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  1. I was doing some reading on another side and the results from EPI-V were pretty significant that I decided I wanted to try i, then a friend of mine said that he heard that if you bot 1-Andro and EPI-V together you can have pretty good results. So my question is; is it ok to take an 8 week cycle with both of them or would it be better to do a 4 week with 1-Andro and then a 4 week with EPI-V? Any help would be great.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by DaBlizz View Post
    I was doing some reading on another side and the results from EPI-V were pretty significant that I decided I wanted to try i, then a friend of mine said that he heard that if you bot 1-Andro and EPI-V together you can have pretty good results. So my question is; is it ok to take an 8 week cycle with both of them or would it be better to do a 4 week with 1-Andro and then a 4 week with EPI-V? Any help would be great.
    I would say the answer to that question lies within you "young Grass-Hoppa" What I mean is it depends on what your ultimate goals are? I am sure you have looked at my 12wk pre-contest log I have linked to on this thread on like 2-3 occasions, well I did 6 weeks of 1-ANDRO and then 6 weeks of EPI-V. My goal was to lose as much weight and retain as much muscle as possible in 12 weeks, the reason why I split them up is because as minimum as it might be, the 1-ANDRO will add a little water, so if you are skinny, no worries a little water is good for you, but if you are heavyset, then excess water can make all the difference in the world to how you look. So why did I even take the 1-ANDRO at all, two reasons: 1) I knew I wanted to run 12 weeks worth of anabolics, they might look the same if you look at the back label, but they are not, the alpha in the EPI-V ingredient changes it to a completely different compound with different effects and different receptor sites, so knowing this... 2) I took the 1-ANDRO when I was in the first 6 wks of my dieting down where I was less concerned with water retention, then switched over to EPI-V for the final 6 wks so I would be as lean and hard at the end of the entire 12 week cycle. If I wasn't trying to be ridiculous and get competition ready in record time and did just one normal cycle, I would have just done the EPI-V with my build/genetics. I mean what can I say... it works for me.

    Here are a few different scenarios for you, hopefully this will answer your original question clearly and completely.

    - If you are trying to remain the exact same bodyfat, but want to put on some lean mass then cycle 1-ANDRO & EPI-V together (1/2 & 1/2). The diuretics in the EPI-V will counteract any water retention from the 1-ANDRO.

    - If you are skinny/super lean and you only want to put on Mass...mass...more mass, then just go 1-ANDRO the whole way and don't even worry about EPI-V.

    - If you are like me and always a little on the heavyset side by nature, then take EPI-V the whole way and don't even worry about 1-ANDRO.
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  3. I might have missed the answer, but are you on HRT?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by spezzy View Post
    I might have missed the answer, but are you on HRT?
    No... I am confused! What have I said in the past that might lead you to think that?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    No... I am confused! What have I said in the past that might lead you to think that?
    Whatsaroid asked you near the top of the page if you were and you did not answer that part of his question. I feel that results may have been skewed if you were on HRT due to consistent testosterone levels, which is why I asked.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by spezzy View Post
    Whatsaroid asked you near the top of the page if you were and you did not answer that part of his question. I feel that results may have been skewed if you were on HRT due to consistent testosterone levels, which is why I asked.
    Oh, my bad, I didn't mean to avoid that question, must not have caught it when I read it! No, I am not on any sort of HRT (hormone replacement therapy). I have taken other things in my past, but during the run of that log I wasn't taking any additional products other than the FINAFLEX products I listed. I agree completely, if I were, it would most definitely skew my results!
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  7. Good to hear. I want to run Epi-V for 2 months, how was your libido? Need to perform haha

  8. Quote Originally Posted by spezzy View Post
    Good to hear. I want to run Epi-V for 2 months, how was your libido? Need to perform haha
    Not sure if it was the 1st 6 weeks on the 1-ANDRO or the 2nd 6 weeks on the EPI-V, but for the last 4 of the 12 week cut phase, Labido was non-existant. Thank you Cialis and Viagra for saving my marriage, LoL

