue to that extent on this compound.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Wow sounds pretty crazy with the tiredness. Was it tired as in no energy or tired as in eyes rolling back in your head can't keep them open tiredness? I get the second way sometimes when my blood sugar swings on the lower side. Taking an anabolic will certainly increase glut-4 trans-location to the point you could have been dipping into some lower blood sugar issues if you are sensitive to it.
    It was total lack of energy to the point I would go onto deep sleep when I got home. Now my test is really low and that might have a lot to do with it if this suppresses test production to boot.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by chefbo View Post
    It was total lack of energy to the point I would go onto deep sleep when I got home. Now my test is really low and that might have a lot to do with it if this suppresses test production to boot.
    1-andro-like supps are notorious for causing some lethargy and that's why many use a test base with them to help. If I decide to use it I will be covering that aspect.

    Are you planning on using something more than OTC PCT since you think you may be hammered?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by rhizome View Post

    1-andro-like supps are notorious for causing some lethargy and that's why many use a test base with them to help. If I decide to use it I will be covering that aspect.

    Are you planning on using something more than OTC PCT since you think you may be hammered?
    I am gonna wait and see what the doc says before get anything else. Ihave revolution on hand and have a source for clomid if needed so I should be fine. Nolibido change or testes problems. Like I said it could be a combination of things.

  18. Yah in the old days we used 4ad transdermal but that is in the past. I hope by stacking it with 550 I can dodge the lethargy. Not as many seem to experience the lethargy with 1-alpha so I could get lucky in that aspect as well.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  19. Quote Originally Posted by chefbo View Post
    It was total lack of energy to the point I would go onto deep sleep when I got home. Now my test is really low and that might have a lot to do with it if this suppresses test production to boot.
    Yes 1-Alpha definitely suppresses testosterone production, to what extent really has to do with your HPTA but if you are already testing in the 300 then either you started a little low or are just very sensitive to HPTA shut down.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  20. loved me some dermacrine.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    loved me some dermacrine.
    Are there any good alternatives? I did some searching and found some dhea creams but no solid background info...
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Are there any good alternatives? I did some searching and found some dhea creams but no solid background info...
    dermacrine formula has been picked up by BPS. sposed to be same as Pp product.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    dermacrine formula has been picked up by BPS. sposed to be same as Pp product.
    Out of stock everywhere except amazon and eBay. Saw an androhard stack up for $500! Whew. Anyway I'm gonna pick up some life-flo dhea plus cream and do a review
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  24. [QUOTE="PalmFist;3775676"]

    Out of stock everywhere except amazon and eBay. Saw an androhard stack up for $500! Whew. Anyway I'm gonna pick up some life-flo dhea plus cream and do a review[/QUOT
    Young Gottie

  25. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Out of stock everywhere except amazon and eBay. Saw an androhard stack up for $500! Whew. Anyway I'm gonna pick up some life-flo dhea plus cream and do a review
    uggh.
    i knew derma was getting scarce but sheesh.
    lol on the price some of these guys think they can get for their 'discontinued product'.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    uggh.
    i knew derma was getting scarce but sheesh.
    lol on the price some of these guys think they can get for their 'discontinued product'.
    No kidding
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  27. Yeah BPS is releasing a newer version with a different compound I believe but will still be androgenic. A little oral dhea and some pregnenolone might help in a pinch.That or buy dhea powder and a little emu oil and make your own solution.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  28. Ok so it's a transdermal to replace Derma ..
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  29. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah BPS is releasing a newer version with a different compound I believe but will still be androgenic. A little oral dhea and some pregnenolone might help in a pinch.That or buy dhea powder and a little emu oil and make your own solution.
    Shoot man I was gonna log some dhea cream by life-flo and just skip the pregnenolone just for an energy boost. Decided to just run daa for about ten days instead. Pretty sure the arimistane in 550 will keep conversion down. I spent hours looking for some dermacrine but once I found it there was no way I would pay what people are asking. And oral dhea is like 15 times less potent than transD so... Daa instead. Anyway, so that emu oil stuff really work? I've read about it many times for diff things but never tried it.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by babyfrank View Post

    Thanks

    Yo Gottie
    What would be different if i did 8 hours apart

    Young Gottie
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