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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    awhile yet.
    i'm excited as hell to try them out, but it's not time.
    March perhaps.

    i did however dive into the G8 to check it out..
    stuff's the real deal, first impressions are good.
    Yah it's really fuggin strong, I still only take about 3/4 of a scoop.
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    Wait is Epi-v back on the menu... I thought it was being dicontinued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Wait is Epi-v back on the menu... I thought it was being dicontinued.
    it is.
    i got the last 2 bottles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    it is.
    i got the last 2 bottles.

    I thought I got the last of it .. oh well I have six
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I thought I got the last of it .. )
    they dug far to find some, so snags could experience it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    they dug far to find some, so snags could experience it too.
    I like how they formulated it to harden and dry you out slowly...makes a big differnce for a watery guy like me.
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    Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    Come guys damn, is it march yet so I can tap my 2 bottles.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348
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    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Come guys damn, is it march yet so I can tap my 2 bottles.
    Retailers have some still...
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    Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    I know. I already bought some back when NP was running the bogo with creatona.
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    Yeah, I will have to go with Stano, Green Tee, Methyl Synephrine and Uva Ursi to lean up for my show. I don't have any of it.
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    Kleen... I honestly wish I had more so I could send you some, but we found 2 bottles in the warehouse and Snags was asking for it previously, so I was happy to be able to send it to him. I do know that sometime this year, no dates have been announced to me yet, but we are going to reformulate the EPI-V and it is supposed to be an even more aggressive, yet safe formula for pre-contest style shredding, I can't wait!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Kleen... I honestly wish I had more so I could send you some, but we found 2 bottles in the warehouse and Snags was asking for it previously, so I was happy to be able to send it to him. I do know that sometime this year, no dates have been announced to me yet, but we are going to reformulate the EPI-V and it is supposed to be an even more aggressive, yet safe formula for pre-contest style shredding, I can't wait!!!
    Cool I should be able to make it with what I have left.
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    been like forever since i ate out..haven't even stepped outside the planned dietary fare by a crumb the entire yr..
    decided i'd check out Subway today, the $5 footlong chipotle chicken that's the special of the month.
    never had it before.

    oh
    my
    gawddd

    thing was fire.

    tided me over real nice till i get to go out to my fav italian joint Casa's on sunday.
    i got like 3 dinner dates planned over the next week or so.
    ugh.
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    i just thought i'd leave this here.



    ACTIVE MULTI™ is a complete multivitamin formulated to meet the demands of an active lifestyle. ACTIVE MULTI™ is built with ingredients that promote optimal wellness by working synergistically to create a healthy environment in the body.*

    Powered by pTeroPure™ pterostibene and other robust ingredients like CoQ10 and Cissus Quadrangularis, ACTIVE MULTI™ boasts an all encompassing formula that can be used by both men and women to support a healthy and active lifestyle.*

    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 4 Capsules
    Servings Per Container: 30
    Amount Per Serving
    %DV*
    ESSENTIAL AMINO ACID MATRIX
    L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Valine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Isoleucine, L-Methionine, L-Threonine, L-Histidine, L-Tryptophan
    552 mg

    SUPER ANTIOXIDANT MATRIX
    Grape Seed Extract, pTeroPureâ�˘† (pterostilbene)
    60 mg

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    Flax Seed, Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA), Ginko Bilboa
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    N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin), Schizandra Berry
    135 mg

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    Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Cissus Quadrangularis Extract, Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)
    275 mg

    DIGESTIVE HEALTH MATRIX
    Pancreatine Enzyme, Papaya Enzyme
    110 mg

    HEART SUPPORT MATRIX
    Garlic Extract, Hawthorne Berry, CoQ10
    60 mg

    **Daily Value not Established | * Based on a 2,000 Calorie Diet

    Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Gelatin, Silica, Magnesium Stearate, Titanium Dioxide

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    Amount Per Serving
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    Vitamin A
    10,000IU
    200%

    Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)
    300 mg
    500%

    Vitamin D
    333 IU
    83%

    Vitamin E
    200 IU
    667%

    Vitamin B1 (Thiamine)
    50 mg
    3,333%

    Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)
    50 mg
    3,125%

    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride)
    50 mg
    2,500%

    Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin)
    50 mcg
    833%

    Patothenic Acid (Calcium Panthothenate)
    50 mg
    500%

    Niacin (Niacinamide)
    25 mg
    125%

    Biotin
    25 mcg
    8%

    Folic Acid (Folate)
    50 mcg
    13%

    Calcium (From Calcium Carbonate)
    250 mg
    25%

    Magnesium (Magnesium Oxide)
    150 mg
    38%

    Iodine (as Kelp)
    50 mcg
    33%

    Zinc (As Zinc Citrate)
    10 mg
    67%

    Potassium (Potassium Chloride)
    50 mg
    1%

    Copper (As Copper Gluconate)
    50 mg
    3%

    Chromium (As Chromium GTF)
    50 mcg
    42%

    Recommended Use


    Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement take 1 serving (4 capsules) daily with food.