    I was taking the PCT REVOLUTION Black the entire time, but I think I was taking too much for too long and the PCT Black doesn't have enough Test booster in it, not as much as our PURE TEST, which was not out yet when I did that cut cycle. If I were to do it again, I would just add PURE TEST to the mix and I doubt with that addition I would have experienced any drop in Labido!
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  10. hey scottydoc i have a question. im a new member and new to the finafelx family.
    i am taking epi-v and pro xanthine together. i was told to take them 3 times a day (morning, afternoon, and evening right before the gym). is this too much to take in one day? should i cut it down to twice a day? i am also taking no ignite 15 mins before my workoust session. just wondering what your toughts are. appreciate the info.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by michael05 View Post
    hey scottydoc i have a question. im a new member and new to the finafelx family.
    i am taking epi-v and pro xanthine together. i was told to take them 3 times a day (morning, afternoon, and evening right before the gym). is this too much to take in one day? should i cut it down to twice a day? i am also taking no ignite 15 mins before my workoust session. just wondering what your toughts are. appreciate the info.
    Which one are you taking 3 x's a day? I personally do not think you should take either the PRO-XANTHINE or EPI-V in the evening time as it can and probably will mess up your sleep and that is a very important time of muscle recovery and growth that you really don't want to mess with, not to mention... not getting enough sleep at night feels like $hit!

    I'll try to answer your question based on my recommended way of taking those two products together, which work awesome together for burning fat! OK, I would take 4 caps of EPI-V per day (2 caps first thing in the morning and then another 2 caps as late in the day as long as it is 8hrs before you intend to sleep). With the PRO-XANTHINE, it is a little harder to say, because it depends on your present level of tolerance. If you told me you had no tolerance to stimulants, that you have not taken any stimulants in the form of a fat-burner in 3 or more months, then I would say start with just one PRO-XANTHINE cap in the morning, then as you start to build a tolerance, start taking a 2nd cap approx. 8hrs after the first cap, then as tolerance continues to build, up it to 2 caps first thing in the morning and 1 cap 8hrs later, I would not personally exceed 3 caps of PRO-XANTHINE per day! Hope this answers your question, that was the best I could do considering I wasn't 100% sure which product you were referring to when you said you were taking 3 caps a day.
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  12. i was told to take both of them 3 times a day. so it would be 1 epi-v and 1 pro xanthine 3x a day. it would work out to 1 and 1 at 9am. 1 and 1 at around 1pm. 1 and 1 around 8pm which is right before i would go to the gym and take no ignite. i have taken stimulants in the past 3 months. i was on animal cuts in Febuaray. so i would say my tolerance is in the mid range. it just seems like taking both of these 3x a day is to much especially that last dose being very close to the end of day and right before i would drink no ignite. im thinking about cutting out the 3rd dose and just taking them 2x a day. im guessing morning and evening around 4 pm. what do you think?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by michael05 View Post
    i was told to take both of them 3 times a day. so it would be 1 epi-v and 1 pro xanthine 3x a day. it would work out to 1 and 1 at 9am. 1 and 1 at around 1pm. 1 and 1 around 8pm which is right before i would go to the gym and take no ignite. i have taken stimulants in the past 3 months. i was on animal cuts in Febuaray. so i would say my tolerance is in the mid range. it just seems like taking both of these 3x a day is to much especially that last dose being very close to the end of day and right before i would drink no ignite. im thinking about cutting out the 3rd dose and just taking them 2x a day. im guessing morning and evening around 4 pm. what do you think?
    With EPI-V, I would up it a cap a day (4 caps/day total) split it up at least twice. With PRO XANTHINE, well that again depends on your tolerance, if you are doing fine with 3 a day, sure keep it that way, just make sure your 3rd dose is at least 8hrs before bed and you should be fine if you are used to stims, you will know if you can't sleep and then my recommendation is to drop down a pill or just 2 caps in the morning and 1 around mid day, that is what worked best for me personally, remember everyone and their body's are different, so what works incredible for me, might not work well for another, typically I find that heavyset easy gainers, but hard losers like myself all seem to be similar, but sometimes as similar as we might be, others are more or less sensitive to stims than others, see how difficult it can be to give exact advice when concerning a stimulant based fat-burner. This is why I always advise starting off slow and gradually picking up speed!

    Trust me on the EPI-V, you will be happier increasing your dose, with the PRO-XANTHINE, just start off low and slowly increase, play with the dose/time thing to determine your own sensitivities!

