View Poll Results: Would a taking a lie detector test be more efficient way of testing Pro's
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Who gives a sh*t, pro bb'ing sucks balls anyway!
Would a taking a lie detector test be more efficient way of testing Pro's
- 07-16-2008, 12:32 AM
- 07-16-2008, 12:39 AM
lie dectors measures reactions. If you know how it works, you can get past it. Lots of natural leagues still have people who cheat. They figure the half lifes of compounds they are illegal, they run it, and they know how to avoid making the detector go nuts. Its not impossible. It also depends on the person doing the lie detector test. I think the competence of the person and his ability to ask and guage in questions also measures the accuracy of the lie detector. Even with the best lie detector examiners im sure that its still like a 95% rate of being accurate. I think an average rate of being correct is fairly low though somewhere in the 60% range when the tester is not that well experienced.
07-16-2008, 12:42 AM
Whats the point.......everyone KNOWS they all use massive amounts of sh*t.
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07-16-2008, 01:17 AM
It would be a good idea, but the tests are not impossible to beat. The test is as good as it's administrator.
07-16-2008, 01:20 AM
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07-16-2008, 01:26 AM
07-31-2008, 02:04 AM
07-31-2008, 05:53 AM
"Lie detectors" are admissible in court, besides that, traitors in this country have passed it. In fact, a Polygraph measures your signs along with the administrator who is supposed to monitor your body language too to establish "base behavior", like base signs and see when deviations occur and observe variations and what they say, a variation isn't always lying....and vice versa.
If the IFBB will hire the best administrators, the bodybuilders will hire or explore counter intelligence personnel to debrief them on "passing the poly".
Fact is, the DEA needs bodybuilders to use drugs so they can have jobs, the market needs drugs so they can boost sales of legal "drugs and supplements" indirectly and people do wanna see muscle freaks.
All in all, the current way is working fine, not everyone is happy with it, but in the big picture, it's working out good.
08-09-2008, 12:51 AM
sure they use polygraphs in some natural organizations but as far as I'm concerned since people will do whatever it takes to cheat drug tests all this would do is breed liars who internally justify lies as the truth.
08-09-2008, 02:35 AM
If anyone is that big there using steroids simple as that! You can get big without them but not freaky.
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08-09-2008, 03:13 PM
08-09-2008, 10:43 PM
08-09-2008, 10:49 PM
Have those of you who are saying how easy it is to pass a poly ever taken one? A polygraph is NOT an easily passed process regardless of what you've read on wikipedia.
08-10-2008, 12:24 AM
08-10-2008, 01:34 AM
yea, peopel like to think its easy no chance.
The testing the IFBB is NOT for steroids, its just not spoken about what the testing is.
They have anti-"doping" testing ....i.e. heroin, weed, cocaine....etc etc....
They know the guys use the juice and if you look at any info ever released on the "testing" they do...its either "random" which means they prolly ask the athlete if they can use the name OR it is done on all of them which would be the previosu mentioned.
No one is so naieve to think they dont juice...if they do, they need to come out fomr under the rock they live under and experience the world.
08-10-2008, 04:18 AM
someday happen, the athletes are so big and bloated now they're become living cartoons. When I was little there was only one guy who used drugs to get huge, and like the GH using BBers of today, he too ended up with an awful looking bloated gut, but it was ok because he was afterall, just a cartoon.
08-10-2008, 09:42 AM
08-10-2008, 12:54 PM
Taking away steroids fomr BB's is like taking the ball away from a basketball player....it leaves the game pointless.
08-11-2008, 01:24 AM
ever seen the show on MTV where the guys friend is in his ear and has a lie dectector test set up and can tell if the girl/guy is lying?
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08-11-2008, 05:30 AM
and anyway this thread was a paradoxical statement to point out an already absurd organisation such as the IFBB, it's current drug testing policy and just the general B.S that's feed to the BB'ing fans and consumers of BB realted products that use top pro's to endorse as what was their "edge" in winning a title.
08-11-2008, 08:21 PM
Lie detectors are crap. I read this and practiced this. I beat the lie detector. It is a free 220 page e book. Enjoy reading. You're welcome.
No...It's actually pretty easy. Did it, lived to tell about it.maybe it's easy in the movies however i think that it really wouldn't be that easy to fool an expert tester and top of the ranger polygraph machine.
08-11-2008, 08:26 PM
08-11-2008, 08:35 PM
08-11-2008, 08:45 PM
I shouldn't have said it was easy, because my stomach was in knots the whole time. The most important thing during the Poly I did, was to give the examiner a little info of my past but not enough to hang myself. Just remember, they don't expect anyone to be a Saint.
I knew the questions and the way they would be asked from that book. It was textbook. From the examiner trying to befriend me, to showing me who was in charge. I was chuckling inside.
Hey, I read about that trick!
08-11-2008, 08:56 PM
08-12-2008, 11:11 AM
No thanks. I'm good. Once is enough. The experience was much weirder than that show. The person asking me the questions was nice but kinda strange. They start off by telling you that they want to see you do well. Maybe they do, but don't let down your guard until after the test, after you have left the building.
They asked me if I had read anything about beating the polygraph.
Arm yourself with knowledge people so you aren't taken advantage of.
Google "Zeitgeist" for an interesting movie of how people attempt to control people. The polygragh is a tool of fear, which is very effective in most instances of making you fear yourself. I'll post the movie in the General Chat section.
08-12-2008, 11:14 AM
Of course it's a tool of fear... What else has you admitting to crap you were never caught doing? Your criminal record may be spotless but you could very well have some serious issues.
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