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    Tasty multi.

    Would like to see more methyl b12 and methyl folic acid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Tasty multi.

    Would like to see more methyl b12 and methyl folic acid.
    aye
    methylcobalamin exclusion is about the only thing i'd change personally, but imo this formulation is pretty damn solid
    i've never seen a formula quite like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Kleen... I honestly wish I had more so I could send you some, but we found 2 bottles in the warehouse and Snags was asking for it previously, so I was happy to be able to send it to him. I do know that sometime this year, no dates have been announced to me yet, but we are going to reformulate the EPI-V and it is supposed to be an even more aggressive, yet safe formula for pre-contest style shredding, I can't wait!!!
    This is interesting. Keep me updated Al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Tasty multi.

    Would like to see more methyl b12 and methyl folic acid.

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    Same^^ and that is a lot of B6 as well
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    Egg McSnag has become the default breakfast of choice.
    625cal total w/ grapefruit



    5oz 96% lean beef
    1 slice 2% low-fat cheese
    2 whole eggs
    2 slices 15-grain bread



    i now eat this thing with a fork - so much easier
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    incredible, awesome, inspired leg session materialized this day..
    i made my ancestors proud, with the effort.

    leg extensions/ATG BB squats/RDLs/lying leg curls ss w/ standing BB calf raises were the order of the day

    these last couple days i have felt just incredibly refreshed, renewed, and re-energized..
    could possibly coincide with the starting of G8?
    sleep has been absolutely WONDERFUL esp these last two nights..feeling better than i have in a long while.

    new avi pic btw is current pic of the back.
    in hiding right now until i unleash the new physique on the world.
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    Excellent Snags! Back looks money, and so does the sandwich!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    i just thought i'd leave this here.



    ACTIVE MULTI™ is a complete multivitamin formulated to meet the demands of an active lifestyle. ACTIVE MULTI™ is built with ingredients that promote optimal wellness by working synergistically to create a healthy environment in the body.*

    Powered by pTeroPure™ pterostibene and other robust ingredients like CoQ10 and Cissus Quadrangularis, ACTIVE MULTI™ boasts an all encompassing formula that can be used by both men and women to support a healthy and active lifestyle.*

    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 4 Capsules
    Servings Per Container: 30
    Amount Per Serving
    %DV*
    ESSENTIAL AMINO ACID MATRIX
    L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Valine, L-Phenylalanine, L-Isoleucine, L-Methionine, L-Threonine, L-Histidine, L-Tryptophan
    552 mg

    SUPER ANTIOXIDANT MATRIX
    Grape Seed Extract, pTeroPureâ�˘† (pterostilbene)
    60 mg

    MENTAL FOCUS MATRIX
    Flax Seed, Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA), Ginko Bilboa
    210 mg

    LIVER DETOXIFICATION MATRIX
    N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin), Schizandra Berry
    135 mg

    JOINT SUPPORT MATRIX
    Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Cissus Quadrangularis Extract, Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)
    275 mg

    DIGESTIVE HEALTH MATRIX
    Pancreatine Enzyme, Papaya Enzyme
    110 mg

    HEART SUPPORT MATRIX
    Garlic Extract, Hawthorne Berry, CoQ10
    60 mg

    **Daily Value not Established | * Based on a 2,000 Calorie Diet

    Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Gelatin, Silica, Magnesium Stearate, Titanium Dioxide

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    †pTeroPure is a trademark of chromaDex inc.


    Amount Per Serving
    %DV*
    Vitamin A
    10,000IU
    200%

    Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)
    300 mg
    500%

    Vitamin D
    333 IU
    83%

    Vitamin E
    200 IU
    667%

    Vitamin B1 (Thiamine)
    50 mg
    3,333%

    Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)
    50 mg
    3,125%

    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride)
    50 mg
    2,500%

    Vitamin B12 (Cyanocobalamin)
    50 mcg
    833%

    Patothenic Acid (Calcium Panthothenate)
    50 mg
    500%

    Niacin (Niacinamide)
    25 mg
    125%

    Biotin
    25 mcg
    8%

    Folic Acid (Folate)
    50 mcg
    13%

    Calcium (From Calcium Carbonate)
    250 mg
    25%

    Magnesium (Magnesium Oxide)
    150 mg
    38%

    Iodine (as Kelp)
    50 mcg
    33%

    Zinc (As Zinc Citrate)
    10 mg
    67%

    Potassium (Potassium Chloride)
    50 mg
    1%

    Copper (As Copper Gluconate)
    50 mg
    3%

    Chromium (As Chromium GTF)
    50 mcg
    42%

    Recommended Use


    Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement take 1 serving (4 capsules) daily with food.