    Good Luck and your gonna Love the results! Also, if you have any nutritional/dieting questions, I offer my services to you, or I'll do my best to help you, not my first Rodeo!!!
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  14. hey scotty,
    I have finished my 1-andro portions a few days ago and have started the epi-v. As you know i split my dosing of the andro to 4 times a day with my last before bed. I was wondering what is the optimal dosing times for the epi-v i am doing 4 caps a day?

    just so you know i have gotten up to a solid 164 on the andro and am hoping to keep it all as i have put on 0 fat even though i was consuming a retarded amount of cals.

    i was also wondering what my water intake should be on epi-v? I average around 6 liters a day, but i understand epi-v has a diuretic and i have never tried to help a diuretic flush water. It would be nice to see my skin thinned of water a bit.

  15. thanks scotty that helped a lot.
    i broke it down to 4 epi-v a day. 1 in the morning 1 in the afternoon and 2 before i go to the gym and 3 pro-xanthine a day. 1 in the morning 1 in the afternoon and then another 1 mid evening (4pm).
    On non lifting days should i still take the same dosage or should i cut it down since im not working out?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by michael05 View Post
    thanks scotty that helped a lot.
    i broke it down to 4 epi-v a day. 1 in the morning 1 in the afternoon and 2 before i go to the gym and 3 pro-xanthine a day. 1 in the morning 1 in the afternoon and then another 1 mid evening (4pm).
    On non lifting days should i still take the same dosage or should i cut it down since im not working out?
    Wait??? You are taking a PRO-XANTHINE mid evening (4pm)? What time do you go to bed and is it not affecting your sleep? I mean the EPI-V sounds like a good dose as it has way less stims in it than our PRO-XANTHINE! All I will say is just be careful not to mess with your sleep cycles, I mean lack of sleep can hinder your lean muscle gains, when you sleep is when all your muscle building and recovery takes place, but like I always say, you may know your body and tolerances better than I do, I just warn caution in taking stims too late in the day, please be careful, just looking out for you Bro!
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by dryates View Post
    hey scotty,
    I have finished my 1-andro portions a few days ago and have started the epi-v. As you know i split my dosing of the andro to 4 times a day with my last before bed. I was wondering what is the optimal dosing times for the epi-v i am doing 4 caps a day?

    just so you know i have gotten up to a solid 164 on the andro and am hoping to keep it all as i have put on 0 fat even though i was consuming a retarded amount of cals.

    i was also wondering what my water intake should be on epi-v? I average around 6 liters a day, but i understand epi-v has a diuretic and i have never tried to help a diuretic flush water. It would be nice to see my skin thinned of water a bit.
    OK, I have two suggestions for you my friend. 1) Since you didn't put on a single Lb of fat while gaining muscle on 1-ANDRO, I would place you in the hard-gainer, but easy-loss category. Meaning it is easier for you to lose fat and remain lean than it is to pack on muscle! With that being said, I would increase your calories even more while on the EPI-V. But make sure you increase them with more protein than anything of course. 2) As far as the water is concerned, I would increase your water. I cannot remember the exact break-down of liters to gallons, but when I'm on a serious cut I always do my absolute best to try and down 3 gallons or as close as humanly possible. If you do those two things, you might only put on about half as much lean muscle gains as you did with the 1-ANDRO, but even with the increase calories, you should get much leaner and harder, I'm talking veiny, onion skin, pre-contest kind of look if you are already below 10%, which from what you said you are there, right? If I am wrong with my assumptions, please correct me and I'll do my best to re-calculate a new plan to help you achieve the goals you are looking to achieve, I'm here for you Bro!!!
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Wait??? You are taking a PRO-XANTHINE mid evening (4pm)? What time do you go to bed and is it not affecting your sleep? I mean the EPI-V sounds like a good dose as it has way less stims in it than our PRO-XANTHINE! All I will say is just be careful not to mess with your sleep cycles, I mean lack of sleep can hinder your lean muscle gains, when you sleep is when all your muscle building and recovery takes place, but like I always say, you may know your body and tolerances better than I do, I just warn caution in taking stims too late in the day, please be careful, just looking out for you Bro!
    my 3rd and last pro-xanthine is at 4pm. im in the gym from 8:30-11 and i pass out by midnight. i usually get between 71/2 - 8 hours of sleep before i have to go to work. the 1st time it affected my sleep but in the past couple of days it hasnt.
    What about on non work out days? i lift 5 days a week, should i be taking the same amount of supps on the days i dont lift?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by michael05 View Post
    my 3rd and last pro-xanthine is at 4pm. im in the gym from 8:30-11 and i pass out by midnight. i usually get between 71/2 - 8 hours of sleep before i have to go to work. the 1st time it affected my sleep but in the past couple of days it hasnt.
    What about on non work out days? i lift 5 days a week, should i be taking the same amount of supps on the days i dont lift?
    Yes, I would take the same amount of sups on non-training days, but you may want to change the timing or even skip that 4pm evening dose of PRO-XANTHINE on those days to not interfere with your sleep. As far as the training days, your body seems to have acclimated to it just fine and if it is not affecting your extremely important sleep, then by all means continue as planned! As I believe almost any and every expert would agree, your sleep is most important, besides you burn the most fat when you are in REM sleep, so if it affects your sleep, I believe it may actually be counter-productive in the long-run! Just looking out for ya Big-Guy!
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  20. It seems like EPI-V just went up around 10 bucks on the Nutraplanet site... I wonder why???

