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    Man you are thick! Look like a bulldog! Way to bulk up!
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    Man that's big...
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    Pic is scary as hell (in a good way). Make sure to post food pics soon bc I have been busy and haven't been able to comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Pic is scary as hell (in a good way). Make sure to post food pics soon bc I have been busy and haven't been able to comment.
    Yah scary that's a good way of putting it
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    thank you, guys.

    hey - just for that, i'll share some food porn.
    Egg McSnag
    onion bagel/whole egg/slice 2% cheese/5oz 96% lean beef
    ~500cals


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    OMG...now I am craving a Bagel sandwich....looks amazing (but I did just lift so I am starving right now ).
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    Fug the next time I have burgers I'm throwin an egg on them. Fuggin A!! Yah Steve pretty handy with the food porn, incidentally did you guys know that it was me who coined the phrase "Food Porn" and it was on, one of Steve's threads years ago. Steve invented food porn and I named it
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    incidentally did you guys know that it was me who coined the phrase "Food Porn" and it was on, one of Steve's threads years ago. Steve invented food porn and I named it
    shoot i don't think i even knew that.


    while we're on the subject tho..another 500cal meal.

    5oz tuna
    8oz sweet potato
    1 whole egg
    2 cups broccoli
    (not pictured: 30g hydrolyzed protein shake, 150cal)

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    Wow, rocking the brick house look, snag!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    Wow, rocking the brick house look, snag!
    thx man! actually, i'm feeling about as mobile as a brick house too!
    more on that to follow...
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    4 weeks in..


    all right so we're 4 weeks in total: first 3 weeks on 1-Alpha alone, the last week on 1-Alpha + M-Sten.
    mostly good things to report..workouts have been great, strength at high levels..libido at a nice level.
    muscle pump all day long. mood has been decent, lethargy has been non-existent..........until now that is.
    this last day or two i seem to be lagging a tad. and today, i had some lower back pumps creeping on. nothing major, but i was sure aware of it let's put it that way. so, we'll keep an eye on that.
    as for growth - been pretty outstanding i think. but that presents a problem too..i awoke today at 208, and it's like i crossed a threshhold and feel too big, too inflexible. i need to shift the diet again (and am doing that today), should be fine. i'd rather stay at this weight and recomp than get any bigger i think.

    making a shift in the training, will look like this:
    1 - quads/calves
    2 - chest/tris (abs opt)
    3 - back/hams
    4 - shoulders/bi (abs opt)
    thinking 4 on/3 off, with off days scheduled when i need them rather then a set day.

    so today, did quads/calves (was supposed to be off day, will make that tomorrow instead)
    did some pulley crossover work as well, been awhile since i've done that.
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    currrent, flexed & unflexed.



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    huge dude!
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    some protein pancakes today.
    (recipe from earlier)



    another bagel sandwich. this one:

    1 onion bagel
    5oz 93% lean ground turkey
    1 whole egg
    1 slice 2% cheese
    3 slices black forest ham



    thing was absolutely delightful.
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    Yah I know what you're talking about there is a place where our body stops feeling athletic when gaining size even though it is mostly muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah I know what you're talking about there is a place where our body stops feeling athletic when gaining size even though it is mostly muscle.
    yes.
    mostly added muscle. i'm holding a bit of water too, and fat is up..
    but all these things will combine to push this feeling of lack of mobility and flexibility.
    208 is rare air for me...i'm glad i'm not playing tennis right now.
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    so no lethargy this morning..in fact, was hellbent on getting some gym action on.
    decided on a simple arm session (since it was an off-day), looked like this.

    standing BB drag curls + tri-focused dips
    preacher EZ bar curls + close-grip bench
    standing reverse BB curls + seated forearm curls
    (no supersets, just casual transitions)

    pump was just ridiculous. i feel hyooge.
    quads recovered fairly well from yesterday.
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    I had a good experience as well this weekend I did some hair removal, and usually I end up looking watery and am a little disapointed. First of all the Cream I used was so fuggin improved over past versions it was crazy. The stuff had 0 bad odor and cleaned me up like you wouldn't believe I am as smooth as a cheerleaders azzz... and wow this time the hair was hiding a lot of good stuff, I am looking fuggin big and lean. I left the stuff on for 4 minutes then just got in the shower and wiped it off and it came of so easy. I will dry out a bit over the next few days so it is going to get good.

    January 03 I am doing my before pics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    January 03 I am doing my before pics...
    big things coming for da Ff team.

    yeah i gave up on those creams long ago..too hairy, i am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    big things coming for da Ff team.

    yeah i gave up on those creams long ago..too hairy, i am.
    I am also extremely Hairy, probably more than you and I have to tell you they are very much improved. Used to be the comercial shyte did not work for me at all, I had to get the Jan Tana stuff. Then I started using Veet and it was almost as good, well now it's way the fug better. Even my coarse chest hair is completely gone. First for me. It does not burn at all, I even left it on my nipples and nothing in the way of burn. It is fuggin cold though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I even left it on my nipples..
    tmi bro...


    interesting. yeah the old stuff i used was smelly and burned like acid..and STILL had to go over it with a razor.
    been yrs since i tried anything other than razor tho, maybe since my first comp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    tmi bro...


