[DocT]

I'm currently deployed and looking to start a Havoc cycle. However, due to my schedule, I workout at the END of my day as opposed to the beginning. I've read thesinner's PCT post "No Excuses" and Trauma1's "Havoc Write-Up." Should I still take the larger dose at the beginning of my day as opposed to the latter part of the day, when I work out? I'm brand-new to this...having been jaded by the lack of results from Muscle-Tech and BSN products, I decided to start reading and learning...

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by DocT

I'm currently deployed and looking to start a Havoc cycle. However, due to my schedule, I workout at the END of my day as opposed to the beginning. I've read thesinner's PCT post "No Excuses" and Trauma1's "Havoc Write-Up." Should I still take the larger dose at the beginning of my day as opposed to the latter part of the day, when I work out? I'm brand-new to this...having been jaded by the lack of results from Muscle-Tech and BSN products, I decided to start reading and learning...

Glad to hear that you've been doing researching and learning. When i made those sample havoc cycles they were just examples, so you can tailor it to fit into you schedule.

What time of night do you workout? When do you go to bed?

I would still keep the larger dosing pre-workout. However, since you're dosing closer to what i would assume to be bedtime, it MAY cause insomnia type issues. This has been reported in some, but definitley not all that dose too close to bedtime. If this does occur, you can either try a sleep induction product, or you can move the larger dosing to earlier in the day and still have fantastic results.

Show me how you have it set up, and i'll see if i can help you nail this down to best suit your needs.

[DocT]

Wake-u[ is around 1300, workout about 0100, bedtime 0400-0500. Since I started working out heavily (about a month- 2 months ago) I've seen some serious changes. I've lost some fat but gained muscle, moving from 180- 188. However, I've also noticed a nasty surge in aggression. I'm saying this because I am worried that a Havoc cycle could possibly raise my aggression levels and cause me to make poor decisions...which is dangerous for me and fellow soldiers. Should I consider a lesser product like Superdrol NG and wait until I'm stateside to do the Havoc cycle?

[DocT]

Here's what I have set up for purchase:
ADAM by NOW
1000 mg tabs of Taurine by NOW
Super Cortisol Control by NOW
2 bottles of Havoc
DCP/Leviathan Reloaded stack
Hawthorn Berry, 550 mg caps by NOW
Red Yeast Rice w/CoQ10
Gut Health/Java stack
Novadex

[DocT]

OK so nevermind on the Superdrol NG....everyone here says it's junk...but it's more expensive than Havoc...wtf?

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by DocT

Wake-u[ is around 1300, workout about 0100, bedtime 0400-0500. Since I started working out heavily (about a month- 2 months ago) I've seen some serious changes. I've lost some fat but gained muscle, moving from 180- 188. However, I've also noticed a nasty surge in aggression. I'm saying this because I am worried that a Havoc cycle could possibly raise my aggression levels and cause me to make poor decisions...which is dangerous for me and fellow soldiers. Should I consider a lesser product like Superdrol NG and wait until I'm stateside to do the Havoc cycle?

So you've only been training a few months then?

If that's the case, i strongly suggest that you invest in a good creatine and protein supplement to help build a starting foundation first.

The havoc can help you once you've maximized your own potential. You will make SIGNIFICANT gains au-natural and create a solid foundation to build off of.

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by DocT

OK so nevermind on the Superdrol NG....everyone here says it's junk...but it's more expensive than Havoc...wtf?

I beta tested it a while back. It's not junk. I think people just expected a miracle supplement from it. It is a fantastic pre-workout supplement for me anyway. GREAT energy and strength in the gym. I enjoyed the beta testing of it.

[DocT]

Ok, here's what I have worked out.
Rigorous workout, looking into OT
Protein supp- 66g tid
4 meals a day, clean carbs, good fats
high water intake
havoc, 20/20/20/20 with afore mentioned CT
pct to include Mass Fx, Nolva on hand, IE PCT

[DocT]

I've actually been working out for about 8 years. I've only recently decided to put real focus on it because there's not much else constructive to do in Iraq...lol. I do intend on giving it a little bit of time before I hit the cycle, but I ordered it so that it would be on-hand when I felt the time was here. I've already made what are, IMO, fantastic gains, as previously mentioned. I didn't expect to lose so much fat (very noticeable, getting comments from other guys) and gain so much muscle (accused of using roids...wtfe).

[DocT]

In such short period of time.

[Trauma1]

In light of the fact that you have just started back to training, i would continue on the path you're currently on. Maximizing your potential and building a strong foundation are keys to success in the end.

I also suggest that you read my havoc write-up. It can be found in this sub-forum as a sticky at the top of the page.

If you need any help, i'm here to assist you buddy, however i strongly encourage you to take some time and utilize your natural potential first. The havoc will always be there when you need it.

[DocT]

Actually, in light of my environment, I'm going to opt for a pulse.

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by DocT

Actually, in light of my environment, I'm going to opt for a pulse.

I'm not sure i completely follow.

Why is that?

[DocT]

Due to being in Iraq, with the possible negative attention that can be attracted from bulking up too quickly, I think a pulse might be better to space out growth. Additionally, along the same line of thinking, reduction in sides is a pretty attractive prospect. Good logic or not?