    -utr

  21. Quote Originally Posted by UponThisRock View Post
    It seems like EPI-V just went up around 10 bucks on the Nutraplanet site... I wonder why???

    -utr
    I am not really sure, I'll take a look, I'll also inquire if their are going to be any upcoming sales on any of our products NUTRAPLANET.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I am not really sure, I'll take a look, I'll also inquire if their are going to be any upcoming sales on any of our products NUTRAPLANET.
    thx!

    -utr

  23. Hey scottydoc I'm currently taking 1 andro and plan on takin it for 8 wks, my question is I want to run epi-v starting at wk four. Should I drop the 1 andro, or stack the two for four wks.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Hey scottydoc I'm currently taking 1 andro and plan on takin it for 8 wks, my question is I want to run epi-v starting at wk four. Should I drop the 1 andro, or stack the two for four wks.
    First off, that is a pretty heavy sounding cycle, hope you are taking something with liver & kidney support and probably something to block or lower rising estrogen levels if you are going to be on that long of a cycle, PCT REVOLUTION Black has all that in it!

    Next, to answer your question, that depends on what your primary goal is, to just add Mass or to Lean up as well? If you just want to lean up a tiny bit, combine them, if you want to lean up a lot, then drop the 1-ANDRO and go EPI-V solo, but more of it! Either route you go, my above statement still holds true if you are going to be on a prohormone that long!
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  25. Yes I have all my supports in place, but not currently taking anything for estrogen, I didn't think estrogen levels would rise on cycle with this compound.. my goal is to maintain size while cutting. So should I drop the 1 andro now and start the epi-v. Or lower the dose on 1andro and start epi. And cut cycle length to 6 wks.. oh I do have past ph/ps experience. But first run with these compounds

  26. Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Yes I have all my supports in place, but not currently taking anything for estrogen, I didn't think estrogen levels would rise on cycle with this compound.. my goal is to maintain size while cutting. So should I drop the 1 andro now and start the epi-v. Or lower the dose on 1andro and start epi. And cut cycle length to 6 wks.. oh I do have past ph/ps experience. But first run with these compounds
    Like I said in my previous post it depends on your ultimate goal, if you want to lean up a little and still try to add a little mass, then take both the 1-ANDRO and EPI-V equally, if you want to gain as much mass as possible, but not add any water weight or fat, then take more 1-ANDRO than EPI-V, if you want to lose more fat and a tiny bit of muscle then take more EPI-V than 1-ANDRO, and if all you want to do is lose fat and just maintain the muscle, then take all EPI-V!

    As far as a rise in estrogen is concerned, almost every compound that causes an increase in Testosterone will inversely cause an increase in estrogen as well, so taking something to limit, lower or block estrogen in your body is best when trying to staying both Anabolic and Androgenic is important! Therefore I recommend taking a PCT like our PCT REVOLUTION Black, after any cycle of any hormone or prohormone. Hope this helps!
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  27. We all want more Black Series Scotty!
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid? View Post
    We all want more Black Series Scotty!
    I hear ya cluck-n Big Chicken! We are working on a few different things right now, from what I hear... besides the G-6, which will be our next released product, I'm thinking we will be announcing another product or two at the 2011 Olympia... this year, so please hold tight, they are coming!
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  29. Scotty is there a UK distributor for FinaFlex products?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    Scotty is there a UK distributor for FinaFlex products?
    Not at the moment, but I'm going to PM you, maybe you can help me... help you with that problem!!!
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