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  1. Wuz lookin into the M14-e, and the nasty mass looks like everyone is also lookin into the M14add compounds, look good for bulking, but still lil feed back, yet.

    On another note with Purus showing up(here) with this ban coming, are ya guys worried?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by GRAYHORSE View Post
    Thanks everyone!
    We're finally showing face on the internet and not just store fronts.
    nice to see you here Greg!!!

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by lean View Post
    ya its my 1st 1 what route would have you taken for your 1st run ? im picking up the recycle should i start the day the nasty mass is done? and what is serm lol? but if yall can go to my last post and answer those questions it would be great to clear that stuff up thanks
    I would have taken a singular compound that was very mild like 1,4AD.

    Start the Recycle the day after your cycle ends correct.
    SERMs are Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators..... they are proven in PCT by studies and broscience use. I really prefer to use this vs OTC stuff (though I like combining them with an OTC product like Recycle, PCS or Bio Forge.) Do a little more research next time on PCT and steroids before jumping into the fire.

    As for the diet, the anabolic diet works great, particularly in a cut. But can be very well utilized in a bulk, though may be tougher than a carb laden diet. I prefer low carb diets all around so if I was going to go that route I would still use some Low GI carbs in the morning and Postworkout and take my Nastymass product at those times to utilize the insulin potentiators in the product and help the carbs shuttle to where the can be utilized most efficiently.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by lyfespan View Post
    Wuz lookin into the M14-e, and the nasty mass looks like everyone is also lookin into the M14add compounds, look good for bulking, but still lil feed back, yet.

    On another note with Purus showing up(here) with this ban coming, are ya guys worried?
    I have seen a lot of M14add compound reviews on the forums and all seem to be pretty positive as long as you knew what you were getting (the only aromatizable PH). I know of many more advanced users that really love the stuff.

    For now the Ban is still a boogieman from everything I can see. Its being touted all over the boards, yet no literature is coming up to be voted on (that I have seen) and several companies (Iforce, CEL etc) are actually coming out with new prohormones...... I do think that there may be a ban at some point just because it is a long time coming.... but for now it's a waiting game.


    Also I know Purus understands that these may not be around forever and are working on non-PH line ups as well as some newer PHs to com out with. No worries about the longevity of Purus.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Chargerfball25 View Post
    I have seen a lot of M14add compound reviews on the forums and all seem to be pretty positive as long as you knew what you were getting (the only aromatizable PH). I know of many more advanced users that really love the stuff.

    For now the Ban is still a boogieman from everything I can see. Its being touted all over the boards, yet no literature is coming up to be voted on (that I have seen) and several companies (Iforce, CEL etc) are actually coming out with new prohormones...... I do think that there may be a ban at some point just because it is a long time coming.... but for now it's a waiting game.


    Also I know Purus understands that these may not be around forever and are working on non-PH line ups as well as some newer PHs to com out with. No worries about the longevity of Purus.
    yeah, but for thoses of usnot ready to stick ourselves, theses oral compounds are great, yeah there are cons, but these are easily avoided, like you said if ya know what your doing, it all good. Plus if im not mistaken sum of the orals have better bioavailability, then sum injectibles, am i right in this assumption?

    And as far as non hormonals we have all tried the Asteriod stack... and well
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by lyfespan View Post
    yeah, but for thoses of usnot ready to stick ourselves, theses oral compounds are great, yeah there are cons, but these are easily avoided, like you said if ya know what your doing, it all good. Plus if im not mistaken sum of the orals have better bioavailability, then sum injectibles, am i right in this assumption?

    And as far as non hormonals we have all tried the Asteriod stack... and well
    Yes I have mixed feelings on PH to be honest. I love them and has let me not be drawn back into the illegal area of use but then again having steroids so available to ANYONE right OTC has problems that bother me as well. Good and bad as with everything.

    Actually no they don't have better bioavailability vs injectables. Injectables are pure hormone and has very high BV. Oral always has a lower BV.

    Haha I feel you on that. I mean more like fat burners, pre workouts on the horizon....also Recycle is actually a great formulated product for PCT and non-PCT. Seen a lot of good reviews on it. Once PH are gone (if they can be eradicated) the companies will have to work harder to make some quality non hormonal products.

  7. thanks for the info i know i should of done a little more research lol i just half assed new what i was getting into .....now my friends say there working out each body part twice a week instead of once ..ive been doin that for a week now is that good to do or am i over working my muscles

  8. Quote Originally Posted by lean View Post
    thanks for the info i know i should of done a little more research lol i just half assed new what i was getting into .....now my friends say there working out each body part twice a week instead of once ..ive been doin that for a week now is that good to do or am i over working my muscles
    What is your split look like? Rep ranges?