    interesting. yeah the old stuff i used was smelly and burned like acid..and STILL had to go over it with a razor.
    been yrs since i tried anything other than razor tho, maybe since my first comp.
    Yah I know the stuff sucked, trick is you put it on thick and don't have to do any trimming every on very long hair. One thing I don't know though is what happens when you use it on shaved areas after years of shaving. My hair has gotten more sparse over the years as this method does that over time. Shaving is another matter so .. I don't know how well it will work. Like I said though my chest har is very coarse... so maybe it's good enough now. I use Veet and it was in a pink bottle which was the new stuff. It's not runny at all and no real odor.
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    Wow you are looking huge Snags good stuff. Funny I too came to the realization this weekend that the time to clean up was now. I am just not where I want to be and would rather be leaner even if it means I lose a lb or so of muscle I kept it for a very long time and even if I lose it I can recover it later. I will be dropping the excess here shortly until I feel comfortable in my own skin then will start the recomp process.
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    The gradual gain has been better for me, I still look bigger and I stayed lean so less to lose. I think this is the way for me to go from now on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Funny I too came to the realization this weekend that the time to clean up was now.
    well i dint come to this realization..i been pretty damn kleen (err, i mean clean) my entire off-season. but boy, have i gone thru some srs structured caloric loads in a (successful) effort to add a bit of expansion on my frame..
    i am far from sloppy bro.
    i just feel immobile when i reach a certain bw. really has nothing to do with bf or anything -- just mass in general.
    on a sidenote: if i did want to just gain pure bulk w/o any conscious thought to composition, i have no doubt i'd be at 250 in no time..srs.
    esp on something like the stack i'm currently running. it's just very easy to gain muscle right now..ridiculous.
    how far we've come in a yr..last yr at this time, physically i was a soft broken-down mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    well i dint come to this realization..i been pretty damn kleen (err, i mean clean) my entire off-season. but boy, have i gone thru some srs structured caloric loads in a (successful) effort to add a bit of expansion on my frame..
    i am far from sloppy bro.
    i just feel immobile when i reach a certain bw. really has nothing to do with bf or anything -- just mass in general.
    on a sidenote: if i did want to just gain pure bulk w/o any conscious thought to composition, i have no doubt i'd be at 250 in no time..srs.
    esp on something like the stack i'm currently running. it's just very easy to gain muscle right now..ridiculous.
    how far we've come in a yr..last yr at this time, physically i was a soft broken-down mess.
    No doubt, not exactly in the same situation. I am sitting at 213.5 now but I have at least 5 lbs more fat on me than you. Makes a big difference in the look. You Sir look like a beast and pretty much where I was at the end of the oral run I was on. Lean 208-210 and loving it. Not referring to you as sloppy by any means. Of course what I was on was not as strong as Ment
    you are going to be looking crazy big and lean when this is done.
    I am the same way on this stuff when it comes to mass gains I have to watch what I am doing and keep doses relatively low on things or forget about it I get way too big.
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    500cal meal..
    2 slices 15-grain gluten-free bread, toasted
    1 slice 2% low-fat cheese
    5oz 93% ground turkey patty + 2oz black forest ham
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    Looks good I never thought to add cold cuts to a turkey burger. How does it taste?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Looks good I never thought to add cold cuts to a turkey burger. How does it taste?
    I do it from time to time as a change up. I enjoy it. And yes I came in just in time for a food picture again.

    Don't know what this immobile feel is about...but bet I would if I ever got to the 200s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    How does it taste?
    snagglicious.


    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Don't know what this immobile feel is about...but bet I would if I ever got to the 200s.
    yeah it's just a general feeling of immobility i get, when i get too big.
    when it gets to the point i can't scratch certain areas on my back, i start feeling claustrophobic or something. uncomfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    snagglicious.


    yeah it's just a general feeling of immobility i get, when i get too big.
    when it gets to the point i can't scratch certain areas on my back, i start feeling claustrophobic or something. uncomfortable.
    Man I wish I had that problem!!!
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    Yeah I am at the point now I have to grab my elbows and pull them to try and wash my back and still have to use a shower brush to get all of it. Happens once I hit about 200-205.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcazo View Post
    Man I wish I had that problem!!!
    trust me when i tell you, it ain't that fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah I am at the point now I have to grab my elbows and pull them to try and wash my back and still have to use a shower brush to get all of it. Happens once I hit about 200-205.
    exactly.



    everything going well, blasted the chesticles this morning..
    weight remains ~208, but getting a lil harder.
    full update coming this w/e........

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    How recently did you break the 200lbs wall? Follow most of your logs but can't recall when it happened. You are gonna hit the 210-215lbs range soon.

    Honestly based on how my morning went I wish the world would have ended. :notsrs:
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    hmmm been awhile since i got past 200, i think back in september.
    been a steady task of firming up the excess as i go, while still creating an environment suited to growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    hmmm been awhile since i got past 200, i think back in september.
    been a steady task of firming up the excess as i go, while still creating an environment suited to growth.
    No doubt, you have grown for certain, and that pic of you at 208 was ridiculously thick and you were still pretty damn lean. So is the new goal around 205 and shredded?
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    ooo 205 @ 5% or so..yeah.
    would be nice.
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    Lookin great. No homo.

    On a side note are ****ing hungry all day ? I see your meals are small so I assume you do 6+ meals a day.

    Especially on anabolics those meals look like it won't fill a cavity lol. Either way great progress and log man. Keep it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
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    Lookin great. No homo.

    On a side note are ****ing hungry all day ? I see your meals are small so I assume you do 6+ meals a day.

    Especially on anabolics those meals look like it won't fill a cavity lol. Either way great progress and log man. Keep it up
    thanks man.
    LMAO on 'won't fill a cavity'..
    yeah i eat 6-8x daily, depending. my meals typically are considered 'smaller' and that is by design, as i try to control insulin levels at all times even in times of bulk.
    plus - being an all-day 'grazer' suits my mentality.
    most times, i have been in the 4k range for daily cals. recently tho, i'm more like 3200-3500.
    i will go back up again, soon.
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    Awesome.


    Have you tried other nutritional strategies? Ie 3-4 meals just curious as it seems with the current research it may be beneficial to keep you leaner and help you keep that metabolism working properly. Mainly your liver still being able to burn stored fuel when the time comes
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