[smeton_yea]

I looked up some other moment of truths..wow I was shaking inside how people really are....everyone! its not just you! and most likely you are a better person than some of this. i know I am as I compared myself to some of these last night...I believe I am a good person and you can honestly "feel" out whether your answer is true or flase when you ask yourself certain questions

[Jayhawkk]

Everyone i've met who has done a complete background poly feels dirty and like a criminal after completing one. There's a lot of things we just put behind us and until it's reminded what we may have done, do we remember. I'm all for polys for people in positions of power and influence that can lead to corruption.

[smeton_yea]

Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

Everyone i've met who has done a complete background poly feels dirty and like a criminal after completing one. There's a lot of things we just put behind us and until it's reminded what we may have done, do we remember. I'm all for polys for people in positions of power and influence that can lead to corruption.

You also have to realize many of the leaders made so many mistakes thats how that got into that position

off topic...people people overcompensate when they get older for things they didnt have when younger



example the boy with the burnt legs who was told hell never walk again broke some kind of a race record.

the poorer people(like Asains) who come to American and get filthy rich because they see the opportunities American provides that wherever they were didnt/ Amewricans just have to open our eyes, its here!

I could go on with more examples I think you get the point

[Jayhawkk]

You also have to realize many of the leaders made so many mistakes thats how that got into that position

Mistakes don't get you, breaking laws you weren't caught by, will. Think along the lines of incest, rape, grand larceny, etc etc.

Getting into some fights or taking pens from your office isn't a real concern.

[Mach .78]

Bigfoot: Bob Heironimus passes polygraph 2005

This guy passed, Ted Bundy passed,etc....
One of the most prolific serial killers in American history took and passed a polygraph test - Democratic Underground

Polygraphs should not be relied on for anything except to see what your blood pressure ,resp. rate, and sweat glands are producing on paper. They are crap.

[Omen]

Originally Posted by Nightwanderer

LMAO! This statement is a self evident contradiction, it shows there's obviously enough crack floating around to keep the DEA busy enough.... I'm sure the DEA has plenty to do with all the coke and MJ coming through from south america, most of the world's opium via afghanistan, etc...

I put it the wrong way.

But, LE needs criminals, weather real or perceived by unfair laws, without criminals LE has almost no purpose.

Jayhawkk,

I didn't say it would be easy for me, I never got trained to deceive the poly, but there are people, resources, etc... who'll teach you.

The only reason I said it was easy because my friend was in the 75th Ranger battalion(left the Military somewhere around 2000-2002) said he could pass one and correct me if I'm wrong, that they teach you to pass a poly in some Military training, I'll find out in 09.

[smeton_yea]

Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

Mistakes don't get you, breaking laws you weren't caught by, will. Think along the lines of incest, rape, grand larceny, etc etc.

Getting into some fights or taking pens from your office isn't a real concern.

Of course I all the former things I consider downright need to be locked up and or some kind of punishment

The former is normal human nature; although can be eliminated or minimized

[smeton_yea]

any way to get on the show? I'd do it

[RobInKuwait]

Originally Posted by Omen

"Lie detectors" are admissible in court,

This couldn't be further from the truth. Polygraphs are NOT admissable in court under any circumstances.

Polygraph are only as effective as the polygrapher. A good polygrapher will not be fooled 99% of the time. They typically go through 9 months of training exclusively in polygraphing. The tricks you hear about such as taking depressants prior to the test, ect do not work, they just mask the spikes in the polygraph, but there are still spikes.

[jjohn]

Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

Doesn' work... Polys aren't 100% but beating it is usually based on the type you're taking.

No theyre not 100%. Fight or flight can be controlled. Not easily, butit CAN be done.

Anyways, they are not admissible in court. Anyways in Canada.. They serve as something to make you tell the truth. It's all a mind game.

[Jayhawkk]

I'm not aware of Rangers taking anti-poly training. I could see that as a Delta thing, imo.

[hardknock]

Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

Doesn' work... Polys aren't 100% but beating it is usually based on the type you're taking.

I've taken 3 that were administered at 3 different times in my life by "supposed" specialist and I've passed 2 of them with no problem. I've had to help administer two myself, and have seen one guy pass it but he was lying, never proven, but he confessed about 1 year later to a rape case.(edit: to info leading to his conviction of a rape case)

Also, to add to this topic, it depends on what your being tested to detect lying for and state of mind.

If you have convinced yourself of something then the chances of detection are low. I can be a freaking psychotic baboon, and if i've convinced myself that I did not murder someone, then in my mind's reality, it's true that i didn't, if in my twisted mind I have convinced myself that i did not...

But, that's on the case of someone not sane, so..

It's like someone that is tripping on acid thinking that they can fly, if you ask them during a poly test if they can fly, they will say yes and the chances of detection for a lie is then again, low...

To answer my opinion on the topic...not really due to the fact that I can't see the point in it.

[ecu19]

Originally Posted by RobInKuwait

This couldn't be further from the truth. Polygraphs are NOT admissable in court under any circumstances.

I could have sworn that they are admissible if and only if both parties agree to it (which would be highly unlikely if the defendant knows they did it...).