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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    Thanks Rick if I am not quite as lean it's really hard to tell as I did not gain hardly anything at all. A lot of the fullness is the Crea-trona and eating maintenance that's why I decided to do one more set of pics...

    Thanks runner yah I am really digging the separation I got this year....

    I just use the IF calculator at maintenance and added in my average activity so I think I am around -20 on burn days and +20 on non burn days.. anywho it works out to 3600 and 2400...
    My exact same caloric breakdown : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    My exact same caloric breakdown : )
    Yah I factor my metabolism as a multiple of 10... so that is quite slow..
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    Wow rocked it the fug out this morning ... some bad dieting on the weekend so this was a good start to the week...

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    Some highlights ... Crea-Trona continues to be fuggin awesome, muscle energy volume, I am very impressed. New ignite 2, all the worry is over this is as good or better than dmaa ignite. It seems to get better every time I use it and I am getting stellar feedback from those I gave samples...everybodies a fan. My libido is fuggin legendary, I want to jump everything in site so the DAA is on... still a fantastic PCT experience...Fuggin A !!

    Body composition seems a bit better than what it was on the weekend, think I was holding quite a bit of water .. like I said muscle fullness is very good, I like this bigger more volumized look...
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    Feeling pretty run down today legs are really stiff and tired. Funny I am sleeping more now than ever.. I take G8 3 times a week which is stellar and I am even sleeping well on nights I dont' take it..

    I ate too many turkey sausages yesterday so I woke up holding a lot of water.. it's already clearing a bit... was a bit of a scare when I looked at myself and see my abs start to cloud after so many weeks of haveing them crystal clear... I am not giving them up!! not yet anyway...

    Here is yesterday I got all 3600 cals in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    Feeling pretty run down today legs are really stiff and tired. Funny I am sleeping more now than ever.. I take G8 3 times a week which is stellar and I am even sleeping well on nights I dont' take it..

    I ate too many turkey sausages yesterday so I woke up holding a lot of water.. it's already clearing a bit... was a bit of a scare when I looked at myself and see my abs start to cloud after so many weeks of haveing them crystal clear... I am not giving them up!! not yet anyway...

    Here is yesterday I got all 3600 cals in...

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    Good workout this morning really rocked it the front squats were not perfect as I was having problem with foot placement... and doing still legged deads right after kills....

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    Damn Bro... your logs gain momentum in a fuggin Hurry Yo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Damn Bro... your logs gain momentum in a fuggin Hurry Yo!

    Yep blazin a trail..
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    Yep blazin a trail..
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    Awesome LOG as always DW. Glad to be back with you guys..now let me catch up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Awesome LOG as always DW. Glad to be back with you guys..now let me catch up!
    Thanks

    Welll I am towing the line as usual, great experience this PCT, and it looks like I will be able tto keep my six pack as long as I follow my spreadsheet. I have finally devised a way to tell me how much I can overeat withought gaining much fat. Even if I slip up one week then I can carry it over as a deficit into the next and make it right. It looks pretty air tight so far and if it isn't I will tweak it...

    Still feeling that nice body stim from the Crea-trona ... libiido is still way out of control, that would be the Pure Test and the G8 is working better than ever, I have not slept this good in years... The ignite2 I have grown to love and I think I like it better than the original... everything is coming up roses...

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    Oh and body composition wise I am more full and just as lean same trend. I really believe I can stay around 200 and make ok gains over time. This will have me sitting very pretty come January when I next megarun will start. I am thinking 16 weeks...
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    Oh pudding recipe...

    1 cup of almond milk, 2 scoops of myofusion shake and refridgerate for 30 minutes or longer if you like... fuggin pudding and it's fuggin good!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    Oh pudding recipe...

    1 cup of almond milk, 2 scoops of myofusion shake and refridgerate for 30 minutes or longer if you like... fuggin pudding and it's fuggin good!!
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    Solid nutritional break down DW, big cals awesome macros! I can say that using the Paleo Protocol has really effected my sleep pattern in a massive way (good)...It looks like you are taking a similar approach mixed with LG ideology. I know G8 is the bomb when it comes to sleep, but I was very suprised how much nutrtion effects sleep patterns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Solid nutritional break down DW, big cals awesome macros! I can say that using the Paleo Protocol has really effected my sleep pattern in a massive way (good)...It looks like you are taking a similar approach mixed with LG ideology. I know G8 is the bomb when it comes to sleep, but I was very suprised how much nutrtion effects sleep patterns.
    I made as mistake last night by grabbing some pb before bed... and I tend to sweat a lot when taking fats before sleep...

    I slipped a tad on my burn day not too bad as I had the extra activity to back it up and then some...

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    Yah the cals might seem big to some but they are maintenance based on my activity... most don't seem to eat enough on lean gains I find or some anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    Yah the cals might seem big to some but they are maintenance based on my activity... most don't seem to eat enough on lean gains I find or some anyway...
    You are right about that. Due to the size requirements of the meals, some people don't hit that regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    You are right about that. Due to the size requirements of the meals, some people don't hit that regularly.
    Yah maintenance is a lot of cals even calculated for a endo like me at a factor of 10
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    Quote Originally Posted by masonmarin18 View Post
    Hey Doug what do you use to make these spreadsheets?
    excel I use the numbers I get from ifcalc to set my base for burn and workout days then I set my daily intake and activity and it calculates how much I am over or under and adds it to my free day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    excel I use the numbers I get from ifcalc to set my base for burn and workout days then I set my daily intake and activity and it calculates how much I am over or under and adds it to my free day.
    Like microsoft excel? I gotta figure this ish out lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masonmarin18 View Post
    Like microsoft excel? I gotta figure this ish out lol.
    It's kind of a complicated algorithm but I have simplified it somewhat...

