[LiftNDestroy]

Realy debated posting this question here but really curious as to other members thoughts on this one(Sorry if this has been posted before but couldn't find anything). Everyone always talks about safe cycling of gear, and age limits etc...But what are your thoughts on Trey Brewer, and Evan Centipani, and other young up and comers in the sport? I don't care what they take or haven taken to get where they are because striving to be a professional in the sport, they do what it takes. However what are your thoughts on them using gear at such a young age, and for them does it even matter? Don't want to drum up a debate on this, or about what's right and what's wrong just curious really. I agree everyone should wait until they are 21 and should always be responsible but when you look at guys as young as Brewer, and Centipani(I know there are others these two come to mind first) it makes me wonder. Sorry for the rant but it's early, and I've been meaning to post/ask this for a while now.
PS...thanks for the move wasnt sure where to post this.

[pistonpump]

i think alot of guys that turn pro used from early teens. thats just my opinion. If they want to devote everything to bodybuilding then let um, i think its very irresponsible and careless not to mention unhealthy but hey, its their body.

[MentalTwitch]

I agree. At a certain point its all or nothing. If youre goin to be a recreational user then thats fine. You keep it simple, low, safe, spread out etc.

I think if you decide to make it a commitment then you have to use. Especially if you wanna get outta local shows and hit the bigs eventually.

I guess what im sayin is, to be the best, you gotta push the limits. These guys wont spend their whole lifes at it. MAybe from 20-mid 30s actually using alot of gear and pushing the limits. After that it has to turn to healthy living and making it last as long as you can.

I mean a decent example(i dont like him so i say decent :P) is Jay Cutler. I saw a show of him on youtube where he was about 19 and prolly on a little test or something. Not saying he had to of been.

I Think since you knwo youll be on it pretty much at a constant at a certain point its now your body, so you accept it.

[ReaperX]

After I read the title with Trey Brewer, Evan Centiopani also came to my mind. Those guys started using the drugs early and they are both extremely young men. Hopefully they feel that the risks they are taking are worth what the long run brings.......both good and bad.

[LiftNDestroy]

I agree with what reaper said, I hope in the long run its worth it for both of them. And I have a lot of respect for both of these young men and what it takes to become pro it just seems like these new pros are getting and younger and it makes me ask the question. How young is too young, because brewer has only been at it for what 3 years?

[Red Dog]

at 1:37 everybody who has ever watched this video wants to yell "STEROIDS!! An endless ocean of steroids!!" ..

You can see it's a touchy question by the way the way he and his buddy react to it haha that's funny to me.

[Australian made]

Originally Posted by LiftNDestroy

I agree with what reaper said, I hope in the long run its worth it for both of them. And I have a lot of respect for both of these young men and what it takes to become pro it just seems like these new pros are getting and younger and it makes me ask the question. How young is too young, because brewer has only been at it for what 3 years?

Pro's are getting younger?? i really don't think that is true at all. Arnie retired at what 26, after competing on the world stage at 19. The hulk dude was only 25 or 26 in Pumping Iron? the pro's are getting older because it takes longer to build quality muscle. Yes there are some young pro's but look at Ronnie, Melvin, Tony F and various others....

Evan Centopani said he had 20 inch arms in highschool. No one would have fcked with him.

[ReaperX]

Trey is pretty heavy in that video. He's carrying quite a bit of fat. I don't actually know what the ages are, but for Trey and Evan to be going after pros they undoubtably have tons of gear and peptides flowing in their blood at all times.

If they think it is worth it, more power to them, it's their body. Seeing Trey @ 22 yrs old and as big as a lot of the pros already makes me want to see what his internal organs look like.

[borobulker]

i met trey at the arnold, he is a great guy. he gave us some tips and stuff. he took the time to talk to us and was ignoring the other people that were trying to but in until we were done talking to him. my camera died right before we got a pic together but there is always next year...

[TerribleTowel]

It's a touchy subject and it's just a matter of if they think it's worth it or not. The guys were obviously monsters before they started using and they just realized pretty early on that they had a shot to make it as a pro and once you decide that's what you want to do 100%, then there is no reason why they shouldn't go ahead and go on. I'm not saying every 18 year old should go on, but these guys are just delaying the inevitable if they wait. Sadly, pros nowadays stay on continuously and never come off, it's just what is required to compete at the highest level these days.

I do worry however wonder what some of these guys insides look like. To be at the same size as guys who have pros 10 years longer and have been cycling at least 10 years longer really makes you wonder. In that video they said Trey competed at 225 and then a year later at 265. That's a 40 pound increase in pure muscle mass in one year. I don't care how good your genetics are, it takes an incredible amount of gear to achieve gains of that nature in that sort of time span, especially for someone who is already way above average size.

[ReaperX]

The old school bb'ers used to only use deca, d-bol, and V.

With D-bol they were using 5mg-50mg/ED approx.

I think highschooler today use more than that.


I'm wholly intrigued as to what will happen with these current pros.

[TerribleTowel]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

The old school bb'ers used to only use deca, d-bol, and V.

With D-bol they were using 5mg-50mg/ED approx.

I think highschooler today use more than that.


I'm wholly intrigued as to what will happen with these current pros.

Very true. The types of gear available back then was completely different than whats available now. Not to mention all of these peptides pros pump into their bodies nowadays.

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by TerribleTowel

Very true. The types of gear available back then was completely different than whats available now. Not to mention all of these peptides pros pump into their bodies nowadays.

Dexter Jackson looks worn out. I think he's somewhere in his 30s, but that guy just looks worn down and unhealthy. It shows in his face.

[TerribleTowel]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

Dexter Jackson looks worn out. I think he's somewhere in his 30s, but that guy just looks worn down and unhealthy. It shows in his face.

The lifestyle certainly is not the easiest. I feel that Dexter might be one of the guys that keeps his gear usage semi-reasonable. He never puts on more than 5 to 10 pounds a years. Instead he worries about staying proportional and coming into every competition with the absolute best conditioning of any contestant. So maybe he isn't submitting his body to the immense amounts of gear and peptides the other pros do in order to simply try and slap on as much mass as they can during every off season.

[ReaperX]

I agree. Also too this is where your genetics really matter the most. Guys with better genetics don't have to rely quite so heavily on gear.

Lee Priest has been pretty candid about his gear usage which has been surprisingly small. He claims people assume he uses so much more.