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- 08-22-2009, 11:18 PM
- 08-24-2009, 10:17 AM
hello purus labs i have some questions ...a few of my friends have taken your nasty mass and there getting great results so i picked up a bottle my self and have been on for a 1 week today they said i shoudnt feel or notice anything till about week 2 is that correct ? also they said that on the nasty mass you dont have to to take a pct is that true lol i was going to take the recycle any way because i heard taking the pct only gets you bigger ....also im thinking of doing the anabolic diet but does that work good with nasty mass since it wants you to take it with carbs all the time and if not whats a good diet plan to get the best results off your product?
id really appreciate yalls help
- 08-24-2009, 11:46 AM
08-24-2009, 04:59 PM
08-24-2009, 08:07 PM
08-24-2009, 11:06 PM
Speaking of diets with certain products, I found that I love waxy maize. I like to go the lo card way but when I work out, I use the waxy maize to fuel the workout and not worry about my body burning my protein shake, it goes to the muscles that are wide open and sucking everything in because of the insulin surge from the Waxy Maize and my energy is coming from the sugar. I also carb loaded on the weekends, pasta, pizza (sometimes), rice and rice and oh yea, did I mention rice. Anyway, as a personal trainer, novice dietitian and pre-pharmacy student I do know one thing, not every thing works for everybody, so read, study and plan and you will get more results than if you didn't. Not everyone can count on genetics, so do what you can to gain the edge and that is knowledge my friend.
Also, I ran this diet with my six week cycle of halovar and e-pol and finished with Recycle and RPM.
I am really stoked about what you got coming for a pre-workout!
08-25-2009, 12:58 AM
08-25-2009, 03:58 AM
hahaha very much agreed i know i was going to take a pct they just said they didnt have to on it there on spawn now and said they had to run a pct for that i told them if you gotta do it for spawn then you gotta do it for nasty mass so i feel yall on that and about getting bigger on a pct i mean if i keep my gains that i get from nasty mass then i can keep gaining easier while on recycle right ?? and yall didnt answer me how long does it take before you start noticing alot i feel like my muscles are always hard so far tho so i gues thats good lol and thanks for the diet info but i need more of like yes are no with the anabolic diet what shouldd i do? also i usually train each body part once a week.. on the nasty mass(oh i love the name)can i workem out twice a week ?
a little about me
im not a scrawnny kid everybody says i look like 210-215 and ive never done any supplements like this and i get asked if i do streroids like 8 times a day and my weight varys i can be 170 185 165 188 all in a 4 week time it just depends how i want to work out or how much cardio i do and what i eat im also getting my nasm trainers cert. in about 3 weeks so i want to start getting huge i will post sum before and after pics when im done
08-25-2009, 02:51 PM
Id personally run a SERM if that was an option for you. Oh and ya.....avoid your friends advice from now on, come to us lol
This is your first cycle I assume? I would have suggested a different compound but oo late now! ha
Id grab some cycle support product if you don't have any (Organ Shield eh Greg? )
*It is very likely you will lose some weight (water definitely) and strength in PCT, it just happens though if you do everything right you should be able to keep most of it particularly the strength. Maintaning is the name of the game in PCT. Just giving you a heads up so you dont get discouraged.
08-25-2009, 07:26 PM
ya its my 1st 1 what route would have you taken for your 1st run ? im picking up the recycle should i start the day the nasty mass is done? and what is serm lol? but if yall can go to my last post and answer those questions it would be great to clear that stuff up thanks
08-26-2009, 12:49 AM
Wuz lookin into the M14-e, and the nasty mass looks like everyone is also lookin into the M14add compounds, look good for bulking, but still lil feed back, yet.
On another note with Purus showing up(here) with this ban coming, are ya guys worried?
08-26-2009, 01:57 AM
08-26-2009, 01:45 PM
Start the Recycle the day after your cycle ends correct.
SERMs are Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators..... they are proven in PCT by studies and broscience use. I really prefer to use this vs OTC stuff (though I like combining them with an OTC product like Recycle, PCS or Bio Forge.) Do a little more research next time on PCT and steroids before jumping into the fire.
As for the diet, the anabolic diet works great, particularly in a cut. But can be very well utilized in a bulk, though may be tougher than a carb laden diet. I prefer low carb diets all around so if I was going to go that route I would still use some Low GI carbs in the morning and Postworkout and take my Nastymass product at those times to utilize the insulin potentiators in the product and help the carbs shuttle to where the can be utilized most efficiently.
08-26-2009, 01:51 PM
For now the Ban is still a boogieman from everything I can see. Its being touted all over the boards, yet no literature is coming up to be voted on (that I have seen) and several companies (Iforce, CEL etc) are actually coming out with new prohormones...... I do think that there may be a ban at some point just because it is a long time coming.... but for now it's a waiting game.
Also I know Purus understands that these may not be around forever and are working on non-PH line ups as well as some newer PHs to com out with. No worries about the longevity of Purus.
08-26-2009, 02:37 PM
And as far as non hormonals we have all tried the Asteriod stack... and well
08-26-2009, 02:48 PM
Actually no they don't have better bioavailability vs injectables. Injectables are pure hormone and has very high BV. Oral always has a lower BV.
Haha I feel you on that. I mean more like fat burners, pre workouts on the horizon....also Recycle is actually a great formulated product for PCT and non-PCT. Seen a lot of good reviews on it. Once PH are gone (if they can be eradicated) the companies will have to work harder to make some quality non hormonal products.
