Anyone using PMax yet?
- 06-17-2006, 05:15 PM
- 06-18-2006, 08:49 AM
Hi, I have never posted here before which I know is not a good thing for reviewing a product but I want to help people know whether to buy this or not. I am a sceptic who would rather pay 30 dollars for 60 pills that are good then 20 for 90 that may be. I had 3 bottles of PP(the real stuff) on order and in a late night decision I decided to buy 4 bottles of P-MAX. When I woke up the next day and the reallity of things set in I decided to cancell my P-MAX order and stick with what I knew would work, problem was that I couldn't get in contact with prometabolix in time(I called and got a machine) to cancell and I didn't have the money for both so I was forced to cancell the real PP order with the company I could get ahold of(no offense pro I know your busy and not fully staffed). I have only done 1 other cycle and it was a 1-ad for 5wks and SD for 6wks overlapping 2 wks for a 7 wk cycle, I gained and kept 14 pounds. Not bad since I used the 1-ad only at 300mgs a day(I didn't know what I was doing yet)by the way this was 6 mos ago. Last sunday(7 days ago) I started taking the P-MAX and got the same buz after taking the pills that I got off of the 1-ad and the superdrol one time when I took 6 in one day(the last 4 weeks of the cycle I took 4 a day and was happe). The buz lasted for 3 days(after taking the pills) and since I am so skeptical and I don't want to waste a cycle on thurs I started taking methyl-1-p with it since I hear it is junk and I already own it I had to use it some time, well now I take 1 of each 3 times a day and I deffinately am still getting a "buzz" but now it is not so much a body buzz but I feel like I have an adrenalin buzz( especially after my second dose) I am up 2 pounds in the first week which I am happy with and am having more intense workouts. I have more oily skin and have to remember to wash my face xtra during the day(don't want akne). I wish I had either done real phera or had some to switch for a day(my friend has some and I will see if I can trade him a days worth this week) so I could see if it was any different. There is no doubt that this stuff is a steroid, the only scepticism I have is whether it is dosed right(10mg and not 5) and whether it is all 2-ene. but like I said I am a skeptic I always expect the worse and a product has to prove itself to me. I will post back every 7 days to let you know my progress and how it goes switching out pills with my friend. Hopefully after my 30 day cycle you guys will be able to decide whether or not this is for you. Kevin..
- 06-18-2006, 09:40 PM
bubsnt3 i'm so confused about what you said. maybe you can rewrite that? far as i understood you're taking all kinds of pills and taking 6 pmax a day?
day 4 is almost over for me of 20mg pmax and nothing still, no strength, pumps, sides, or weight gain, maybe tomorrow something will kick in..
06-18-2006, 10:17 PM
06-18-2006, 10:38 PM
last day of my 3 week cycle of P-Max, Up 11lb's, and feel like a greased pig. will PCTfor 3 weeks then hit another 3 week cycle but, this time will do 20, 20 ,30, and maybe H-Max at the end for a couple weeks to lean out because I am FAT right now. I upped my Cals too much. My wife said my ass is looking like the Michilin man!!
No problem here I am used to being very lean, and feel real good right now being Bloated.
BTW. Sex drive has been great on P-Max compared to Halo.
06-18-2006, 10:57 PM
11 lbs? what is your previous cycle experience like? what is your strength like now? any other measurements?
06-19-2006, 05:31 AM
sorry for the confusion I said "well now I take 1 of each 3 times a day" so that is 3 p-max and 3 methy-1-p. If I was you I would up the dose to 30mg-40mg a day, at 20 I don't think that you would "feel" anything" I know I didn't feel the superdrol until 40mg. Steroids are dose dependent. Everyone says stay at a low dose but if I am going to do it I am going to make sure it works. People who do trenbolone do 75mg a day to start with so 30-40 of this shouldn't hurt although you will start to notice some sides.
06-19-2006, 02:19 PM
06-19-2006, 02:52 PM
06-19-2006, 02:52 PM
06-19-2006, 04:10 PM
06-19-2006, 05:00 PM
06-19-2006, 05:44 PM
06-19-2006, 06:20 PM
06-19-2006, 06:44 PM
a little bit.
seriously, 4 HMAX a day is nice.
PMAX I have to stay away from. Dries me out way too much.
06-19-2006, 10:19 PM
Day 5 is pretty much over, and i took an extra pmax 30mg, still nothing. i worked out today and nothing. no sides, no nothing. either i'm taking placebo or this stuff is taking a long time to work.
06-20-2006, 11:33 AM
06-20-2006, 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by AndroAnarchy
Damn, I'm tryin the pmax in about a week, I hope it works better than hmax.
