Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Good Run my Brotha, I like the final review!
    thank you Al.


  2. Nice final summation...good luck with continuing the solid training and diet.
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  3. Great review and of course great run. So once I get a bit leaner I am thinking of doing 1 week hypo caloric and one week hyper caloric to slowly add lean mass. Is that pretty close to what you did on the calories?
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Great review and of course great run. So once I get a bit leaner I am thinking of doing 1 week hypo caloric and one week hyper caloric to slowly add lean mass. Is that pretty close to what you did on the calories?
    mmm not really.
    altho there was a pattern intended, i ended up breaking off and just going by feel/mirror.
    the idea tho:
    3 weeks gain, 1 week cut
    2 weeks gain, 1 week cut
    1 week gain, 1 week cut

    not your typical 'gain' or 'cut' phases tho..just kept things clean, altered cals intelligently. 500-1000 over maintenance, then 0-500 below maintenance levels. on off days, i did maintenance level..of course moving carbs around steadily as well.

    altho it was a seesaw protocol, the idea in a nutshell: to stay on the + side of caloric intake as much as possible.

  5. Got ya, it definitely worked well for you.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html
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  6. Good review, I wonder if it was addin the Msten that made things go a little south at the end or too long on 1-alpha ?
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  7. I think probably the M-Sten we have had more than a few people take the 1-Alpha to 6-8 weeks at this point with no issues. On top of that M-Sten is a much harsher compound.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I think probably the M-Sten we have had more than a few people take the 1-Alpha to 6-8 weeks at this point with no issues. On top of that M-Sten is a much harsher compound.
    Good point ... I will be low balling it with heavy Osta use so I should be fine.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  9. yeah i'm not gonna sit here and point the finger all at M-Sten.
    that said - it was most definitely a contributing factor.
    i think i would have been fine running one compound or the other, only.
    also - methylated compounds seem to be a bit harsher on me i am finding, whereas all the non-methyls i've done i've handled extremely well.


    back into the weights today.. busted out a nice lil chest/ab bb'ing session.
    felt good.

  10. Yeah I bet some of the lethargy had to do with 1-Alpha it is a pretty common side of 1-Alpha.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  11. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah I bet some of the lethargy had to do with 1-Alpha it is a pretty common side of 1-Alpha.
    that's what i'm seeing pretty consistently from others.


    in other news...
    so this package came today.
    mmm, tasty.


  12. I'm jealous.

  13. Nice how long will it be before you run the 550XD and EPI-V?
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  14. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Nice how long will it be before you run the 550XD and EPI-V?
    awhile yet.
    i'm excited as hell to try them out, but it's not time.
    March perhaps.

    i did however dive into the G8 to check it out..
    stuff's the real deal, first impressions are good.
  15. Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    awhile yet.
    i'm excited as hell to try them out, but it's not time.
    March perhaps.

    i did however dive into the G8 to check it out..
    stuff's the real deal, first impressions are good.
    Snags that G8 is so awesome. Incredible in fact. Can't wait to hit my epi-v.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348

  16. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    awhile yet.
    i'm excited as hell to try them out, but it's not time.
    March perhaps.

    i did however dive into the G8 to check it out..
    stuff's the real deal, first impressions are good.
    Yah it's really fuggin strong, I still only take about 3/4 of a scoop.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  17. Wait is Epi-v back on the menu... I thought it was being dicontinued.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Wait is Epi-v back on the menu... I thought it was being dicontinued.
    it is.
    i got the last 2 bottles.


  19. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    it is.
    i got the last 2 bottles.

    I thought I got the last of it .. oh well I have six
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I thought I got the last of it .. )
    they dug far to find some, so snags could experience it too.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    they dug far to find some, so snags could experience it too.
    I like how they formulated it to harden and dry you out slowly...makes a big differnce for a watery guy like me.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
  22. Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    Come guys damn, is it march yet so I can tap my 2 bottles.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348

  23. Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    Come guys damn, is it march yet so I can tap my 2 bottles.
    Retailers have some still...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
  24. Snag continues his off-season REDEFINing


    I know. I already bought some back when NP was running the bogo with creatona.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348

  25. Yeah, I will have to go with Stano, Green Tee, Methyl Synephrine and Uva Ursi to lean up for my show. I don't have any of it.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html
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