Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing

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  1. Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    Even my 5 days on and 2 off the G8. Still lets me sleep at night even when I don't take it. And I get the addition on the HGH. Snags how do you use yours and how much. I use half a scoop the night before a workout.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348


  2. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Even my 5 days on and 2 off the G8. Still lets me sleep at night even when I don't take it. And I get the addition on the HGH. Snags how do you use yours and how much. I use half a scoop the night before a workout.
    yeah just completed 2 days off, last night was first day back on..the 2 days off were kinda ruff again, but remember i have natural sleep issues anyway, they just were seriously heightened over last month or so prior to G8 use.

    been taking 1 full scoop ~15min before i would like to be sleeping. it hits pretty quick, and so far pretty consistently, but this is prolly the best solid sleep i've gotten to date from use, and most definitely the longest i been able to sleep -- in years. srs.
    9hrs just don't happen for me..feeling incredible refreshed and rested this morning.

    (oh the first day i got it, tried well before i would like to be sleeping, just to check it out..produced a nice calm, relaxed state for me w/o putting me to sleep, which was cool because i wasn't trying to sleep at that time, just wanted to feel the effects)
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  3. Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    yeah just completed 2 days off, last night was first day back on..the 2 days off were kinda ruff again, but remember i have natural sleep issues anyway, they just were seriously heightened over last month or so prior to G8 use.

    been taking 1 full scoop ~15min before i would like to be sleeping. it hits pretty quick, and so far pretty consistently, but this is prolly the best solid sleep i've gotten to date from use, and most definitely the longest i been able to sleep -- in years. srs.
    9hrs just don't happen for me..feeling incredible refreshed and rested this morning.

    (oh the first day i got it, tried well before i would like to be sleeping, just to check it out..produced a nice calm, relaxed state for me w/o putting me to sleep, which was cool because i wasn't trying to sleep at that time, just wanted to feel the effects)
    Funny when I take a half scoop it kinda of picks me up for 15 minutes but once I fall asleep I'm out. Wake up once after 5 hours to p!ss and then I'm out like a light for 2 hours. I only have myself on a 7 hour sleep schedule during the week. So between being 155 and only want to sleep 7 hours the half scoop works great.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348

  4. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Funny when I take a half scoop it kinda of picks me up for 15 minutes but once I fall asleep I'm out. Wake up once after 5 hours to p!ss and then I'm out like a light for 2 hours. I only have myself on a 7 hour sleep schedule during the week. So between being 155 and only want to sleep 7 hours the half scoop works great.
    awesome you have found your niche!
    and all things being equal, i would prolly recommend 1/2 scoop at first for anyone, regardless of bodyweight, just to assess
    would be the prudent thing to do
    very smart of you man, glad you are liking it!
  5. Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    My main thing is just making sure I get at least 5 hours of sleep. Always huge props to finaflex.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348
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  6. G8 is great, it is very hard for me to get up if I use more than 2/3 scoops. Of course I fall asleep about 10:00-10:30PM and the alarm goes off at 3:45AM so that is understandable. I typically only get 5-6 hours of sleep tops. If the alarm wasn't waking me up I am sure 8-9 would be easy with it.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  7. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    G8 is great, it is very hard for me to get up if I use more than 2/3 scoops. Of course I fall asleep about 10:00-10:30PM and the alarm goes off at 3:45AM so that is understandable. I typically only get 5-6 hours of sleep tops. If the alarm wasn't waking me up I am sure 8-9 would be easy with it.
    absolutely man..truth be told, i would not want to sleep 8-9hrs nightly -- no time for that nonsense!
    but my body obviously needed it last night, and was exquisitely timely and restorative, so ..

    in other news...
    i'm trying to figure out what in hell this dude at the top of my AM screen is doing..




    sad thing is, how many of us have seen some **** like this in the gym..
    wow

  8. haven't pushed myself too much here in pct, but every once in awhile (1x weekly maybe during this time) i will test things out on a different bodypart to see where strength levels are at, even tho i have a general idea from feel anyway..

    so last w/e it was da wheels. this w/e i picked shoulders.

    standing BB behind-neck military, 5 sets range from 185x12 to last set 225x6, followed last set 20sec later with speed burnout set of 135x11 before i failed..this was the highlight of the day
    strength levels are fine

    what a bee-U-tee-full day.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    G8 is great, it is very hard for me to get up if I use more than 2/3 scoops. Of course I fall asleep about 10:00-10:30PM and the alarm goes off at 3:45AM so that is understandable. I typically only get 5-6 hours of sleep tops. If the alarm wasn't waking me up I am sure 8-9 would be easy with it.
    Yah that's about my dosing, fuggin stuff is strong, I have slept 8 straight hours on it ...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  10. Sorry Im late

  11. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    G8
    over 9hrs sleep last night
    never happens
    wow!
    Lol me either. I don't know what that feels like anymore.

