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Old 01-28-2008, 06:14 PM   #1
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Arrow Stacking DCP

Just got out of surgery a little over a week ago and figure I am going to kick off my return to the gym with a cutting stack:

DCP + Shred XS + Shred Hardcore + Green Tea + CLA + Fish Oil + Sesamin + Lean Xtreme

Recently noticed my blood pressure has been running a little higher than normal and actually went to the doc and got a prescription for Triamterene-HCTZ.

Interested in feedback on the following (dosages, timings, etc.) and the effectiveness of DCP with less stimulates, which might be easier on the blood pressure, and how to the results might compare:

Shred XS and Hardcore:
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Shred-XS 2 capsules
Shred-Hardcore 1 capsules

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Shred-Hardcore 2 capsules
Shred-XS 1 capsules

Lean Xtreme - 3 caps per day

NP Green Tea extract
- 3 caps per day

NP CLA Supreme Caps - 6 caps per day

Fish Oil - 6 caps per day

RPN DCP - 6 caps per day

Primaforce Sesamin - 2 pumps 3 times per day (using the NP pump bottle)
 
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Looks good the only thing I might suggest is upping the DCP dose to 2 in the am 4 before workout and 2 before bed and maybe lowering the Stim dosage? At least until your blood pressure is in check.
 



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Oh and did you pick up some Flawless for your surgery scars
 



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Why both Shred-XS and Shred hardcore? Seems like those would be what is affecting your BP.
 




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Why both Shred-XS and Shred hardcore? Seems like those would be what is affecting your BP.
Yeah, but I think there is a big difference of ingredients from the original and hardcore.

Other than than that, everything seems good. And I went up as high as 12 caps of DCP a day with no porblem. Good luck!
 
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Thanks for the suggestions and YES! I don't know which I like more, the Java Soap or Flawless. Both are incredible products.

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Shred-XS and Hardcore are two completely different products. I will probably cut back on the Hardcore.

The Shred-XS has a lower stimulant factor, although a greater fat loss is possible with it compared to Hardcore. Hardcore is more of a preworkout stimulant, more of a "wired" feeling compared to Shred-XS.



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So something like the following (dosages in italics and modified Shred-XS and Hardcore dosages):

Shred XS and Hardcore:
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Shred-XS 2 capsules

Ragnarok Mid afternoon (I workout around 5pm)

Lean Xtreme - 3 caps per day; 1 cap before breakfast, 1 cap late morning, and 1 cap before hitting the gym around 5pm.

NP CLA Supreme Caps - 6 caps per day; 2 caps with breakfast, 2 with lunch, and 2 with dinner.

Fish Oil - 6 caps per day; 2 caps with breakfast, 2 with lunch, and 2 with dinner.

RPN DCP - 6 caps per day; 2 caps before breakfast, 4 caps before the gym around 5pm.

Primaforce Sesamin - 2 pumps 3 times per day (using the NP pump bottle); 2 with breakfast, 2 with lunch, and 2 with dinner.
 
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Looks good the only thing I might suggest is upping the DCP dose to 2 in the am 4 before workout and 2 before bed and maybe lowering the Stim dosage? At least until your blood pressure is in check.
When is the optimum time to dose DCP? I think I want to dose every 8 hours 2 with food and I before bed. I like the idea of it working while I sleep, how beneficial is this? Or should I just be taking it before 1st meal, Mid Meal and Last meal?
 
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Take it 1/2 hour before eating.

I think what you are looking for is the following:

You will want to dose first thing in the morning, to get fatty acid release/burning kickstarted. You will also want to take the largest dose preworkout, to take advantage of PLCAR's endurance boosting properties, as well as immediately burning the fatty acids that are released during workout/cardio.

You also seem like you want to take advantage of the fact that DCP, being non-stimulant, will work while you are sleeping without keeping you awake...so again, as long as it is taken on am empty stomach you will be good.
 




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All sounds good...

I am going with the following for DCP:

2 caps before breakfast, 4 caps before the gym around 5pm



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Take it 1/2 hour before eating.

I think what you are looking for is the following:

You will want to dose first thing in the morning, to get fatty acid release/burning kickstarted. You will also want to take the largest dose preworkout, to take advantage of PLCAR's endurance boosting properties, as well as immediately burning the fatty acids that are released during workout/cardio.

You also seem like you want to take advantage of the fact that DCP, being non-stimulant, will work while you are sleeping without keeping you awake...so again, as long as it is taken on am empty stomach you will be good.
 
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Take it 1/2 hour before eating.

I think what you are looking for is the following:

You will want to dose first thing in the morning, to get fatty acid release/burning kickstarted. You will also want to take the largest dose preworkout, to take advantage of PLCAR's endurance boosting properties, as well as immediately burning the fatty acids that are released during workout/cardio.

You also seem like you want to take advantage of the fact that DCP, being non-stimulant, will work while you are sleeping without keeping you awake...so again, as long as it is taken on am empty stomach you will be good.
Thanks, How long do you consider an empty stomach?
 
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Half hour before eating is sufficient...or 1.5 hours AFTER eating.
 




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Dsade made NP order " still pending " when i did it dcp was out of stock! so i did order all the ingredients in bulk, is the same raws that u use make DCP!
 
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Dsade made NP order " still pending " when i did it dcp was out of stock! so i did order all the ingredients in bulk, is the same raws that u use make DCP!
They sell potassium pyruvate?

For the most part, yes...but I should warn you that the powders are VERY messy and crappy tasting. Not kidding here.
 




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