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    Starting Super DMZ 2.0 today


    I'm new to the PH scene. I've been reading and doing research for about 4 months now and decided to try out SDMZ.
    I'm 29, 5'10 and 148 currently. I've been lifting heavily for about 3 years, but have lifted my whole life, especially the 4 years I was in the military.
    My goal is to be 165 with 6% bf in 6 months. I'm currently about 7% now, just wanna throw on some weight.
    I'm taking Super DMZ 2.0 with ironmaglabs complete cycle support
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    good luck! whats ur dosing and pct look like...also.. whats ur cals and macros going to be.
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    Dosing is going to be the suggested: 10mg every 12 hrs.
    Pct is going to be finaflex complete pct and finaflex test booster
    Macros: 4000 calories, 200 protein, 250 carbs
    I'm not going to worry so much about eating clean, I have a super high metabolism and can't gain weight to save my life. I graduated high school at 118, gained 18 lbs in the military, and that was pretty much it lol
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    Subbing, I ran DMZ at 10,20,20,20,20 with Lmg the last four weeks also low dose. Want to see what types of gains you get, I got pretty decent lifting gains, but I'm at about 20 ( probably more) of body fat so couldn't notice to much composition changes. I'm planning on doing an ultradrol/ stanzo cycle in about a month if I can get some stanzo all the less expensive stuff is sold out right now.
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    no serm in pct?
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    No I'm just doing the complete pct. if I have probs I might switch to clomid, I have some from when my wife was on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    No I'm just doing the complete pct. if I have probs I might switch to clomid, I have some from when my wife was on it
    nice, but why not use it? saving for future cycle.
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    Yeah, I'm in really good health, so I figure I can recover better than most people, so I'm just running a normal pct. maybe on my next cycle, if I do one, ill stack a ph and do serm for pct. it all depends on how this cycle goes. My body reacts very well to working out and supplements.
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    FYI health has nothing to do with serm. Not say you have to take one just heads up.
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    Just got home from the gym. Felt pretty good. I know SDMZ doesn't kick in til about day 5. Here's my meals and work out.
    Breakfast:
    2 cups oatmeal
    Greek yogurt
    Protein shake

    Lunch:
    1 cup white rice
    Can of tuna
    Fruit cup
    Protein shake

    Dinner:
    Went to a Chinese buffet and smashed about 2000 calories
    Ice cream for snack

    Workout-chest day
    Flat bench 10/135, 10/155, 8/175, 6/185
    Incline DB 10/65s, 8/70s, 7/75s
    Decline DB 8/75, 7/80, 6/85
    Push-ups 3 sets to failure (bout 30-40)

    Bar MP 3x10 125 smith machine

    Rope pull downs 10/70, 8/80, 6/80, 5/85
    Skull crushers 3x10/105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcountry08 View Post
    FYI health has nothing to do with serm. Not say you have to take one just heads up.
    I'll go a step further and say he DOES have to take one. Super DMZ isn't just a prohormone... it's two of them: Dymethazine -- an analogue of Superdrol -- aka one of the harshest prohormones on the market -- and Methylsten -- aka Ultradrol -- another one of the harshest compounds, albeit with fewer estrogenic sides than Superdrol.

    In my opinion it's absolutely foolish to run this cycle without using a SERM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    Dosing is going to be the suggested: 10mg every 12 hrs.
    Pct is going to be finaflex complete pct and finaflex test booster
    Macros: 4000 calories, 200 protein, 250 carbs
    I'm not going to worry so much about eating clean, I have a super high metabolism and can't gain weight to save my life. I graduated high school at 118, gained 18 lbs in the military, and that was pretty much it lol
    See you're going to use the revolution PCT and pure test by finaflex.
    Good choice bro, but since you're running a pretty harsh PH combo, you might want to get some more info, and maybe use a serm along with our products.

    Never ran superdmz myself, but if it comes near superdrol....serm maybe or actually should be needed.

