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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I would take PLCAR combined with LCLT first thing in the morning, during workout, and last thing before bed.

    I would take ALCAR about an hour after waking (for the mind-stimulating effects) as well as 2 hours before workout.

    My standard serving of ALCAR is 2 grams.

    for the combo, around 1.5g LCLT and 1 G of PLCAR.
    I already had 100g, stocking up on one more (wish I could grab more).

    Dsade, I'm also picking up 100g of ALCAR from Nutra. I workout in the AM before work, roughly 2 hours after waking up. I usually eat breakfast either as soon as I wake up, or 30min (tops) after waking. I've never supplemented with LCLT or ALCAR before. Could you possibly give me a good dosing for these two here for maximum effectiveness? Is it OK to take with food or best on an empty stomach? I see your recommendations here in the post that I've quoted, but as you can see with my current schedule it's sort of conflicting. Any help or advice you could give would be much appreciated. After reading all the good things people have to say about these supplements I'm anxious to give them a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    I already had 100g, stocking up on one more (wish I could grab more).

    Dsade, I'm also picking up 100g of ALCAR from Nutra. I workout in the AM before work, roughly 2 hours after waking up. I usually eat breakfast either as soon as I wake up, or 30min (tops) after waking. I've never supplemented with LCLT or ALCAR before. Could you possibly give me a good dosing for these two here for maximum effectiveness? Is it OK to take with food or best on an empty stomach? I see your recommendations here in the post that I've quoted, but as you can see with my current schedule it's sort of conflicting. Any help or advice you could give would be much appreciated. After reading all the good things people have to say about these supplements I'm anxious to give them a try.
    Ok...here's what I would do...

    IMMEDIATELY upon waking, drop a gram of each.

    eat 1/2 hour later

    mix another gram of each with your intra-workout drink (or drop right before).

    Do one more gram of each during your drag part of the day (2-3 pm?)
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    Very cool Dsade. Thanks for the advice. I'll be giving that a try come Monday.
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    Dsade, do you think bulk agmatine would go well with lclt, plcar or even gplc? Lookin to add that my my bulk powder mix
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    Im not Dsade but IMO I think Agmatine would be a great addition. Its a great product for pre workout and it enhances nutrient delivery GPLC would be great as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GENOMYX View Post
    Im not Dsade but IMO I think Agmatine would be a great addition. Its a great product for pre workout and it enhances nutrient delivery GPLC would be great as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GENOMYX View Post
    Im not Dsade but IMO I think Agmatine would be a great addition. Its a great product for pre workout and it enhances nutrient delivery GPLC would be great as well.
    I'm not a big fan of GPLC over PLCAR, but definitely like the Agmatine in there.
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    Genomyx-just actually seen the Protocol mix-very interesting and has both agmatine and lclt. Do you have any recommendations for multiple dosings for this throughout the day? Maybe in the morning and another in late afternoon? When my bulk lclt runs out, I will give thi a try
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    Hey Phantom thanks a lot for considering Protocol. Really has been a product we have been developing for a while. Should hit stores this Friday. You can actually experiment with servings to fit your needs for example pre workout wouldn’t be a bad Idea either. Since Protocol is primarily a recovery product Post workout should be a must. Another option is to have another serving of Protocol 15 minutes before the 2nd post workout meal, therefore significantly amplifying the anabolic effect of this meal. Advanced trainees may want to use up to three servings per day perhaps adding in the morning serving. Hope this helps.
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    So pherhaps a serving 45-hr before workout-and one after with a post wo meal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    So pherhaps a serving 45-hr before workout-and one after with a post wo meal?
    I think 45 hours before workout is a bit much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I think 45 hours before workout is a bit much.
    lol meant 45min to an hour. I know you are a fan of SlinSane Dsade, what do you think of Protocol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    lol meant 45min to an hour. I know you are a fan of SlinSane Dsade, what do you think of Protocol?
    I think the formula looks excellent. I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but looking forward to picking up a jug or two.
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    Def looks like a good mix-from the agmatine alone there should be some great pumps/recomp effect, not to mention the great benefits of lclt and the others. I might actually grab a jug and add in my PLCAR to it. HopefullyNUTRA picks it up soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    Def looks like a good mix-from the agmatine alone there should be some great pumps/recomp effect, not to mention the great benefits of lclt and the others. I might actually grab a jug and add in my PLCAR to it. HopefullyNUTRA picks it up soon
    am I looking at the wrong product Sline Sane by Genomyx?

    the label shows the below.