    I put in my numbers from ifcalc for wd's and nwd's based on sedentary lifestyle and a factor of 10 as my metabolism is quite slow...

    These numbers will be used as a baseline for my calculations.. so I add this number to my (cals burned * .8) cuz that is the factor I use to be able to try and make my estimates more real. This .8 is a separate entry called factor cals burned it could easily be entered as something else so the calculation picks it up from the cell as it does the cals for wd's and nwd's. Once I have the total of allowed cals + (burned * the factor) then I simply subtract the intake for that day.

    Here is an example my allowed intake for a wd is say 2800 and I burn 1000 cals that day during exercise...

    2800 + (1000 *.8) = 3600 cals allowed for that day and say I eat 3000 so I subtract that and I burned 600 cals I keep a running total for the week and add it onto my free day. Some days it may be negative. The point is it allows me to think of my diet as a daily average over time. If I go over for the week I have a deficit cell as well that is in the calculation. So even when I get behind I get a chance to eventually work it out and make it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    It's kind of a complicated algorithm but I have simplified it somewhat...

    I put in my numbers from ifcalc for wd's and nwd's based on sedentary lifestyle and a factor of 10 as my metabolism is quite slow...

    These numbers will be used as a baseline for my calculations.. so I add this number to my (cals burned * .8) cuz that is the factor I use to be able to try and make my estimates more real. This .8 is a separate entry called factor cals burned it could easily be entered as something else so the calculation picks it up from the cell as it does the cals for wd's and nwd's. Once I have the total of allowed cals + (burned * the factor) then I simply subtract the intake for that day.

    Here is an example my allowed intake for a wd is say 2800 and I burn 1000 cals that day during exercise...

    2800 + (1000 *.8) = 3600 cals allowed for that day and say I eat 3000 so I subtract that and I burned 600 cals I keep a running total for the week and add it onto my free day. Some days it may be negative. The point is it allows me to think of my diet as a daily average over time. If I go over for the week I have a deficit cell as well that is in the calculation. So even when I get behind I get a chance to eventually work it out and make it right.
    That's awesome, but for some reason I can't figure out how to set it up, looks like pen and paper I shall stay with! lolz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13

    You are right about that. Due to the size requirements of the meals, some people don't hit that regularly.
    I had trouble when I first started LG but soon after you learn to appreciate the large satiating meals. I guess you just need to get the stomach adapted to holding 2000 + calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    I had trouble when I first started LG but soon after you learn to appreciate the large satiating meals. I guess you just need to get the stomach adapted to holding 2000 + calories.

    Yeah, now it's like the opposite, I couldn't imagine my self going and eating 6-7 small meals at 400-500 calories a meal. I'm not even satisfied unless I put down around 1500+ in a sitting haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masonmarin18 View Post
    That's awesome, but for some reason I can't figure out how to set it up, looks like pen and paper I shall stay with! lolz.
    Yah I could send you a sample I guess just have to make it more generic as I am trying to set it up so anybody can use it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah I could send you a sample I guess just have to make it more generic as I am trying to set it up so anybody can use it...
    That would be awesome!! If you ever get that chance it would be much appreciated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by masonmarin18 View Post
    That would be awesome!! If you ever get that chance it would be much appreciated!
    Yah after the weekend I will work on it a bit to make it more generic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah after the weekend I will work on it a bit to make it more generic...
    Awesome!
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    Ok some catching up to do here Saturdays and mondays workout were great, I am not feeling this is a PCT at all, the boys are bigger and firmer than I can remember and lidido is annoyingly high.... Products rock, all the same potency as last week.. I am over half way through and this is a cake walk...

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    Monday....
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    Diet was better this weekend than it has been for quite I while...

    Saturday...


    A little high on the carbs but good for a Saturday...

    Sunday...



    Monday ... stellar

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    Yeah I need to start eating more like you Doug. I like the Paleo approach, but I am going to need to up my calories. It will probably look like some kind of paleo leangains hybrid. Well done on the Macros!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Yeah I need to start eating more like you Doug. I like the Paleo approach, but I am going to need to up my calories. It will probably look like some kind of paleo leangains hybrid. Well done on the Macros!
    Yah I am going to open up to this kind of thinkng as well, I sort of already have a bit of a hybrid going... I have to learn how to eat to harden up and also manage water better... but that is more of a final stages thing... Maintenance is to be more for comfort level while gaining some size and not effecting the scales greatly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    Yah I am going to open up to this kind of thinkng as well, I sort of already have a bit of a hybrid going... I have to learn how to eat to harden up and also manage water better... but that is more of a final stages thing... Maintenance is to be more for comfort level while gaining some size and not effecting the scales greatly...
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    Is it just me or do dogs charts not work on anyone else's phone? All I get is a few letters and numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000
    Is it just me or do dogs charts not work on anyone else's phone? All I get is a few letters and numbers.
    Yeah man charts and graphs don't work on my phone either. They look so nice on the website, but for some reason don't carry over to the app. It would be great if they spent some more time getting the app right I feel like a lot of people use it...some more than the website.
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