    If you have any questions about the finaflex products just ask.

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    Thanks for the info guys, if I was going to use a serm like clomid, what kind of dosing would u suggest? Or would nolva be better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    Thanks for the info guys, if I was going to use a serm like clomid, what kind of dosing would u suggest? Or would nolva be better
    standered 100 first day or so then 50/50/25...
    plus u have pharma grade thats nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    Thanks for the info guys, if I was going to use a serm like clomid, what kind of dosing would u suggest? Or would nolva be better
    Yea man, its absolutely paramount you use a serm in pct, those finawhatevers you mentioned are not going to do anything in restarting your hpta recovery. I dont know if someone mentioned this but the compounds you are taking are not prohormones but rather designer steroids, one of which is well know for acute toxicity. Be smart, do the right thing and run the clomid. Besides that you should make some really nice gains, you have a pretty decent base to start with. Good luck.
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    Started using a new pre workout today. Pump Fuel by PMD. Effing love it! Taste is awesome and gave me energy for my whole workout. I didn't get the crash afterwords like I did from jack or C4.
    Weighed in at 147.2, even though ive upped my calories 500 the past week, can't wait to start seein some gains.
    I was going to do arms and back today, but my Shoulder was hurting me so I did legs instead.

    Typical leg workout today, squats, deadlifts, Leg press, lunges and calfs.

    I have my meals planned out for today, I'm guessing about 4000 calories, 210 protein, and 250ish carbs. I work in the ER tonight so it'll be easy for me to smash a ton of food
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    You are young but watch your blood pressure. Adding in a PWO in cycle sometimes messes with your BP. If you don't have a BP machine you could visit a Walmart and use their testing station for free.

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    I'm a paramedic, so I can just use the one on the squad lol
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    Going to order more clomid today. My supply would've only lasted 2 weeks. What do you think of the iron-dragon labs Clomid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    Going to order more clomid today. My supply would've only lasted 2 weeks. What do you think of the iron-dragon labs Clomid?
    is that a research Co?... i never tried them. plus u cant really get into sources here
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post

    Yea man, its absolutely paramount you use a serm in pct, those finawhatevers you mentioned are not going to do anything in restarting your hpta recovery. I dont know if someone mentioned this but the compounds you are taking are not prohormones but rather designer steroids, one of which is well know for acute toxicity. Be smart, do the right thing and run the clomid. Besides that you should make some really nice gains, you have a pretty decent base to start with. Good luck.
    Yo bro, no need to bash the finaflex products. They serve a purpose in pct, just like some people use erase, you can use our PCT revolution.

    Like I said in my earlier post, and on which we agree ,.... is that with this cycle he needs a serm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post

    is that a research Co?... i never tried them. plus u cant really get into sources here
    Yeah it's a research company. I've ready a few reviews on other sites and say its up there with the other ones, and reputable
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    go for it then
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post

    Yo bro, no need to bash the finaflex products. They serve a purpose in pct, just like some people use erase, you can use our PCT revolution.

    Like I said in my earlier post, and on which we agree ,.... is that with this cycle he needs a serm.
    No bashing intended. Your company makes good products with good ingredient profiles. They are, however no substitute for pct without a serm as you mentioned, but for sure natty products have a place in any well though out protocol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post

    No bashing intended. Your company makes good products with good ingredient profiles. They are, however no substitute for pct without a serm as you mentioned, but for sure natty products have a place in any well though out protocol.
    Thanks for the reply....cleared things up

    We both agree on the pct for this /these PH's/designers S.