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    color me excited as hell.

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    Holy fug!!! I had no idea it would be this comprehensive, Fuggin AAA!!! Man!!!!
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    partial dinner tonight..rounded it out with couple ounces sliced turkey breast + rice cakes, 625cals total



    breakfast was..well, you know
    (it never gets old)



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    Ah there's that mustard...
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    i knew you'd like that Doug

    in other news: Lance Armstrong, i am disappoint
    not because you lied (we all knew what you were doing)
    but because you lied for 10yrs and thought we were all idiots, and now you think you're doing justice by rubbing our face in it
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    I knew he wasn't gonna come out and admit everything like Oprah thought he was going to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I knew he wasn't gonna come out and admit everything like Oprah thought he was going to.
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    so i had a discussion with Chris (aka MrKleen) yesterday, regarding dietary intake. he asked me what system i was rolling with now..macros etc..and i realized as i answered him that my log has gone all to hell with lack of direction.

    truth is: i cannot duplicate my diet for anyone, nor dictate any set macros i am using..hell - i cannot even give you a finite caloric level of intake atm!
    the reason? as i quipped to Chris: i have moved to the next evolution in dietary discretion..that is, total intuitiveness of body, and judgement day-to-day from mirror. while that may sound like a step back to some, it is actually light-years ahead of any pre-made protocol out there, as it allows for total control toward my goals, and self-adjustment to attain such.

    certainly, my roots lie in the Beverly International school of thoughts, make no mistake.
    but, i have taken things beyond that, to what works for me. i could care less if it works for someone else, and i am bright enuff to realize i cannot teach this, as it has to be a personal understanding of your own body, and what you are individually capable of.
    best synopsis of what i am doing is: hi-protein all the time, higher fats, with carb rotation..total caloric intake is rotated as well, and not just based daily on overall caloric expenditure (altho that certainly plays a part)..
    it is quite fluid and ever-changing.

    anyway, that said: i have been incredibly busy lately, and will remain so for the foreseeable future..
    my log may not get interesting for awhile, and updates prolly will remain inconsistent.
    but - rest assured guys, there is a plan behind it all, that hasn't changed..all the goals of this off-season are still in play.

    i will update and try to give some info as much as possible, bear with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    so i had a discussion with Chris (aka MrKleen) yesterday, regarding dietary intake. he asked me what system i was rolling with now..macros etc..and i realized as i answered him that my log has gone all to hell with lack of direction.

    truth is: i cannot duplicate my diet for anyone, nor dictate any set macros i am using..hell - i cannot even give you a finite caloric level of intake atm!
    the reason? as i quipped to Chris: i have moved to the next evolution in dietary discretion..that is, total intuitiveness of body, and judgement day-to-day from mirror. while that may sound like a step back to some, it is actually light-years ahead of any pre-made protocol out there, as it allows for total control toward my goals, and self-adjustment to attain such.

    certainly, my roots lie in the Beverly International school of thoughts, make no mistake.
    but, i have taken things beyond that, to what works for me. i could care less if it works for someone else, and i am bright enuff to realize i cannot teach this, as it has to be a personal understanding of your own body, and what you are individually capable of.
    best synopsis of what i am doing is: hi-protein all the time, higher fats, with carb rotation..total caloric intake is rotated as well, and not just based daily on overall caloric expenditure (altho that certainly plays a part)..
    it is quite fluid and ever-changing.

    anyway, that said: i have been incredibly busy lately, and will remain so for the foreseeable future..
    my log may not get interesting for awhile, and updates prolly will remain inconsistent.
    but - rest assured guys, there is a plan behind it all, that hasn't changed..all the goals of this off-season are still in play.

    i will update and try to give some info as much as possible, bear with me.
    So you basically make decisions on calorie and carb intake based on appearance? This is what just about every upper level nutritionist with any merit does with their clients. Usually on a weekly basis they adjust clients Carbs or calories based on appearance or body fat levels.

    I try to do this but I have never been very concerned with being extra lean. I have set my goal for the for the future to get to single body fat. First time since I was 23.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calebsmitty View Post
    So you basically make decisions on calorie and carb intake based on appearance? This is what just about every upper level nutritionist with any merit does with their clients. Usually on a weekly basis they adjust clients Carbs or calories based on appearance or body fat levels.

