Is Jay Cutler going to win Mr. Olympia 2008 ?
- 07-16-2008, 10:16 AM
- 07-16-2008, 10:18 AM
The left one got messed up. I think it was some nerve damage and the muscle atrophied.
I agree though, if it wasn't for the messed up symmetry, Ronnie would still be winning.
Jay just didn't have the genetics to hang with Ronnie. He only won because Ronnie was off, not because he made any drastic improvements or the such.
07-16-2008, 12:06 PM
07-16-2008, 01:01 PM
Has anyone seen the recent pictures from Dexter's guest posing with Wolf and Dennis James? In those pictures it looks like Dexter has definitely put on some size since the last time we saw him. It will be interesting to see if when the Olympia comes around and he's dieted down if he's still noticably larger than his previous shows, because Dexter is a guy know for only making subtle changes (5 to 10 pounds) from year to year.
07-16-2008, 01:09 PM
It really is a shame that Victor got hurt and isn't going to be competing this year. I believe he had the best chance of defeating Cutler. Everyone knows he should have won last year and I believe that the IFBB had probably heard enough about how they fowled up the decision last year, and I don't think they would have done it again. Especially if it came down to the same two guys, and if Victor once again was clearly ahead of the Jay.
07-16-2008, 01:39 PM
Yeah I think Vic would have been a very strong contender for the Mr. O and had a very good chance of winning it.
Wolf will place high, however I am virtually certain he will not actually win it. Part of being Mr. O is speaking English semi-well which I believe he is still struggling with.
Dexter Jackson is probably single-handedly the most under appreciated bb'er today. His conditioning is ridiculous, he has striations everywhere, and rarely is he ever off. Plus he is proportional and has a more balanced physique, IMO.
Jay Gutler needs to retire after this win. I'd hate to keep seeing the Mr. O wasted on him.
Only after literally drugging himself up to the point where is head looks weird was he able to beat Ronnie. That was after Ronnie had an injury not because Jay had a better physique.
Jay's left quad is larger than the right and he's always watery in the upper body. At best he's maybe #5. There are many more athletes that look better than him.
07-16-2008, 01:46 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Toney Freeman take it. His physique is pretty awesome as well. Lately he's been struggling with his conditioning, probably age catching up with him.
07-16-2008, 01:52 PM
07-16-2008, 01:57 PM
If Branch competes hell be a sight to see.....he's put on alot of mass....still not the most pleasing but he's a freak!
07-16-2008, 01:58 PM
07-16-2008, 02:29 PM
07-16-2008, 03:41 PM
just looked at the IFBB Ironman Pro 2008 pics on bb.com and Harris looks smooth, not too good. Phil Heath is very impressive look at those pics, he is the most conditioned of all of them. Heath i was never a fan of but man he is looking like the real deal in those pics.
07-16-2008, 03:58 PM
PP, have you seen this deleted scene from Bigger Stronger Faster. The part where he is talking with Harris and Harris is posing is ridiculous. That back double bi pose is incredible.
07-16-2008, 05:10 PM
I think it will be wolf or dexter. Both are always on par, and with victor and kai out, I cant see it being Jay again
07-16-2008, 05:36 PM
I would like to see Dex,Phil,Kai,Vic place top 3 but that wont happen being 2 are out, Phil doesnt have the size, and Dex is going to end up top 3 though being Kai and Phil is out. Branch will pull 5th or 6th. Dont forget about Johnny JAckson.
07-16-2008, 07:18 PM
07-16-2008, 08:22 PM
some of you guys are forgetting one thing... what they are looking for in a winner is who ever is the best ambassador to the sport, this sport has had such a bad reputation right now from the steroids fall out that a guy with a criminal record (victor) will not win, a guy who might retire next year (dexter) will not win, a guy who can not speak English well (wolf) will not win... its all about politics and right now Jay is the front runner he's the best spoken of them all with no bad record and he can be marketable
07-17-2008, 03:11 AM
Dexter finally deserves a win. He has consistently demonstrated the finest in bodybuilding. Symmetry and perfection should once again prevail over size. Considering that Dexter might retire soon, if he comes in in mind-blowing condition, it will be hard to deny him victory. Mr. Cutler is not the finest bodybuilding currently has to offer. There is a limit to which questionable judge decisions can be accepted by the audience and fans. Those decisions will only damage the sport long-term.
07-17-2008, 06:02 AM
I understand why manby believe that Jay will win, and yes that logic makes sense. However by the same token, there is thought that this is it for Jay, so usingthe logic a few posts above, he might not get it due to the possible retirement.
I really think that it will be Dex over Wolf, Phil and Jay. He has been the far most consistent out of all the pros. He is spot on at every show and every time on stage. It might just be his time.
07-17-2008, 07:13 AM
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