Is Jay Cutler going to win Mr. Olympia 2008 ?

ReaperX · 07-16-2008, 01:39 PM

Yeah I think Vic would have been a very strong contender for the Mr. O and had a very good chance of winning it.

Wolf will place high, however I am virtually certain he will not actually win it. Part of being Mr. O is speaking English semi-well which I believe he is still struggling with.

Dexter Jackson is probably single-handedly the most under appreciated bb'er today. His conditioning is ridiculous, he has striations everywhere, and rarely is he ever off. Plus he is proportional and has a more balanced physique, IMO.

Jay Gutler needs to retire after this win. I'd hate to keep seeing the Mr. O wasted on him.

Only after literally drugging himself up to the point where is head looks weird was he able to beat Ronnie. That was after Ronnie had an injury not because Jay had a better physique.

Jay's left quad is larger than the right and he's always watery in the upper body. At best he's maybe #5. There are many more athletes that look better than him.

ReaperX · 07-16-2008, 01:46 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Toney Freeman take it. His physique is pretty awesome as well. Lately he's been struggling with his conditioning, probably age catching up with him.

TerribleTowel · 07-16-2008, 01:52 PM

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I wouldn't mind seeing Toney Freeman take it. His physique is pretty awesome as well. Lately he's been struggling with his conditioning, probably age catching up with him.

Freeman has a good physique, but like you said he isn't bringing the conditioning. If I remember right he didn't even crack the top 10 last year.

**pistonpump** · 07-16-2008, 01:57 PM

If Branch competes hell be a sight to see.....he's put on alot of mass....still not the most pleasing but he's a freak!

**pistonpump** · 07-16-2008, 01:58 PM

I thought Will Harris looked great last year too, id like to see him place higher.

TerribleTowel · 07-16-2008, 02:29 PM

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I thought Will Harris looked great last year too, id like to see him place higher.

I think Harris has a great physique. It's very aesthetically pleasing, even more so than Jay's physique. He's managed to put on a lot of size while keeping his waist narrow. I agree that I could definitely see him placing a lot higher this year, but definitely not winning.

**pistonpump** · 07-16-2008, 03:41 PM

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I think Harris has a great physique. It's very aesthetically pleasing, even more so than Jay's physique. He's managed to put on a lot of size while keeping his waist narrow. I agree that I could definitely see him placing a lot higher this year, but definitely not winning.

exactly why i like him. the way he posed at last years o was great imo too, he took command of the stage and had good posing. alot of mass and narrow waist.

just looked at the IFBB Ironman Pro 2008 pics on bb.com and Harris looks smooth, not too good. Phil Heath is very impressive look at those pics, he is the most conditioned of all of them. Heath i was never a fan of but man he is looking like the real deal in those pics.

TerribleTowel · 07-16-2008, 03:58 PM

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exactly why i like him. the way he posed at last years o was great imo too, he took command of the stage and had good posing. alot of mass and narrow waist.

just looked at the IFBB Ironman Pro 2008 pics on bb.com and Harris looks smooth, not too good. Phil Heath is very impressive look at those pics, he is the most conditioned of all of them. Heath i was never a fan of but man he is looking like the real deal in those pics.

Heath is going to be a real contender at the Olympia here in the next couple years. I don't think he's quite ready yet though. Did he qualify for the O? The way he has transformed his physique in the last two years is absolutely amazing.

PP, have you seen this deleted scene from Bigger Stronger Faster. The part where he is talking with Harris and Harris is posing is ridiculous. That back double bi pose is incredible.

Reaper329 · 07-16-2008, 05:10 PM

I think it will be wolf or dexter. Both are always on par, and with victor and kai out, I cant see it being Jay again

MentalTwitch · 07-16-2008, 05:36 PM

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I think it will be wolf or dexter. Both are always on par, and with victor and kai out, I cant see it being Jay again

Its going to be Jay. Someone on MD just posted pics and he is looking solid right now. Fukcin huge tris. If he comes in conditioned like crazy and he should after being on top 2 years he know what to do and what works now, i am disappointed to say, He will win, and it will be earned.

I would like to see Dex,Phil,Kai,Vic place top 3 but that wont happen being 2 are out, Phil doesnt have the size, and Dex is going to end up top 3 though being Kai and Phil is out. Branch will pull 5th or 6th. Dont forget about Johnny JAckson.

**mindgame** · 07-16-2008, 07:18 PM

yes phil qualified for the O. He took 1st in the Iron man in LA.

**DormantFiber** · 07-16-2008, 08:22 PM

some of you guys are forgetting one thing... what they are looking for in a winner is who ever is the best ambassador to the sport, this sport has had such a bad reputation right now from the steroids fall out that a guy with a criminal record (victor) will not win, a guy who might retire next year (dexter) will not win, a guy who can not speak English well (wolf) will not win... its all about politics and right now Jay is the front runner he's the best spoken of them all with no bad record and he can be marketable

**strategicmove** · 07-17-2008, 03:11 AM

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some of you guys are forgetting one thing... what they are looking for in a winner is who ever is the best ambassador to the sport, this sport has had such a bad reputation right now from the steroids fall out that a guy with a criminal record (victor) will not win, a guy who might retire next year (dexter) will not win, a guy who can not speak English well (wolf) will not win... its all about politics and right now Jay is the front runner he's the best spoken of them all with no bad record and he can be marketable

I get your point. Yet, after the debacle of last year, Jay has to be pretty convincing to be awarded victory, regardless of how ambassadorial he is. I know there is a lot of politics in play, plus the advantage of being an incumbent. These are to Jay's advantage. Still, if he is off-shape, for whatever reason, or if someone else is more convincing overall, Jay just will not get it.
Dexter finally deserves a win. He has consistently demonstrated the finest in bodybuilding. Symmetry and perfection should once again prevail over size. Considering that Dexter might retire soon, if he comes in in mind-blowing condition, it will be hard to deny him victory. Mr. Cutler is not the finest bodybuilding currently has to offer. There is a limit to which questionable judge decisions can be accepted by the audience and fans. Those decisions will only damage the sport long-term.

Reaper329 · 07-17-2008, 06:02 AM

I understand why manby believe that Jay will win, and yes that logic makes sense. However by the same token, there is thought that this is it for Jay, so usingthe logic a few posts above, he might not get it due to the possible retirement.

I really think that it will be Dex over Wolf, Phil and Jay. He has been the far most consistent out of all the pros. He is spot on at every show and every time on stage. It might just be his time.