    I try to do this but I have never been very concerned with being extra lean. I have set my goal for the for the future to get to single body fat. First time since I was 23.
    mmm appearance is but part of it. body comp of course plays a crucial value in my calculations, as one of my top goals is to stay lean..
    but muscle advancements/accrual and recovery also play a part in the equation, as does just plain how i feel.

    that's a great way to summarize it tho, as you said..when i guide my clients thru diet phases yes i make those adjustments, and of course i have experienced it myself in bb'ing preps and whatnot, making continued adjustments to get shredded, but that is where the similarity ends. i have never guided any client thru a lean-gain phase (myself neither for that matter), quite like i am intuitively doing now..i've always used a guideline based from a "book" so-to-speak. and i never considered myself as a "top-level nutritionist" either - just enjoy helping ppl out on the side, small-time, with some philosophies that i know work.
    now, i'm learning my own tweaks and such.

    i don't mean to make it sound complicated (it's not really), but i am pretty tickled with things i have discovered about myself, during this learning experience over last couple months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    mmm appearance is but part of it. body comp of course plays a crucial value in my calculations, as one of my top goals is to stay lean..
    but muscle advancements/accrual and recovery also play a part in the equation, as does just plain how i feel.

    that's a great way to summarize it tho, as you said..when i guide my clients thru diet phases yes i make those adjustments, and of course i have experienced it myself in bb'ing preps and whatnot, making continued adjustments to get shredded, but that is where the similarity ends. i have never guided any client thru a lean-gain phase (myself neither for that matter), quite like i am intuitively doing now..i've always used a guideline based from a "book" so-to-speak. and i never considered myself as a "top-level nutritionist" either - just enjoy helping ppl out on the side, small-time, with some philosophies that i know work.
    now, i'm learning my own tweaks and such.

    i don't mean to make it sound complicated (it's not really), but i am pretty tickled with things i have discovered about myself, during this learning experience over last couple months.

    an old dog learning new tricks..never gets old.
    Very interesting indeed, I do follow a pretty set protocol, but will go on the same criteria, looks, recomp, muscle recovery, etc. to decide when I'm going to add in a high carb day, so more of a weekly look rather than a daily look, but similar none-the-less, now with that being said... sit Snags... sit. Good Boy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Very interesting indeed, I do follow a pretty set protocol, but will go on the same criteria, looks, recomp, muscle recovery, etc. to decide when I'm going to add in a high carb day, so more of a weekly look rather than a daily look, but similar none-the-less, now with that being said... sit Snags... sit. Good Boy!
    exactly man - maybe that's the point i'm trying to get at too:
    it's not based on week-to-week adjustments, rather every single day. no two days are ever the same, in any way shape or form.
    not macros, not carbs, and nots cals..adjustments continuously.

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    It is definitely working and you luckily reminded me of most of the things I already know and had put by the wayside for a while. I am not at the point you are just yet but I know I have someone to look to on the way if I get lost. Better to have someone to bounce the ideas off of that are working towards the same goals. Now I just need to get lean so I can think of adding some muscle in the process...
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    I have a strict regimen but I am quite flexible all the same and it's the strictness that allows flexibility that way I know in advance where I can make adjustments. This can happen on a daily basis. I can eat more, add more activity etc. to alter my daily plan and I calculate on a weekly basis how those changes effect my bottom line.
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    diffrent strokes, for diffrent folks!
    yeah it really is amazing what you can do, once you become intuitive with your body..i been able to get over 200lbs, while keeping bf below 10% (and falling lower/looking tighter every day), and here lately i've been able to anticipate and keep ahead of the changes that previously would take couple days to see.
    all at the decrepit ripe old age of 41.
    sure - learning some hormonal manipulation doesn't hurt - but it's not like i'm juicing or anything.
    these are fairly light compounds i've used. halfway thru pct right now, and still been able to do what i want to do.
    it's just damn cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    It is definitely working and you luckily reminded me of most of the things I already know and had put by the wayside for a while. I am not at the point you are just yet but I know I have someone to look to on the way if I get lost. Better to have someone to bounce the ideas off of that are working towards the same goals. Now I just need to get lean so I can think of adding some muscle in the process...
    was a pleasure to discuss this with you, Chris.
    reminded me of back in the day, and how much alike we think sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    diffrent strokes, for diffrent folks!
    yeah it really is amazing what you can do, once you become intuitive with your body..i been able to get over 200lbs, while keeping bf below 10% (and falling lower/looking tighter every day), and here lately i've been able to anticipate and keep ahead of the changes that previously would take couple days to see.
    all at the decrepit ripe old age of 41.
    sure - learning some hormonal manipulation doesn't hurt - but it's not like i'm juicing or anything.
    these are fairly light compounds i've used. halfway thru pct right now, and still been able to do what i want to do.
    it's just damn cool.
    Sad when this is appealing!
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    Yeah, the things to come with this physique of mine should be impressive to say the least!
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