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request for Eviscerate experiments

dsade

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For all those with Eviscerate, I would like some specific experimental feedback that's already been verified with a few sponsored tests.

Now, for those that bought the final version, I can't say much - but for the beta purchasers - you OWE me. :) j/k

Anyway, works best on either arms or shoulders, but can I get some of you to apply Eviscerate to one of those bodyparts preworkout (about 45 minutes) then work out and observe carefully?

I won't specifically warp feedback by telling you what to expect, so just observe and report back, por favor?


Gracias, mi amigos.
 
I have done arms which gives an incredible effect .
Makes them SWOLE up but incredibly about 30 min after workout also look more vascular as veins coming more to surface
 
Been using it on my arms for about 2 weeks. Some thoughts:

- Vascularity increases within moments, particularly on my left arm. I don't have many veins, but following an app of Eviscerate is when they are most apparent.

- I've been experimenting with applying E to a given bodypart prior to working it; chest before bench day, etc. Does not do much for back, but everywhere else it has been eliciting much higher pumps.

- I have been applying E to my arms regardless of what movements I do in the gym. They have been feeling more worked and more activated no matter what lifts I perform. If benching, my triceps are screaming by the time I'm through. If chins, my biceps are more pumped than my back by quite a bit.

- Also been applying to my stomach. I've leaned out somewhat, though just how much can be attributed to E is yet to be determined.
 
Darn, I won't be starting my bottle of beta for another few weeks. My plan is to use it on my arms and lower chest.
 
I smell a topical NO product in the future.
Nope...better.

This is actually some of the fruit from the original product design that got me into this industry.

Without giving it away, yet, also please watch for increased soreness in the Eviscerate+muscle worked out group.

/sharper people might pick it up from that hint what is likely going on...and it's beautiful
 
...Hmm. Well, my arms and chest have been exhibiting more DOMS this past week. I was attributing it to the higher volume I've begun using, but it could possibly be from Eviscerate. I'll pay more attention to it now that I know to look out for it.
 
Interested in the feedback here.
 
Well I'm gonna hit my back in about a half hour, so I applied some Eviscerate to my lats. Lets see what happens.
Christine likes it on her back. I've been chicken.
 
Well I seemed to notice a little more pump and definition in my back after working out. Not to mention my back was beat red. Well the outside of my lats.

After finishing pull-ups and deadlifts my arms and chest seemed to be a little jacked-up as well.
This morning I had applied it to those two areas.

My next two workouts are going to be arms and shoulders.
 
due to the pain in my shoulder, I've dropped the weight in my workouts & have gone to circuit training w/ weights alternating upper body one day & then legs the following for 4 on & 4 off (shift worker).. Well, I've been putting E on my abs & love handles & any remaining E on my hands, I just wipe on my upper arms/delts. I did a workout the other day that left my entire upper body absolutely pumped!! Granted, I'm using Jacked & bulk cissus, but I think that the E had something to do w/ my shoulders & arms. Next week, I'm going to dedicate one squirt for each arm/shoulder area to see what happens. Might even put some on the legs for the next day!
 
Well I worked arms yesterday. I applied E all over my bi's and Tri's.

It was funny walking around with two beat red arms. Anyways, I was astonished. Halfway through my workout my arms seemed huge. They were so jacked up. I didn't feel tremendously pumped, but my wife sure noticed. She stopped the elliptical to tell me my arms looked gigantic. I don't show much of any vascularity, so if that was the response you were looking for I can't really help. But E does seem to have an effect on the working muscle. It just swells up.

Today is shoulders and traps, so I will be applying E to both areas.
 
I have some of this, can i not use it on my abs thats the only fat i need to worry about getting off on my lower 2 abs
 
I have some of this, can i not use it on my abs thats the only fat i need to worry about getting off on my lower 2 abs

of course it works on abs...we are just exploring alternate uses.
 
Well I worked arms yesterday. I applied E all over my bi's and Tri's.

It was funny walking around with two beat red arms. Anyways, I was astonished. Halfway through my workout my arms seemed huge. They were so jacked up. I didn't feel tremendously pumped, but my wife sure noticed. She stopped the elliptical to tell me my arms looked gigantic. I don't show much of any vascularity, so if that was the response you were looking for I can't really help. But E does seem to have an effect on the working muscle. It just swells up.
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Roughly how long did the pump last? Did it affect local recovery?
 
Roughly how long did the pump last? Did it affect local recovery?

Roughly how long did the pump last? Through the duration of the workout. When I was done they still stayed pumped, but not like when I was training. It seemed like working the muscle caused the E to ignite (so to speak). My arms would become really red and engorged with blood.

Did it affect local recovery?You mean recovery between sets or how do my arms feel today?
They are sore, not extremely. My arms only get really sore if I completely change up my routine.
 
