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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball View Post
    I am confused about yalls Epi V Product. I am about to start it next week.

    I have taken Epistane once before and I didnt notice much until I dosed it higher. 30MG minimum. I weigh 225 so it took a little more to do the job I guess.

    I read Epi V does not contain EPI that is why I am confused.... I want to make sure I dose it high enough to get results. SO what would be the equivalent of 30-50 mg of epistane with Epi-V?
    Like I keep saying Epi-v is not epistane it's a totally different product... 2 to 4 pills ed based on ph experience...
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    not bad


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    that's a before and after picture in 90 days or so...I also used the epi-v but I created my own diet and exercises since I'm not fortunate to be sponsored. start weight: 319 lbs with a 35% body fat. current weight in picture: 197 lbs. with a 17% body fat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erick725
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    that's a before and after picture in 90 days or so...I also used the epi-v but I created my own diet and exercises since I'm not fortunate to be sponsored. start weight: 319 lbs with a 35% body fat. current weight in picture: 197 lbs. with a 17% body fat
    How much epi v did u use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erick725 View Post
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    that's a before and after picture in 90 days or so...I also used the epi-v but I created my own diet and exercises since I'm not fortunate to be sponsored. start weight: 319 lbs with a 35% body fat. current weight in picture: 197 lbs. with a 17% body fat
    Oh my God, I have done some remarkable things with my body over the years but I can't touch this one... 122 lbs in 90 days and 18% body fat...!!

    Epi-v is crazy good though, I went down to 6% effortlessly and was eating for recomp really 3200 2400 which is actually over maintenance for me..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    Oh my God, I have done some remarkable things with my body over the years but I can't touch this one... 122 lbs in 90 days and 18% body fat...!!

    Epi-v is crazy good though, I went down to 6% effortlessly and was eating for recomp really 3200 2400 which is actually over maintenance for me..
    Amen. That's amazing for sure.
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    FUGGING AMAZING...GO DOOD GO!! Looks less than 17% great transformation my friend!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erick725 View Post
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    that's a before and after picture in 90 days or so...I also used the epi-v but I created my own diet and exercises since I'm not fortunate to be sponsored. start weight: 319 lbs with a 35% body fat. current weight in picture: 197 lbs. with a 17% body fat
    Erick... That is Amazing Bro, nothing short of Amazing!!! Can you please give people a little more information? Just a generalized day of your diet, sample of your weekly workout routine, how much EPI-V you took, how much and favorite type of cardio, just some details that will help others duplicate your results, we would all appreciate it Bro! Also... contact me again via email and I'll talk with the owners about allowing you to do a sponsored Log here on AnabolicMinds for us, no promises, we usually require more experienced Loggers, but if you are willing to give us all that info and allow us to use your before and after picts, I don't see why they would refuse!
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    Didnt realize I was in the 550 thread asking this...Sorry, Hopefully someone can chime in here!

    QUOTE="chedapalooza"]Could I run epi for 30 days in June followed by erase pro for 60 days? I bloat too much fromdaa so I would not want to take pure test.. Any other options?[/QUOTE]

    Bump this.. I know pct black has same AI as erase. So
    I was thinking 30 days epi+any Recomended cycle support, followed by 60 days erase pro + any natty t booster (30/60 days) besides DAA ..

    I was planning on using hghup in June as well, can hghup be stacked with epi?
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    Here's some more details so u can better understand my thinking and planning


    May: anabeta elite+isatest (I have your pro xt here as well for the log )

    June: finaflex epi v+hghup+division 1(don't HAVE TO USE, have30 caps left, would dose 1 a day)+Cycle support?

    July: erasepro(pct) +anabeta+(need test booster for pct or is epro enough?