  9. chest/tris .back/bi's. shoulders/legs. each muscle group i do 9 sets and usually go from heavy liftin to lighter at the end

  10. Ok what days do you hit those? Like how do you end up hitting them twice? Same routine?

  11. if im working them out once a week id go mon wed fri but if i do twice a week mon chest/tri tues back/bi's wed shoulders/legs thur break fri chest/tri sat back/bi sunday shoulder/legs and i never do the same routine twice and if i do it twice one half the week im doin much more reps to cut fat

  12. Id just stick with a good routine of hitting them once a week. You could probably hit them twice but that schedule is pretty crazy and would get tedious. Also you still need time to recover.

  13. shoulders and calfs can be werked twice a week, they have a pretty quick recovery rate

  14. Quote Originally Posted by lyfespan View Post
    shoulders and calfs can be werked twice a week, they have a pretty quick recovery rate
    Ya but with shoulders they get a hit on chest day as well so they basicallya re getting hit twice a week indirectly.
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  15. well thats still a 48 hour recovery time for them but i very much agree very tedious when im off the nasty lol i will go right back to once a week and im bout to be a trainer at golds gym so i will be at a gym all the time and will probly do more of a one body part a day routine and i know what your thinking this guy doesnt know **** hows he gonna be a trainer lol but i just know little bout prohormones and that mess but i know my way around a gym

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Grambo View Post
    Ya but with shoulders they get a hit on chest day as well so they basicallya re getting hit twice a week indirectly.
    alwayz like to hit these a lil in between when im too pumped to finish reps on arms and shoulders(i do calfs on theses days), im alwayz tryin to squeeze in a lil more shoulders, alwayz switchin up between the 3 muscles,on the extra dayz(2 try and hit what might need sum more)

  17. a guy at the gym said it would be a good idea if i took prime and powerfull with recycle what do yall guys think??

  18. Quote Originally Posted by lean View Post
    a guy at the gym said it would be a good idea if i took prime and powerfull with recycle what do yall guys think??
    Well..... some of the ingredients basically overlap. I think you would be fine without those two additions personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by lyfespan View Post
    alwayz like to hit these a lil in between when im too pumped to finish reps on arms and shoulders(i do calfs on theses days), im alwayz tryin to squeeze in a lil more shoulders, alwayz switchin up between the 3 muscles,on the extra dayz(2 try and hit what might need sum more)
    It would really depend on what your goal is and your weaknesses. I have decent shoulders without going crazy on them but obviously this is going to be very individualized, so it is what works best for you.
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  19. yall said earlier i wont really get bigger while on the pct and after looking through the forums on prime people wer saying they were getting bigger and bigger during there pct with it and the thought of getting bigger after the nasty is bueno so is atleast one of them worth a try?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by lean View Post
    yall said earlier i wont really get bigger while on the pct and after looking through the forums on prime people wer saying they were getting bigger and bigger during there pct with it and the thought of getting bigger after the nasty is bueno so is atleast one of them worth a try?
    Really up to you on how much money you want to spend on PCT. Prime seems to be hit and miss though and may need higher dosing to be the most effective (according to USP). It isnt going to hurt that is for sure.....Keep in mind that Tribulus Altus is in Prime (Along with another ingredient) and it is also in Recycle (along with the one of the main Powerfull ingredients)
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  21. ya i dont want to overload on the same **** good lookin out i mite just use one of them when im finished with recycle

  22. PURUS,
    After my cycle of M14 and Halovar, I will take Recycle during my PCT. Would you recommend any other OTC product or is Recycle enough?

  23. Since this has almost become a pct thread, lol. I thought I would put my 2 cents in worth. I recently finished a six week halovar and e-pol stack where during the last two weeks of both I doubled the dosage and when I came off I went only with Recycle and RPM (applied neutracitacals) and cannot say how amazed I am with my off cycle. I posted on another board (about PCTs) how this time was the easiest to keep my gains from looking all soft and mushy. I look forward to trying the Nasty Mass and M14-E, just cannot decide which one I will go with, any suggestions Grambo? Anyhow, I said all that to say give the Recycle a try and eat clean with it, I like lo carb a few days and then carb load. Seems to work for me.

  24. I`m really intrigued by your M14-E and Nasty Mass. I `d like to give them a go next cycle when I can afford it. Everything looks interesting but those reall caught my attention. Has anyone logged a cycle yet?

  25. i havent really logged i will have before and after picks when im done in 2 1/2 weeks so hopefully yall will see what the nasty mass does im excited as a mofo
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