06-20-2006, 04:26 PM
my plan was this
week 1- 20mg pmax
week 2- 20mg pmax
week 3- 20mg pmax & 25mg hmax
week 4- 50mg hmax
today is day 6.....
06-20-2006, 04:46 PM
I dont know what to say .
Like I said , some people respond to these things differently.
I respond better to Promagnon than superdrol, yet superdrol supposedly is the best.
06-20-2006, 05:32 PM
Try going to 30mg for the pmax.Originally Posted by AndroAnarchy
Pmax is supposed to be more androgenic than superdrol, so you should be getting stronger and more vascular.
06-20-2006, 05:52 PM
thats right that should happen.
I got stronger.
but I'm gonna say this again, everyone is different.
I had a friend take a gram of test for 4 weeks and the dude did not improve in any aspect of lifting whatsoever.
now that was odd.
06-20-2006, 06:43 PM
06-21-2006, 02:36 PM
06-22-2006, 07:06 PM
day 8, i went back down 20mg, it was making my heart work too hard. no strength or size but i was able to workout without being so tired as usual.
06-22-2006, 07:13 PM
all I can say is DAMN!
Hey, if you dont get results PM me.
I'll work something out to get you huge.
At this point we're here scratching our heads .
06-22-2006, 07:36 PM
Days 1-4 (20mg) pmax
Day 5,6 (30mg) pmax
Day 7 (20mg) pmax
Day 8 (30mg) pmax
that's what i've done so far
been consuming a lot of protein, i eat all my regular meals, i eat all day. no junk food (i hate junk food). to make sure i get enough protein i consume 150g-200g of just whey protein powder alone. i eat like 3500-4000 calories a day. my diet isn't very strict.
i'm 5ft 7in
150-155 lbs (my weight flucuates a lot in between there)
i can go to bed weighing 155 and wake up at 150, it's always been like that. not exactly sure about my bodyfat percentage but it's like 20-26%
06-22-2006, 11:27 PM
06-22-2006, 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by Prometabolix
Oh, trust me I only use the scale to assist my overall judgement of how my body is responding. I also take measurements and I look at my body all the time (a bit narcissistic, I know lol). I also keep a log of my workouts here is a sample for you:
db bench- 45, 55,55,50x8
db bench- 50,60,60,55x8
5-14-06 (1st day of cycle)
5-28-06 (2nd week of cycle)
db bench-60,65,60x7 (failure),55x8
6-11-06 (4th week of cycle)
db bench- 60,65,60,60x8
as you can see my strength hasn't really improved any more that it normally would have. I'm steadily increasing but I just haven't seen a real improvement.
I also have my measurements and weight in an excel file that I can post if you want to take a look. It goes back to last august but there are a few holes in it where I was just posting everthing in the private clients section instead of in excel.
06-23-2006, 12:55 AM
06-23-2006, 10:05 AM
so your only going to rest 3weeks? that kind of defeats the purposed of the PCT. PCT is to get your test levels back up to normal if you jump right back on cycle then your shutting them down as soon as they return to normal. so you kind of waisted the 3 weeks bringing them back to normal also that only gives your liver a 3 week rest p-max and h-max are both 17aa methyls. If you got good results you should concentrate on keeping them and take a total of 6 weeks off at least.Originally Posted by JackedUp
06-23-2006, 12:34 PM
looks like to me you are taking too long of a rest in between workouts .
there is such a thing as under training.
06-23-2006, 01:20 PM
I'd have to agree with pro there it looks like your only doing 1 chest work-out every two weeks is that correct?Originally Posted by Prometabolix
06-23-2006, 02:11 PM
06-23-2006, 02:41 PM
I can give you a chest routine.
looks like your nervous system has aclimated to your workout.
is that how you spell aclimated?
06-23-2006, 03:55 PM
day 9, i'm finally passed 155 border, i'm at 156 but it might not be muscle, i ate a whole pot of rice last night and that's what happened. my weight flucuates 150-155 all the time so who knows if this lasts, i can't see any difference, no size
06-23-2006, 05:23 PM
Originally Posted by Prometabolix
06-23-2006, 05:44 PM
06-23-2006, 05:48 PM
06-23-2006, 06:30 PM
Oops perhaps I should have elaborated on my routine more. I go to the gym 5x per week. I use a two week rotation with tut training and I actually do chest 2x per week. I just used a specific exercise so I could give a true comparison. Furthermore, I really just grabbed some dates out of my log at random except for the on cycle dates.
Using another 2 week rotation I have gone up to 12 weeks without acclimating to my routine. And I am still gaining strength, just not as fast as I would have expected. I still feel as though I were gaining everthing naturally at this point.
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