    August: erasepro (end aug 20)+anabeta+ endosurge (start aug 21)

    The question is revolving around using epi v. I know I need a cycle support, as well as a post cycle. I DO NOT want to use any daa for test boosting bc this is for a summer cut and daa bloats me too much. This means I cannot use fina pct black or pure test as you recommend. (sorry guys) Also, is there an issue with the cortisol control blend in epi and using erase pro for this long following epi? As well as with using the anabeta elite (has cortisol control) prior to epi? I'd really love to use the epi to peak for July and then mAintain my results thru mid august when summer slowly slips away from CT!
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    I actually look @ 550 & EPI-V for my next mild cycle. I admit it is something I want to try, I chose something just a bit more stronger, but I definitely have my eye on epi v in the future. The safety of it not being a methyl is a huge plus as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I actually look @ 550 & EPI-V for my next mild cycle. I admit it is something I want to try, I chose something just a bit more stronger, but I definitely have my eye on epi v in the future. The safety of it not being a methyl is a huge plus as well.
    Mild shutdown, recomp, leaning, hardening and drying out there are a lot of good elements here. You can stengthen it by adding in 1-Andro but I will admit that there are probably stonger things out there. The safety trade off is key for myself..
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    Question for a newbie plz...My dad doesnt really let me run PH and I think it would be unwise at my age too, thus I limit myself to knowledge for future stacks and learn as much as I can for future reference in some years that I might actually try a PH.

    I saw your stack from weeks 1-12 and your transformation , amazing seriously, Its basically 6 weeks of 1-Andro and jump into 6 weeks of EPI-V running PCT Black throughout the 12 weeks along with CLA and ALC. So which fat burner is good to stack in the EPI-V 6 week cycle?. What Kind of Liver detox or cycle assist is good to take while on this stack, and more importantly, is a SERM needed for PCT , 4-8 weeks of PCT? WHAT would it be? DAA+AI and a SERM? since you already used 12 weeks of PCT Revolution :/...I just wanna wrap my head around all this Doc , if its not too much a bother. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Question for a newbie plz...My dad doesnt really let me run PH and I think it would be unwise at my age too, thus I limit myself to knowledge for future stacks and learn as much as I can for future reference in some years that I might actually try a PH.

    I saw your stack from weeks 1-12 and your transformation , amazing seriously, Its basically 6 weeks of 1-Andro and jump into 6 weeks of EPI-V running PCT Black throughout the 12 weeks along with CLA and ALC. So which fat burner is good to stack in the EPI-V 6 week cycle?. What Kind of Liver detox or cycle assist is good to take while on this stack, and more importantly, is a SERM needed for PCT , 4-8 weeks of PCT? WHAT would it be? DAA+AI and a SERM? since you already used 12 weeks of PCT Revolution :/...I just wanna wrap my head around all this Doc , if its not too much a bother. ^^
    No serm should be necessary but you might want to keep some nolva or something of that nature on hand.. 4 week PCT with PCT Black and Pure Test should suffice. PCT black as liver detox you could run 1 cap on cycle. I would not bother with a fat burner Epi-v is a comprehensive product and contains some stim and eats cals...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    No serm should be necessary but you might want to keep some nolva or something of that nature on hand.. 4 week PCT with PCT Black and Pure Test should suffice. PCT black as liver detox you could run 1 cap on cycle. I would not bother with a fat burner Epi-v is a comprehensive product and contains some stim and eats cals...
    Thanks , been reading up a lot , I see that also for a leaner approach or a way to just go for lean and strong would be Epi-V and 550 XD together for 8 weeks , followed by 4 weeks of PCT BLACK and Free test! , And this is actually something that I would recomend for a friend haha...he started around the same time as me and he gave up when I leaned out 50+lbs and he messed up his diet and motivation and is looking for a PH express way to leanness xD , I think the stack with ALC+CLA would do wonders on him oO but meh...I'm on a stim break for 4 weeks anyway , thanks for the info DreamWeaver! Much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Thanks , been reading up a lot , I see that also for a leaner approach or a way to just go for lean and strong would be Epi-V and 550 XD together for 8 weeks , followed by 4 weeks of PCT BLACK and Free test! , And this is actually something that I would recomend for a friend haha...he started around the same time as me and he gave up when I leaned out 50+lbs and he messed up his diet and motivation and is looking for a PH express way to leanness xD , I think the stack with ALC+CLA would do wonders on him oO but meh...I'm on a stim break for 4 weeks anyway , thanks for the info DreamWeaver! Much appreciated.
    I would always bridge with EPI-V as it is a strong finisher for hardening and drying out. The finishing touches that's how I use this product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I would always bridge with EPI-V as it is a strong finisher for hardening and drying out. The finishing touches that's how I use this product.
    That is the kind of amazing advice you only get from experienced people who know about this ^^ thank you , much appreciated!
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    Need advice on EPI-V. I'm 31, 190#, 5' 8", about 12-14% bf and looking to do a recomp/leaning cycle. I'm planning on running P-Bold for 8 weeks, and was wondering if epi-v would be good to add for the last 4 weeks. I'm looking for dry lean gains this run, and trying to stay away from methyls. I ran a hdrol cycle last fall, had good gains, but they were wet and lost about half after pct, looking to stay dryer this time.
    I'm going to run cycle assist two weeks prior through cycle, along with fish oil, multi, etc. I already have pct rev black and pure test for pct, along with suppress-c( not sure that I'll need it )

    Basically wondering if I can run epi-v with the p-bold. All I've seen so far is guys running 1-andro along with the P-bold, which I'm also considering as an option.