Thank you.
 
Well today was shoulder day. I applied a thin layer of E all-around my shoulder, also covering my traps,

Once again, E seems to have an effect on that working muscle. My shoulders and traps swelled right up. Unless its just the appears to color of the skin is giving. Its kinda strange. Definitely in a good way. Whats funny is how the redness seems to come and go. When I finish a set the skin is beat red, and it fades after about 2min. I don't go that long in between sets so I constantly look like a fire truck.

I'm curious Matt. What was it you were looking for?
 
Did my normal dosing of E on the abs and added some to only my right tri. Did my chest/tri workout 3 hrs later.

Did a fairly heavy (pyramid to 3RM) bench session followed by 3 different 10x10s with 30 sec of rest between sets. Right tri felt hugely (and almost uncomfortably) pumped. Stayed pumped after I left the gym and walked to get lunch. Was still pumped 30 min later. Eventually faded but took nearly an hour to get back to normal ish.

Even now (7 hrs post workout) the right tri is significantly more sore than the left.

During the workout the definition on the right was more pronounced. Horse shoe was well defined. Left was meh.
 
....,

I'm curious Matt. What was it you were looking for?

If he tells you what he is looking for, then your experiences may not be distinguishable from placebo.
 
Dsade, ever thought about taking some ingredients out of this for uhh, private uses, similar to slick pleasures?

*wink wink*
 
Dsade, ever thought about taking some ingredients out of this for uhh, private uses, similar to slick pleasures?

*wink wink*

Capsaicin 98%? :biglaugh:
 
would I be better off applying to an already leaner area to see faster results, or to an area I have a hard time getting any leaner?
 
Dsade, ever thought about taking some ingredients out of this for uhh, private uses, similar to slick pleasures?

*wink wink*
If I understand what you are saying correctly, the answer is yes...which is one of the OTHER reasons for the feedback requested.
 
So its not the Capsaicin that is responsible for the swelling?

The capsaicin is a part of it. It's an interplay between pathways...but the one which immediately is apparent is not one you would think.

Somewhere on this board is a reference to the first product I ever designed. The answer is there, but as StratM mentioned, too much info this early will throw off feedback, even in the most sincere testers.
 
Is the feedback your looking for something that aids with continued use in an area? Or just how the working area reacts to a one-time use?
 
Is the feedback your looking for something that aids with continued use in an area? Or just how the working area reacts to a one-time use?

definitely continued use.
 
Posted this in the other E thread. Cross posting here:

Did traps today. Applied E to traps, delts and arms. Massive pump. After the heavy sets my traps looked twice the normal size. I never get pumped on heavy sets. Same heat and milder redness. Been on for two weeks (abs only - abs no longer get red. Just sweat.)

DOMS is more pronounced (same as I reported on tris when I did that monday.) Overall they just feel harder/denser PWO. At 2 hrs PWO its still noticeably denser.
 
Posted this in the other E thread. Cross posting here:

Did traps today. Applied E to traps, delts and arms. Massive pump. After the heavy sets my traps looked twice the normal size. I never get pumped on heavy sets. Same heat and milder redness. Been on for two weeks (abs only - abs no longer get red. Just sweat.)

DOMS is more pronounced (same as I reported on tris when I did that monday.) Overall they just feel harder/denser PWO. At 2 hrs PWO its still noticeably denser.

Looking VERY much forward to my arm day. My vascular tissue seems WAY more responsive.
 
I didn't add it to this weeks leg workout but I'm curious how my calves will respond. I'm one of those genetic freaks with calves 2" larger than my arms despite rarely training them.

I'll let you know how that goes. Assuming I can actually walk after.
 
I didn't add it to this weeks leg workout but I'm curious how my calves will respond. I'm one of those genetic freaks with calves 2" larger than my arms despite rarely training them.

I'll let you know how that goes. Assuming I can actually walk after.

I might try this too. I have a sneaking suspicion that this might allow me to train calves harder and longer without cramping.
 
I might try this too. I have a sneaking suspicion that this might allow me to train calves harder and longer without cramping.

I noticed that on shoulders today. Did upright rows after heavy DB presses - PRed the rows. Shoulders felt huge and pumped from the E - I don't normally get pumped until I start raises.

As a nice side effect, I normally get some joint pain from the UR rows but the thickness seems to have helped stabilize the joint. No pain even when I went to 145.

Edit: Which is why I picked up 2 more 6ozers to go with the 4 beta 4s ;) This stuff is on my perm list of supps. Do I need to cycle it?
 

At this point there is no evidence to support the need to cycle. However, let your body be your guide.

Watch for decreased efficacy over time - assuming you are accounting for metabolic sluggishness, etc - then take a couple of weeks off.

So far my longest testers are not showing any reduced efficacy.
 
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