    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 1 Capsule
    Servings per Container: 60

    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    Propietary Blend:

    Gymnema Sylvestre and Lagerstoma Speciosa
    500 mg **
    L-Norvaline 100 mg **

    * Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
    ** Percent Daily Values not established.

    OTHER INGREDIENTS: Rice Powder and Stearic Acid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    am I looking at the wrong product Sline Sane by Genomyx?

    the label shows the below.

    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 1 Capsule
    Servings per Container: 60

    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    Propietary Blend:

    Gymnema Sylvestre and Lagerstoma Speciosa
    500 mg **
    L-Norvaline 100 mg **

    * Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
    ** Percent Daily Values not established.

    OTHER INGREDIENTS: Rice Powder and Stearic Acid
    They are discussing Protocol, which should be stocked at Nutra shortly.
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    thanks for clearing that up . I was lost but now that I reread it its clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Dosage should be 1-1.5 grams 2-3 times a day. I recommend one dose preworkout and one dose pre-bed.
    I just started using Androgel as prescribed by my doc. Would it be smart to use a gram of LCLT first thing AM to go with my application of the gel? Seems like a good time to activate ARs...when that burst of T hits.

    And then put another gram in my pre-workout drink?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJC View Post
    I just started using Androgel as prescribed by my doc. Would it be smart to use a gram of LCLT first thing AM to go with my application of the gel? Seems like a good time to activate ARs...when that burst of T hits.

    And then put another gram in my pre-workout drink?

    Thanks in advance.
    Wheen combined with androgens, I would use:

    Before bed, to give the LCLT time to exert effects upon ARs
    First thing in the morning
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    Do you think there would be a benefit using this with LG's Natadrol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Do you think there would be a benefit using this with LG's Natadrol?
    I honestly haven't looked at that product, yet.
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    Touted as a natural androgen. Which leads me into another question for you. Where can I research these ingredients using the web? Is there a particular site that you could recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Touted as a natural androgen. Which leads me into another question for you. Where can I research these ingredients using the web? Is there a particular site that you could recommend?
    First step is googlescholar and pubmed.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Wheen combined with androgens, I would use:

    Before bed, to give the LCLT time to exert effects upon ARs
    First thing in the morning
    Preworkout
    Awesome. Looks like three grams a day to me (Good thing I bought 3 tubs of it.) Thank you, again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    They are discussing Protocol, which should be stocked at Nutra shortly.
    Protocol is now stocked at Nutraplanet. It contains 1g of LCLT per serving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GENOMYX View Post
    Protocol is now stocked at Nutraplanet. It contains 1g of LCLT per serving.
    I like the looks of Protocol very much!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I like the looks of Protocol very much!!
    as do I!

    Can't wait to see what else they come out with.

    My LCLT question : Is LCLT suppossed to smell a little like rotten fish?

    When i opened my jar i was taken back by the odor haha. I have PLC and GPLC anf neither have this odor so i was just checking to see if it's normal.
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    Thanks guys. Not to mention Nutraplanet has it priced very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    as do I!

    Can't wait to see what else they come out with.

    My LCLT question : Is LCLT suppossed to smell a little like rotten fish?

    When i opened my jar i was taken back by the odor haha. I have PLC and GPLC anf neither have this odor so i was just checking to see if it's normal.
    It's not pleasant, but luckily rather benign tasting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GENOMYX View Post
    Thanks guys. Not to mention Nutraplanet has it priced very well.
    Hell yes it is 19.99! Picking up two with some more bulk LCLT @ 9.99!

    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    It's not pleasant, but luckily rather benign tasting.

    Cool, just making sure and you're right the taste isn't bad (tastes just like every other carnitine- a little vinegary).
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    ^^^ Yeah I almost fell out of my chair when I saw Nutraplanets Intro price for Protocol Really good deal. Let us know how you like it.
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    I hope Matt doesnt beat me up the next time I see him especialy if hes amped up with Thermogum but Protocol is on sale for 72hr http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/g...384-grams.html

    Just thought I would let eveyone know.
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