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    What I would like to know is why hasn't a company come out with a "prohormon" for serms yet. If its even feasible I would imagine they would be rolling in money with a legal serm product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcountry08 View Post
    What I would like to know is why hasn't a company come out with a "prohormon" for serms yet. If its even feasible I would imagine they would be rolling in money with a legal serm product.
    Because serms arent hormones for them to create "pro" or compounds that then later are enzymatically converted to the active target hormone. Well, maybe clomid, but thats just synthetic estrogen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post

    Because serms arent hormones for them to create "pro" or compounds that then later are enzymatically converted to the active target hormone. Well, maybe clomid, but thats just synthetic estrogen.
    really... synth estro?
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    Clomid in men tells your body to make luteinizing hormone, which in turn tells your pituitary gland to make testosterone, and shutting down the production of estrogen. It works kinda different in women.
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    New day today and I'm tired as fuk! I haven't been sleeping well, but it could be my schedules messed up. I think im gonna get some melatonin. Heading to the gym now
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    Dude! I know it's only been 3 days, but I'm already seein gains! I weighed in today at 149.2. Had an awesome arm and back workout today, the pumps are awesome on this stuff. I felt great working out, my strength feels like it's better, my arms feel like they are going to rip through my skin.
    Only took half a scoop of PWO, but had energy through the whole routine. Felt really good.
    Same diet today as yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    Dude! I know it's only been 3 days, but I'm already seein gains! I weighed in today at 149.2. Had an awesome arm and back workout today, the pumps are awesome on this stuff. I felt great working out, my strength feels like it's better, my arms feel like they are going to rip through my skin.
    Only took half a scoop of PWO, but had energy through the whole routine. Felt really good.
    Same diet today as yesterday.
    great response!
    should be a sick cycle for u then.. maybe cut out the pwos soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    I'm a paramedic, so I can just use the one on the squad lol
    Looking good in here! So, what has your BP been running at? Interested in this cycle and I'm older so interested in what happens to BP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post

    great response!
    should be a sick cycle for u then.. maybe cut out the pwos soon
    Yeah I felt good with only half a dose, I'll prolly cut it out on today's workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post

    Looking good in here! So, what has your BP been running at? Interested in this cycle and I'm older so interested in what happens to BP.
    Thanks kenpo! My bp was 124/83, which is slightly high for me. I did notice that my resting heart rate was up, usually I'm about 55 bpm, I've been around 75-85 the past 2 days.
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    Another great workout today. Destroyed chest and triceps. My shoulder is still all snapped up, so I didn't go too heavy. I tried bench though today and really focused on form, seemed to help a little. Feeling good over all, no sides yet.

    Weighed in at 149.8, seems about right, I've been gaining about half a pound a day now. I didn't get all of my calories I needed yesterday thought because we were busy as fuk in the ER, it was a full moon. I got about 2900 out of the 3500 I've been aiming for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    really... synth estro?
    yes sir, it is a weak synthetic estrogen. Look it up, its quite interesting how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post

    yes sir, it is a weak synthetic estrogen. Look it up, its quite interesting how it works.
    Yeah I did after you said it, I was like no way this guys is crazy! But its true and pretty weird/cool how it works.
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    Took yesterday as a rest day. Today I weighed in at 151.2. Still doin good on the diet, 3500 cals, 200 protein, 250 carbs.
    Had an awesome Chest workout today, felt really strong and pumped up.
    Started with flat bench-
    165(with chains)x10, 185x 10, 215x5
    DB press - 80s x 10, 85x8, 85x6
    Incline hammer machine-135x10x3
    Decline DB 85x10x3
    Few sets of weighted abs
    Dips with 45 plate on my lap 20x3
    Overhead DB press 75x8, 80x6, 80x5

    My libido has been crazy, I wanna hump anything that moves lol. Other than that no sides. I've been taking melatonin to help me sleep at night, works great.
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    Ok, kinda confused now. 2 days ago I was 151.2, today when I weighed in I was 150.0. I have been eating like crazy and working my ass off at the gym. Not sure why I'm not gaining much.

    I used the electric handheld body fat calc thing and it says I'm at 6% with 21.4 BMI.
    Maybe I need to up my calories to 4000? I'm having a hard time getting 3500 a day eating clean, so I'm gonna dirty it up a bit.
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