    Thoughts/suggestions appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal_SS View Post
    Need advice on EPI-V. I'm 31, 190#, 5' 8", about 12-14% bf and looking to do a recomp/leaning cycle. I'm planning on running P-Bold for 8 weeks, and was wondering if epi-v would be good to add for the last 4 weeks. I'm looking for dry lean gains this run, and trying to stay away from methyls. I ran a hdrol cycle last fall, had good gains, but they were wet and lost about half after pct, looking to stay dryer this time.
    I'm going to run cycle assist two weeks prior through cycle, along with fish oil, multi, etc. I already have pct rev black and pure test for pct, along with suppress-c( not sure that I'll need it )

    Basically wondering if I can run epi-v with the p-bold. All I've seen so far is guys running 1-andro along with the P-bold, which I'm also considering as an option.

    Thoughts/suggestions appreciated.
    I guess p-bold is a boldenone pre-cursor ? I would think epi-v sounds like good fit to finish your cycle off...
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    Correct, it is a boldenone precursor. Thanks, I'll pick some up then.
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    Yes my brotha!!! P-Bold and then Epi-V would be an excellent bridge! I actually have two bottles of P-Bold still sitting from when I Repd for Taurus...I think the Epi-V will definitely strip away any of the added water P-bold may leave behind...this actually sounds like a mean little cycle...good luck with this. Oh and you are going to LOVE Epi-V it really is amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Yes my brotha!!! P-Bold and then Epi-V would be an excellent bridge! I actually have two bottles of P-Bold still sitting from when I Repd for Taurus...I think the Epi-V will definitely strip away any of the added water P-bold may leave behind...this actually sounds like a mean little cycle...good luck with this. Oh and you are going to LOVE Epi-V it really is amazing!
    P-bold should not be that wet at all though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    P-bold should not be that wet at all though...
    Yeah...I was actually comparing it (in my head) to Taurus Nutritions 5aOHP...probably should have mentioned that.
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    Quick question about stacking Epi-V. Assuming no underlying conditions, would stacking Epi-V with an EC stack be too much, stimulant-wise? Looking to do a cut for 6 weeks prior to my wedding, and I was just wondering if this would be a safe route to go. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerarant View Post
    Quick question about stacking Epi-V. Assuming no underlying conditions, would stacking Epi-V with an EC stack be too much, stimulant-wise? Looking to do a cut for 6 weeks prior to my wedding, and I was just wondering if this would be a safe route to go. Thanks!
    Yah I think it would and EC would not add that much benefit really...
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    I agree DW...too much going on there with EC and Epi-V. Jerarant...from experience I can tell you that you wont need anything else with Epi-V the stuff is amazing...given the right environment in the body (nutrition)...you WILL be ripped!
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    Whats up guys. Just picked up two bottles Of Epi-V for my first ever pro hormone cycle. I was told to take two twice a day for 4 weeks. Ive been running a targeted keto diet in IF fashion for the past 6 weeks and been having good results, 222 down to 208.

    Haven't lifted for years but gonna start hitting the weights again. This stuff works with Keto to right? Ive tried a super clean high protein, low fat low carb diet and my body just doesn't respond to it.

    Also where is a good place to start a log here? Got one on bb.com but they don't tolerate these supps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinscroll View Post
    Whats up guys. Just picked up two bottles Of Epi-V for my first ever pro hormone cycle. I was told to take two twice a day for 4 weeks. Ive been running a targeted keto diet in IF fashion for the past 6 weeks and been having good results, 222 down to 208.

    Haven't lifted for years but gonna start hitting the weights again. This stuff works with Keto to right? Ive tried a super clean high protein, low fat low carb diet and my body just doesn't respond to it.