08-26-2009, 05:26 PM
thanks for the info i know i should of done a little more research lol i just half assed new what i was getting into .....now my friends say there working out each body part twice a week instead of once ..ive been doin that for a week now is that good to do or am i over working my muscles
08-26-2009, 05:28 PM
08-26-2009, 05:37 PM
chest/tris .back/bi's. shoulders/legs. each muscle group i do 9 sets and usually go from heavy liftin to lighter at the end
08-26-2009, 07:20 PM
Ok what days do you hit those? Like how do you end up hitting them twice? Same routine?
08-26-2009, 07:47 PM
if im working them out once a week id go mon wed fri but if i do twice a week mon chest/tri tues back/bi's wed shoulders/legs thur break fri chest/tri sat back/bi sunday shoulder/legs and i never do the same routine twice and if i do it twice one half the week im doin much more reps to cut fat
08-26-2009, 08:21 PM
Id just stick with a good routine of hitting them once a week. You could probably hit them twice but that schedule is pretty crazy and would get tedious. Also you still need time to recover.
08-26-2009, 08:59 PM
shoulders and calfs can be werked twice a week, they have a pretty quick recovery rate
08-26-2009, 09:18 PM
08-26-2009, 09:56 PM
well thats still a 48 hour recovery time for them but i very much agree very tedious when im off the nasty lol i will go right back to once a week and im bout to be a trainer at golds gym so i will be at a gym all the time and will probly do more of a one body part a day routine and i know what your thinking this guy doesnt know **** hows he gonna be a trainer lol but i just know little bout prohormones and that mess but i know my way around a gym
08-26-2009, 11:46 PM
08-27-2009, 01:13 AM
a guy at the gym said it would be a good idea if i took prime and powerfull with recycle what do yall guys think??
08-27-2009, 01:21 AM
08-27-2009, 01:49 AM
yall said earlier i wont really get bigger while on the pct and after looking through the forums on prime people wer saying they were getting bigger and bigger during there pct with it and the thought of getting bigger after the nasty is bueno so is atleast one of them worth a try?
08-27-2009, 02:06 AM
08-27-2009, 07:15 AM
ya i dont want to overload on the same **** good lookin out i mite just use one of them when im finished with recycle
08-27-2009, 08:19 AM
After my cycle of M14 and Halovar, I will take Recycle during my PCT. Would you recommend any other OTC product or is Recycle enough?
08-27-2009, 08:56 AM
Since this has almost become a pct thread, lol. I thought I would put my 2 cents in worth. I recently finished a six week halovar and e-pol stack where during the last two weeks of both I doubled the dosage and when I came off I went only with Recycle and RPM (applied neutracitacals) and cannot say how amazed I am with my off cycle. I posted on another board (about PCTs) how this time was the easiest to keep my gains from looking all soft and mushy. I look forward to trying the Nasty Mass and M14-E, just cannot decide which one I will go with, any suggestions Grambo? Anyhow, I said all that to say give the Recycle a try and eat clean with it, I like lo carb a few days and then carb load. Seems to work for me.
08-27-2009, 09:39 AM
I`m really intrigued by your M14-E and Nasty Mass. I `d like to give them a go next cycle when I can afford it. Everything looks interesting but those reall caught my attention. Has anyone logged a cycle yet?
08-27-2009, 10:23 AM
i havent really logged i will have before and after picks when im done in 2 1/2 weeks so hopefully yall will see what the nasty mass does im excited as a mofo
08-27-2009, 12:22 PM
Looks like I was named a Rep just in time lol
How are you stacking those compounds btw?
Also what is your experience? You are talking about 3 methyls.
What are your goals for your next cycle? (this can help me give you the best suggestion between the two)
08-27-2009, 04:05 PM
I always am looking for size but I may be looking to dry out some more before I go to another mass stack. I figured the M14-E would be the best bet for that. But I am most certainly open for suggestions. I tried the toremefine (spelling) on one occasion and didn't really find it to work that well. Maybe I should give it another go before canceling it out.What are your goals for your next cycle? (this can help me give you the best suggestion between the two)
08-27-2009, 05:06 PM
I think M14-E is versatile and could be used for just about any goal depending on diet and training. I think it has some great potential as a mass stack for sure though.
What dosing did you run the Torem? Also how did you feel it wasn't effective?
RC I assume?
08-27-2009, 05:57 PM
it has been a while but i believe it was 120/90/60/30 and stacked it with AP's Drive and 200 mg of DEHA. followed a six week of Halodrol and Propadrol stack of H for 50/50/75/75 and P for60/60/90/90 and of course overlapping in the 3rd and 4th wks. My Torem was ordered via for research. by the end of the cycle i was strong and tight but for almost an entire month and a half later i had been gaining weight (fat) was tired an irratable with the lowest possible moods and NO sex drive at all. Heck, even my wife was mad, lol. Anyway, have not run one since. Sorry i don't know what the RC means unless thats reseach chemical and then yes. Came in a dark blue or purple bottle with a dropper.What dosing did you run the Torem? Also how did you feel it wasn't effective?
RC I assume?
08-27-2009, 06:05 PM
Ya you got me on the RC haha..... I might try one of the other SERMs in that case. Nolva has been shown to be the strongest as far as increasing testosterone. Something to contemplate at least..... can't ahve the wife mad lol
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