I feel like Jay is going to be 'given' the Mr. O title, just like last year.
I hope not!I feel like Jay is going to be 'given' the Mr. O title, just like last year.
im with you on this one. But if he deserved the win then yea he should take it. I mean if Jay is on spot this year then i dont think anyone could beat him. sorry to say. But if it was like last year when he came in like a sponge then no he doesnt deserve to win at all.I hope not!
Agreed. x2.I predict he will win it again it regardless of what shape he comes in they will give him the win... with Victor out this year and Dexter the next closest competitor being so close to retiring plus lest not forget MT is sponsoring the whole thing its a done deal... this is why the majority of the public does and will not follow BB... its too subjective for most people to care about it
I don't think this year will be as big a sham as the '80 (or was that '81), but it will still most likely be a mockery; Jay will come in sloppy (relatively, as who are we to speak?) and Dexter will most likely be robbed though he will be drier, and more symmetrical.It's a lot harder to win your first Sandow than it is to win your second. Once you win once, you almost have to try and lose. Look at all the greats who dominated the Olympia stage. Arnold, Haney, Yates, and Coleman all had years where they clearly weren't the best on stage, but they all still came out on top. Like everyone has already said, there is too much politics involved.
jay will definately be sloppy. wait..what sham are you talking about? i hope its not the 1980 where arnold came back and won and he only trained for a couple months before it. i think 81's winner was columbo..correct me if i'm wrong. but the biggest sham i think was that i personally don't think ronnie should have beat flex wheeler for his first win.I don't think this year will be as big a sham as the '80 (or was that '81), but it will still most likely be a mockery; Jay will come in sloppy (relatively, as who are we to speak?) and Dexter will most likely be robbed though he will be drier, and more symmetrical.
If you've ever seen video from the 1980, Arnold was in horrible shape in comparison to Mentzer.jay will definately be sloppy. wait..what sham are you talking about? i hope its not the 1980 where arnold came back and won and he only trained for a couple months before it. i think 81's winner was columbo..correct me if i'm wrong. but the biggest sham i think was that i personally don't think ronnie should have beat flex wheeler for his first win.
Look at ronnies lower lat. Its like missing almost. thats why he lost.Here's Jay getting owned again from the back. That's how Ronnie always beat Jay was from the back. Jay's back just isn't the same as Ronnie's. Not even close.
I couldn't agree more, Sir! :goodpost:...
Jay just didn't have the genetics to hang with Ronnie. He only won because Ronnie was off, not because he made any drastic improvements or the such.
I agree. It would be awesome to see Dexter walk away victorious at least once. His physique is amazing and in my mind perfect. His proportions and symmetry are unrivaled, and he always comes in, in almost impeccable condition. If Dexter was to win, I believe it could be the start of a change back towards the more aesthetic origins of bodybuilding.it would be nice to see dexter win at least one in his career the guy has always been in the top. I guess his lat spread holds him back no pun intended.
Im looking forward to seeing Wolf again this year id like to see how he comes in compared to last year.
Jay like people already said is a great spokesperson and guy to have as the star of bodybuilding at this point. Not to mention he carries alot of muscle. Ive never been a fan of his overall look but hell you cant deny his development is very good. Im gonna have to say it even tho i dont want to..........Jay takes it again this year and it is his last Sandow.
Freeman has a good physique, but like you said he isn't bringing the conditioning. If I remember right he didn't even crack the top 10 last year.I wouldn't mind seeing Toney Freeman take it. His physique is pretty awesome as well. Lately he's been struggling with his conditioning, probably age catching up with him.
I think Harris has a great physique. It's very aesthetically pleasing, even more so than Jay's physique. He's managed to put on a lot of size while keeping his waist narrow. I agree that I could definitely see him placing a lot higher this year, but definitely not winning.I thought Will Harris looked great last year too, id like to see him place higher.
exactly why i like him. the way he posed at last years o was great imo too, he took command of the stage and had good posing. alot of mass and narrow waist.I think Harris has a great physique. It's very aesthetically pleasing, even more so than Jay's physique. He's managed to put on a lot of size while keeping his waist narrow. I agree that I could definitely see him placing a lot higher this year, but definitely not winning.
Heath is going to be a real contender at the Olympia here in the next couple years. I don't think he's quite ready yet though. Did he qualify for the O? The way he has transformed his physique in the last two years is absolutely amazing.exactly why i like him. the way he posed at last years o was great imo too, he took command of the stage and had good posing. alot of mass and narrow waist.
just looked at the IFBB Ironman Pro 2008 pics on bb.com and Harris looks smooth, not too good. Phil Heath is very impressive look at those pics, he is the most conditioned of all of them. Heath i was never a fan of but man he is looking like the real deal in those pics.
Its going to be Jay. Someone on MD just posted pics and he is looking solid right now. Fukcin huge tris. If he comes in conditioned like crazy and he should after being on top 2 years he know what to do and what works now, i am disappointed to say, He will win, and it will be earned.I think it will be wolf or dexter. Both are always on par, and with victor and kai out, I cant see it being Jay again
I get your point. Yet, after the debacle of last year, Jay has to be pretty convincing to be awarded victory, regardless of how ambassadorial he is. I know there is a lot of politics in play, plus the advantage of being an incumbent. These are to Jay's advantage. Still, if he is off-shape, for whatever reason, or if someone else is more convincing overall, Jay just will not get it.some of you guys are forgetting one thing... what they are looking for in a winner is who ever is the best ambassador to the sport, this sport has had such a bad reputation right now from the steroids fall out that a guy with a criminal record (victor) will not win, a guy who might retire next year (dexter) will not win, a guy who can not speak English well (wolf) will not win... its all about politics and right now Jay is the front runner he's the best spoken of them all with no bad record and he can be marketable
i hope so.I understand why manby believe that Jay will win, and yes that logic makes sense. However by the same token, there is thought that this is it for Jay, so usingthe logic a few posts above, he might not get it due to the possible retirement.
I really think that it will be Dex over Wolf, Phil and Jay. He has been the far most consistent out of all the pros. He is spot on at every show and every time on stage. It might just be his time.
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