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Old 03-19-2008, 07:27 PM   #1
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Androgen Receptor Rebooting?

It's my forum and I'll post if I want to...post if I want to.



Odd...very odd...new hypothesis of mine using some semi-common ingredients and a couple of semi-novel ingredients.

I am up 5 pounds in the last week and a half, and my bench is BACK up to around 360 after a massive falloff when I switched to Hammers.

My arms are around 19.5 inches, up around a half inch in the last 2 1/2 weeks.

No more details just yet, until I confer with some others that are more versed in receptor characteristics.
 



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Old 03-20-2008, 09:41 AM   #3
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You would post too, if it happened to you...
 
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:46 AM   #4
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well this sound interesting.....
 



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Old 03-20-2008, 09:49 AM   #5
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This is something i need horribly. Even taken off months from anabolics doesnt seem to yield the gains anymore i long for! Dsade ill give tree fiddy if you get dis herr to worrkk!
 



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damn tree fiddy, youz crazy 3clipse
Yep right derrr treee fiddy!!
 



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Just had a conversation with someone in the know...seems after we thought about it for a few minutes, and went over some stuff, he says it is entirely possible to sort of amplify first some of the non-primary pathways of androgenic signaling by blocking certain "types" of binding, then when the obstruction is removed, the signal shifts back to primary pathway. Now, whether the signal is actually stronger because of the temporary removal, or the shift in pathways throws everything for a loop, it certainly shows me that I have more experimentation to do to see if I can keep this up.

^^^ confusing as ****, but flying semi-blind here. Human Guinea Pig.
 



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I definately wish i was smart about compounds n the like. I like testin stuff out and if i knew how to or what to use id be doing this all the time, but unfortunately i am not the well versed to compounds that may ellicit actions like this. I guess if i looked things up and so forth maybe. lol
 



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id like to get my androgen sensitivity back. subbed.
 



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Just had a conversation with someone in the know...seems after we thought about it for a few minutes, and went over some stuff, he says it is entirely possible to sort of amplify first some of the non-primary pathways of androgenic signaling by blocking certain "types" of binding, then when the obstruction is removed, the signal shifts back to primary pathway. Now, whether the signal is actually stronger because of the temporary removal, or the shift in pathways throws everything for a loop, it certainly shows me that I have more experimentation to do to see if I can keep this up.

^^^ confusing as ****, but flying semi-blind here. Human Guinea Pig.
So are we hypothesizing an upregulation/increase to receptor count, or increase in sensitivity?
 



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Carnitine (i.e PLCAR, ALCAR, LCT) is rather sufficient in enhancing AR proliferation, as well as protecting against AR oxidization during intense exercise.

It works great, but with the #'s Matt's throwing around, I reckon it's a little something else.
 
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I speculated whether some form of carnitine was in the mix. I pop ~1gm pre-workout of ALC, hoping it'll help increase ARs (and I have a bunch of bulk from NP).
 



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Carnitine (i.e PLCAR, ALCAR, LCT) is rather sufficient in enhancing AR proliferation, as well as protecting against AR oxidization during intense exercise.

It works great, but with the #'s Matt's throwing around, I reckon it's a little something else.
This is definitely a part of it...definitely.

Think counter-intuitive for the rest.
 



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