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Old 02-25-2008, 07:10 PM   #1
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upcoming Havoc stack

so I've decided to run the following as my stack:
Havoc- 20/30/30/30-40 (depending on my bodies reaction)
Propadrol- starting the second week of Havoc 30/30-60 (depending on my bodies reaction)/30-60 (depending on my bodies reaction)

Taking in proteins, aminos (Xtend or Universal stuff), Animal Pak and Super Cissus RX & Gut Health

post cycle therapy, well I don't want to get the debates going.

I plan on starting my first dose of Havoc this coming weekend at the Arnold!

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edit: I'm an idiot. Most important of all I forgot to mention Perfect Cycle & 1000mg of milk thistle
 
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so I've decided to run the following as my stack:
Havoc- 20/30/30/30-40 (depending on my bodies reaction)
Propadrol- starting the second week of Havoc 30/30-60 (depending on my bodies reaction)/30-60 (depending on my bodies reaction)

Taking in proteins, aminos (Xtend or Universal stuff), Animal Pak and Super Cissus RX & Gut Health

post cycle therapy, well I don't want to get the debates going.

I plan on starting my first dose of Havoc this coming weekend at the Arnold!

Anyway, that's my plan!

Looks pretty good. I see the gut health in there also.....very nice! This is your first cycle with havoc right? How long are you running the propadrol? This should be a very nice stack, and it's one i plan on running later this year myself. Good luck!
 



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Old 02-26-2008, 07:13 AM   #3
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Looks pretty good. I see the gut health in there also.....very nice! This is your first cycle with havoc right? How long are you running the propadrol? This should be a very nice stack, and it's one i plan on running later this year myself. Good luck!
ya dude, this will be my first run at Havoc. The only other cycle I've ran was Methyl Masterdrol about 3 years ago.
I will run prop for weeks 2-4.
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I will also be cycling Havoc. Was wondering how many Mg's in 1 pill... Is 2 pills 30/mg?
 
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Old 02-26-2008, 06:54 PM   #5
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I will also be cycling Havoc. Was wondering how many Mg's in 1 pill... Is 2 pills 30/mg?
10mg= 1 cap

I hope you are aware of this product before you try a cycle.
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10mg= 1 cap

I hope you are aware of this product before you try a cycle.
Good luck
I'm aware that it's a pro-hormone. I bought a bottle but will not touch it till I have all in order. ( all means the cycle it self...20/30/30/30 I'm thinking will do the trick) and also the post cycle therapy for it.

I'm getting limited help from these post and others but not many seem to care to either share the info or maybe they don't know themselves. Anyways. What i read so far and learned is that the PCT is very important...

My PCT so far is. 1. POST-CYCLE ( Powerlab) 2.Sustain Alpha 3.Cycle support.
I will also add a SERM Nolvadex - (tamoxifen citrate)
This sounds good by reading on the info and by some good people that are helping so far.

what I dont really understand is how to take the SERM, this is because i have not bought it and the instructions might be there. If anyone can help I would thank you.
 
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ok brothers, I will be adding Propadrol starting Saturday to my stack. Do you guys have any suggestions on when to dose it? Should I take it seperatly from one of my Havoc doses or with it?
 
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ok brothers, I will be adding Propadrol starting Saturday to my stack. Do you guys have any suggestions on when to dose it? Should I take it seperatly from one of my Havoc doses or with it?
I'd take it seperately if possible. You can add in fish oils and maybe AX's trisorbagen to enhance overall absorbtion. Good luck with this bro!
 



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misc. update

ok fellas, this is going to work out good. I found out that on April 3rd that we will be having a FREE on site clinic at my employer. This will contain the normal check up with bp etc. It will also entail a blood screening that will tell me my chol, lipid, sugar etc values. I don't think it will show my test levels. Anyway, this will be right at the end of my stack BEFORE I head in to pct. I'm hoping to see that I'm not all ****ed up at this point however I am expecting some numbers to be off slightly. The beauty of this is I had blood work done about 4-12 weeks before I started my cycle and everything was good. Time will tell what this cycle did to me health wise (short term hopefully)


On another note: I will give a BRIEF update tomorrow (after 1 week) of Havoc.
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ok fellas, this is going to work out good. I found out that on April 3rd that we will be having a FREE on site clinic at my employer. This will contain the normal check up with bp etc. It will also entail a blood screening that will tell me my chol, lipid, sugar etc values. I don't think it will show my test levels. Anyway, this will be right at the end of my stack BEFORE I head in to pct. I'm hoping to see that I'm not all ****ed up at this point however I am expecting some numbers to be off slightly. The beauty of this is I had blood work done about 4-12 weeks before I started my cycle and everything was good. Time will tell what this cycle did to me health wise (short term hopefully)


On another note: I will give a BRIEF update tomorrow (after 1 week) of Havoc.
Stay tuned-------------------->
Look forward to the update!
 



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update after week 1

Here is a brief update on things I've noticed at the end of week 1:
-great sense of well being
-strength is already increasing
-muscles are harder / pumped most of the time
-weight is up 2lbs but this could be water
(eating like a horse but adding in SOME cardio, nothing hardcore)
-libido is SKY HIGH

-days 5 & 6 I've noticed some headaches. I'm not sure if it's related to Havoc or not. I've increased my BCAA's big time also since starting Havoc. Perhaps the BCAA's have something to do with the head issues.
-I'm sore as hell. This could be because I've been training like an Animal since starting this. It could be DOMS or something too. I'll keep monitoring this.

Really, that's about it at this time fellas. Today I will be bumping up to 30mg and adding in the Propadrol. Hopefully things will go well without any serious issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me.

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Here is a brief update on things I've noticed at the end of week 1:
-great sense of well being
-strength is already increasing
-muscles are harder / pumped most of the time
-weight is up 2lbs but this could be water
(eating like a horse but adding in SOME cardio, nothing hardcore)
-libido is SKY HIGH

-days 5 & 6 I've noticed some headaches. I'm not sure if it's related to Havoc or not. I've increased my BCAA's big time also since starting Havoc. Perhaps the BCAA's have something to do with the head issues.
-I'm sore as hell. This could be because I've been training like an Animal since starting this. It could be DOMS or something too. I'll keep monitoring this.

Really, that's about it at this time fellas. Today I will be bumping up to 30mg and adding in the Propadrol. Hopefully things will go well without any serious issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me.

PEACE-
Very nice so far bro. I look forward to your progress in the coming weeks!
 



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