Havoc Straight/Pulse Cycle Question Thread

SgtP · 03-10-2008, 06:44 PM

how would I dose the retain. as suggested? I've read it is underdosed.

**Trauma1** · 03-10-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtP

how would I dose the retain. as suggested? I've read it is underdosed.

I would follow dosing as directed and adjust as needed.

SgtP · 03-10-2008, 06:53 PM

i wont have to taper it like nolva correct?

**Trauma1** · 03-10-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtP

i wont have to taper it like nolva correct?

You can, but you really don't have too. Maybe taper to 2 caps/day in the last week.

SgtP · 03-11-2008, 07:54 AM

Im gonna go at it without a pure cort control product. Cissus blocks cortisol receptors and DTH helps control it also. I am hoping they will be enough for cortisol control. I might purchase some retain 2 just to have on hand if I think I need it but I want to see how I react without it. It will only save me money in the future.

**Trauma1** · 03-11-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtP

Im gonna go at it without a pure cort control product. Cissus blocks cortisol receptors and DTH helps control it also. I am hoping they will be enough for cortisol control. I might purchase some retain 2 just to have on hand if I think I need it but I want to see how I react without it. It will only save me money in the future.

I say give it a go and see what happens. Good luck with this!

**jpk** · 03-11-2008, 03:51 PM

Hiya Zombie,

Since your so prone to sides with PH's have you considered trying a pulse cycle?

Also, we tend to focus on estrogen control at the end of cycles. In many cases prolactin elevation is the culprit especially in libido suppression. Consider using something for prolactin modulation at the end of your next cycle. Favorites include:

Powerfull
B6
p-5-p
Cabergoline/Dostinex .25mg to .50mg twice a week.

Safe Cycling Z!

**Zombie** · 03-11-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jpk

Hiya Zombie,

Since your so prone to sides with PH's have you considered trying a pulse cycle?

Also, we tend to focus on estrogen control at the end of cycles. In many cases prolactin elevation is the culprit especially in libido suppression. Consider using something for prolactin modulation at the end of your next cycle. Favorites include:

Powerfull
B6
p-5-p
Cabergoline/Dostinex .25mg to .50mg twice a week.

Safe Cycling Z!

thanks for the concern, and advice. well i had bad sides but if you take a look at the compounds they were one of the harshes methylated compounds out there, and i wasnt taking good care of my self. (i was drinking on the weekends and stuff like that). Now im on a more cleaner diet, more support supps and im using common sense lol

Sniper1088 · 03-11-2008, 05:10 PM

Here goes my PCT setup:

Torem - 90/60/60-30/30
DTH
Retain2
Super Cissus
Cycle Support

Figured I have every angel covered right? SERM, test booster, AI, and cort control. Any suggestions?

SgtP · 03-11-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniper1088

Here goes my PCT setup:

Torem - 90/60/60-30/30
DTH
Retain2
Super Cissus
Cycle Support

Figured I have every angel covered right? SERM, test booster, AI, and cort control. Any suggestions?

Just a suggestion that Chuck mentioned to me, start the DTH at 3 tabs/day the last 5 days of your cycle then go to 5 or 6/day after that.

**Zombie** · 03-11-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtP

Just a suggestion that Chuck mentioned to me, start the DTH at 3 tabs/day the last 5 days of your cycle then go to 5 or 6/day after that.

i might also do this since i have like 100 tbas of DTH left from a few days back. it wasnt what i espected but it may help on pct whit activate Extreme.

**Trauma1** · 03-11-2008, 11:24 PM

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i might also do this since i have like 100 tbas of DTH left from a few days back. it wasnt what i espected but it may help on pct whit activate Extreme.

Let me know how you like it in PCT zombo. I plan on using it soon myself.

**Trauma1** · 03-11-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniper1088

Here goes my PCT setup:

Torem - 90/60/60-30/30
DTH
Retain2
Super Cissus
Cycle Support

Figured I have every angel covered right? SERM, test booster, AI, and cort control. Any suggestions?

Not bad, but i'd have the torem at 120mg for the first 3 days, then reduce to 90mg/day for the rest of the first week. Running it 120x3days-90x4 days,60,60,30 should work well. I would definitely have some type of creatine in there too. It will remarkably help you maintain your gains through PCT.