    Also where is a good place to start a log here? Got one on bb.com but they don't tolerate these supps
    Now I am not sure the first thing you should be doing when getting back in the gym is your first ph cycle... seems to me you should be establishing your routine then getting your diet in gear and when you start to plateau then consider an alternative. Ph's are for people who have worked hard for a long time and exhausted other avenues of progress...

    Don't waste it on a newbie gains situation where you are going to be making tremendous progress without it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Now I am not sure the first thing you should be doing when getting back in the gym is your first ph cycle... seems to me you should be establishing your routine then getting your diet in gear and when you start to plateau then consider an alternative. Ph's are for people who have worked hard for a long time and exhausted other avenues of progress...

    Don't waste it on a newbie gains situation where you are going to be making tremendous progress without it...

    I appreciate the quick response! Well I am a very active individual if it counts for anything. I am just thinking of joining a gym to add a higher resistance for a bit more growth in some lacking areas. Currently I run/hike/blade/longboard paddle, do body weight exercises 6-7 times per week, sometimes with a added 30lb weight vest. Just really looking for a little more upper body size, mostly arms and chest. But the main goal is to not lose any muscle at all during this cutting cycle I'm on right now.

    I was told that Epi-V was pretty mild and good for cutting and should help me hit my goal of 185 @ around 12% bodyfat. Turning 30 this year and told myself visible abs was gonna be my birthday present to myself. Had em once when I was 18, and right now I am trying to do everything in my power to not fail.

    You are saying not to waste it. What do you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Now I am not sure the first thing you should be doing when getting back in the gym is your first ph cycle... seems to me you should be establishing your routine then getting your diet in gear and when you start to plateau then consider an alternative. Ph's are for people who have worked hard for a long time and exhausted other avenues of progress...

    Don't waste it on a newbie gains situation where you are going to be making tremendous progress without it...
    TwinScroll... I completely 100% agree with DW on this one, I mean he could not be more right... "Nail on the Head" as I like to call it! I personally suggest at least a 6-8wk program to break your body back into the routine of lifting, you will probably find that you continue to add size, strength and drop fat all the while up to 12 even 16wks, which at that time when you plateau, would be the best time to start your cycle of EPI-V. Also, by then you might find that you do not have as much fat to lose, as you will already have dropped a good bit more, that you actually want to bulk up because it will then be winter, or you want to try and add a little more muscle at the same time of ripping down further, which would be a good reason to do a stack (EPI-V & 550-XD). This is our advice from our more than 20yrs of personal experience, we of course want you to buy our products and use them and get great results, but we also do not want you to waste time and money, when it will be better used at a later date, we are looking out for you and your best interest, believe me. A very good reason why DW and I work so well together, because we take our customer's considerations first and by doing so we get life-long customers that know they are dealing with a company and their employees that you can trust!

    I also suggest that in the beginning you give our incredible CREA-TRONA a go, unlike our PH's I do not see any contraindications for a newbie as DW put it to be taking that.

    Good Luck with your quest to better yourself and your body, if you have any further questions regarding FINAFLEX products and/or nutrition and exercise, we are always here and happy to help you, just ask!
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    TwinScroll... I completely 100% agree with DW on this one, I mean he could not be more right... "Nail on the Head" as I like to call it! I personally suggest at least a 6-8wk program to break your body back into the routine of lifting, you will probably find that you continue to add size, strength and drop fat all the while up to 12 even 16wks, which at that time when you plateau, would be the best time to start your cycle of EPI-V. Also, by then you might find that you do not have as much fat to lose, as you will already have dropped a good bit more, that you actually want to bulk up because it will then be winter, or you want to try and add a little more muscle at the same time of ripping down further, which would be a good reason to do a stack (EPI-V & 550-XD). This is our advice from our more than 20yrs of personal experience, we of course want you to buy our products and use them and get great results, but we also do not want you to waste time and money, when it will be better used at a later date, we are looking out for you and your best interest, believe me. A very good reason why DW and I work so well together, because we take our customer's considerations first and by doing so we get life-long customers that know they are dealing with a company and their employees that you can trust!

    I also suggest that in the beginning you give our incredible CREA-TRONA a go, unlike our PH's I do not see any contraindications for a newbie as DW put it to be taking that.