  12. Great work on shoulders. I think my best ever was 225x3 that is where those beastly triceps of yours come into play...
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  13. That's bull****. Wow those are impressive presses. I thought I was doing good with 185x4.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by calebsmitty View Post
    That's bull****. Wow those are impressive presses. I thought I was doing good with 185x4.
    my natural strong point, upper body
    shoulder presses..bench presses..fairly decent
    squat and dead #s not exactly small, but comaparatively not as impressive lol
    my legs just happen to look good

    thanks for the comment - 185x4 standing presses nothing to sneeze at anyway brogan, feel good about that!

  15. I do. But not as good as I did before I saw your numbers. My goal is 225. Not sure what the strength diff is between behind the neck and front. I always do front presses.

  16. I can feel the strngth in here

  17. You need to have some very healthy shoulders to press that kind of weight behind the neck. Crazy stuff Snag!
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  18. thanks fellaz

    @calebsmitty - i am not as strong on front standing presses as behind-neck, just how it is
    throws my balance/core stabilization off

  19. Out of curiousity how low do you take the bar behind the head do you shorten it bit to keep from having impingement?
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  20. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Out of curiousity how low do you take the bar behind the head do you shorten it bit to keep from having impingement?
    i cannot teach the way i do it, would be a training textbooks nightmare
    i have several variations, depending on what part in the movement i am trying to focus on..
    but for all intents and purposes, i bring down to the back of my neck, is touching the base, before i explode up to lockout or near lockout position
    (every set yesterday for example was done in this fashion)
    i guess it's just the way i am built, that allows me such ROM
    i never have shoulder issues form these, ever
    the shoulder issues i have had, actually come from tennis and the serve (so L shoulder), kick-serve especially, is just hard on me for some reason

  21. Mine get a little impingement with the behind the head press so I stop at the top of my neck / bottom of skull. Most of the time I limit my weight on these either using them during my drop sets or with higher rep training.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  22. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Mine get a little impingement with the behind the head press so I stop at the top of my neck / bottom of skull. Most of the time I limit my weight on these either using them during my drop sets or with higher rep training.
    yes very common in other ppl, from what i have seen
    i do not teach my trainees to do this, and would never advise it..if someone sees me do it and they try it, i caution them on the weight they should use
    kind of like a "do not try this at home" type thing, but it has always worked for me
    just how i learned to do it back as a teenager

  23. Just goes to show what small differences in joint and bone structure to to the way a body is meant to move. Everyone is individual.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  24. my postWO meal today..
    so basically when i carb-up for preWO and then consume dextrose intra, if i also have simple carbs in my postWO shake, then 30-45min later or so i will switch gears and have higher fat intake and reduced carbs for the postWO meal..
    such was the case today



    5oz canned chunk tuna w/ couple TBS salsa
    1 packet sweet & spicy Tuna Creations
    veggie medley
    2 TBS natty PB (one pictured, but 2 were consumed)
    roughly ~400cals

  25. Nice and no need to carb after if you carb intra good thinking!
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  26. Do you do carbs intra starting about 30 minutes after you start lifting so you still get the GH secretion from the lift?
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  27. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Nice and no need to carb after if you carb intra good thinking!
    exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Do you do carbs intra starting about 30 minutes after you start lifting so you still get the GH secretion from the lift?
    off the top let me say - i do not necessarily espouse the practice of intraWO carbs at all
    in fact, is not a regular practice of mine - but rather something i utilize at strategic timeframes
    but to answer your question, yes 20-30min into the workout, and the other component of this is when i am working out for a longer time period than usual
    if doing my (more usual) shorter, 30-40min w/o, then i will have no intraWO shake..
    i may follow this with carb-laden postWO shake..or, i may follow with EAA mixture for postWO shake (or BCAA+SAA currently), then wait 15-30min and follow with carb-laden postWO meal

    again - lots of different things i may do, depending on various factors

  28. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Do you do carbs intra starting about 30 minutes after you start lifting so you still get the GH secretion from the lift?
    Intra carbs ? I would need a nap....
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  29. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Intra carbs ? I would need a nap....
    Same. I do 5g BCAA and beta alanine and creatine intra.

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  30. Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    I don't to intra carbs but currently doing post work out cell shock+slinshot it's a great combo.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348
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