    Good Luck with your quest to better yourself and your body, if you have any further questions regarding FINAFLEX products and/or nutrition and exercise, we are always here and happy to help you, just ask!
    Yah we just have your personal development in mind... sups like epi-v work best when you really have everything nailed down... they enhance what you already know how to do....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah we just have your personal development in mind... sups like epi-v work best when you really have everything nailed down... they enhance what you already know how to do....
    All great suggestions by my pal Scotty Doc, but what would help all the better is to let is know where you stand initially befre beginning a cycle? Dont know your stats? Upload some recent progress pictures and your current diet plan! Everything!!! Yes! Even the **** you thonk is okay for Keto! Also list your workouts weight training and cardio splits with your corresponding diets for those particular training days. Remember... There is no majic pill! No half ass secret to success! You want results? Start with consistency and compliancy! You know how to reach me TwinScroll...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WPChickDiesel View Post
    All great suggestions by my pal Scotty Doc, but what would help all the better is to let is know where you stand initially befre beginning a cycle? Dont know your stats? Upload some recent progress pictures and your current diet plan! Everything!!! Yes! Even the **** you thonk is okay for Keto! Also list your workouts weight training and cardio splits with your corresponding diets for those particular training days. Remember... There is no majic pill! No half ass secret to success! You want results? Start with consistency and compliancy! You know how to reach me TwinScroll...
    Good point all, what I really like is that you don't start PH's till you are a real Vet, tried and true ... this takes years for most of us...then when all your ducks are in a row... the supps work so much better for you... some people are quick studies, some start training when they are very young so by the time they hit their early to mid twenties they may be ready...you have to be the judge of that. In a hurry is a bad reason to use PH's ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WPChickDiesel View Post
    All great suggestions by my pal Scotty Doc, but what would help all the better is to let is know where you stand initially befre beginning a cycle? Dont know your stats? Upload some recent progress pictures and your current diet plan! Everything!!! Yes! Even the **** you thonk is okay for Keto! Also list your workouts weight training and cardio splits with your corresponding diets for those particular training days. Remember... There is no majic pill! No half ass secret to success! You want results? Start with consistency and compliancy! You know how to reach me TwinScroll...
    Yo... ChickDiesel... put up a link to your FaceBook Fan Page so everyone here can see you and that you are LEGIT (Too Legit to Quit) Haha! Pay some respect here gentlemen, she is a personal friend of mine that knows her Sh!t and if you check out her FB link, you will see what I'm talking about!
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    Doug... How much are you weighing right now Bud? Looking Fugging Solid Bro, I mean hard as a ROCK!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Doug... How much are you weighing right now Bud? Looking Fugging Solid Bro, I mean hard as a ROCK!!!
    Weighed in at 195 but that is 12 hours fasted and pretty decarbed, next week I will be carbed up, the rock look is the dht from epi-v
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    I'm looking forward to starting Epi-v. I have a question seeing as though
    This is my first experience with a ph should I try the 4 a day?
    I weigh 200 lbs. have a 15 to 17% body fat. I want to get down to a single
    Digit body fat. If needed I can upload photos and have diet and workout info.
    I'm interested in logging also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush954 View Post
    I'm looking forward to starting Epi-v. I have a question seeing as though
    This is my first experience with a ph should I try the 4 a day?
    I weigh 200 lbs. have a 15 to 17% body fat. I want to get down to a single
    Digit body fat. If needed I can upload photos and have diet and workout info.
    I'm interested in logging also.
    Before I answer how many caps/day, send me as much info as possible... age, height, 200Lbs, 15-17%, diet/nutrition program you will follow, exercise program you plan to follow, and anything else you believe to be of relevance! Photos would be great as well, that way Doug and I can assess how much body fat we believe you have, and your overall body composition, and maybe give you some pointers on a few exercises that will help you achieve your goals/how you want to look.
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    These are My before pictures. I'm 29 yrs old 5ft 9in tall and about 200lbs. My diet has been consistent at about 3500 cals a day for the past three months. On workout days I go up to 4000 as I was trying to get to my current weight.
    I workout five days a week currently as I have spilt every body group separate this month. For my epi-v cycle I will be doing kris gethens dtp 4 week program. I will be happy to post the link If necessary.
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    Yah thngs check out with the pics ... I would run my body fat down 3 or 4 percent more before you start. First time start off with 2 and then move to 3, you probably want to run it for six weeks.
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