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  1. What I would like to know is why hasn't a company come out with a "prohormon" for serms yet. If its even feasible I would imagine they would be rolling in money with a legal serm product.
    Bigcountry's Getting a little smaller: Epi/Stano Log

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/231194-bigcountrys-getting-little.html


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Bigcountry08 View Post
    What I would like to know is why hasn't a company come out with a "prohormon" for serms yet. If its even feasible I would imagine they would be rolling in money with a legal serm product.
    Because serms arent hormones for them to create "pro" or compounds that then later are enzymatically converted to the active target hormone. Well, maybe clomid, but thats just synthetic estrogen.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post

    Because serms arent hormones for them to create "pro" or compounds that then later are enzymatically converted to the active target hormone. Well, maybe clomid, but thats just synthetic estrogen.
    really... synth estro?

  4. Clomid in men tells your body to make luteinizing hormone, which in turn tells your pituitary gland to make testosterone, and shutting down the production of estrogen. It works kinda different in women.

  5. New day today and I'm tired as fuk! I haven't been sleeping well, but it could be my schedules messed up. I think im gonna get some melatonin. Heading to the gym now
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  6. Dude! I know it's only been 3 days, but I'm already seein gains! I weighed in today at 149.2. Had an awesome arm and back workout today, the pumps are awesome on this stuff. I felt great working out, my strength feels like it's better, my arms feel like they are going to rip through my skin.
    Only took half a scoop of PWO, but had energy through the whole routine. Felt really good.
    Same diet today as yesterday.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    Dude! I know it's only been 3 days, but I'm already seein gains! I weighed in today at 149.2. Had an awesome arm and back workout today, the pumps are awesome on this stuff. I felt great working out, my strength feels like it's better, my arms feel like they are going to rip through my skin.
    Only took half a scoop of PWO, but had energy through the whole routine. Felt really good.
    Same diet today as yesterday.
    great response!
    should be a sick cycle for u then.. maybe cut out the pwos soon

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    I'm a paramedic, so I can just use the one on the squad lol
    Looking good in here! So, what has your BP been running at? Interested in this cycle and I'm older so interested in what happens to BP.
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
    myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
    https://appsto.re/us/vvMndb.i

  9. Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post

    great response!
    should be a sick cycle for u then.. maybe cut out the pwos soon
    Yeah I felt good with only half a dose, I'll prolly cut it out on today's workout.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post

    Looking good in here! So, what has your BP been running at? Interested in this cycle and I'm older so interested in what happens to BP.
    Thanks kenpo! My bp was 124/83, which is slightly high for me. I did notice that my resting heart rate was up, usually I'm about 55 bpm, I've been around 75-85 the past 2 days.

  11. Another great workout today. Destroyed chest and triceps. My shoulder is still all snapped up, so I didn't go too heavy. I tried bench though today and really focused on form, seemed to help a little. Feeling good over all, no sides yet.

    Weighed in at 149.8, seems about right, I've been gaining about half a pound a day now. I didn't get all of my calories I needed yesterday thought because we were busy as fuk in the ER, it was a full moon. I got about 2900 out of the 3500 I've been aiming for.
    Off today, gonna eat and sleep allllll day!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    really... synth estro?
    yes sir, it is a weak synthetic estrogen. Look it up, its quite interesting how it works.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post

    yes sir, it is a weak synthetic estrogen. Look it up, its quite interesting how it works.
    Yeah I did after you said it, I was like no way this guys is crazy! But its true and pretty weird/cool how it works.
    Bigcountry's Getting a little smaller: Epi/Stano Log

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/231194-bigcountrys-getting-little.html

  14. Took yesterday as a rest day. Today I weighed in at 151.2. Still doin good on the diet, 3500 cals, 200 protein, 250 carbs.
    Had an awesome Chest workout today, felt really strong and pumped up.
    Started with flat bench-
    165(with chains)x10, 185x 10, 215x5
    DB press - 80s x 10, 85x8, 85x6
    Incline hammer machine-135x10x3
    Decline DB 85x10x3
    Few sets of weighted abs
    Dips with 45 plate on my lap 20x3
    Overhead DB press 75x8, 80x6, 80x5

    My libido has been crazy, I wanna hump anything that moves lol. Other than that no sides. I've been taking melatonin to help me sleep at night, works great.

  15. Ok, kinda confused now. 2 days ago I was 151.2, today when I weighed in I was 150.0. I have been eating like crazy and working my ass off at the gym. Not sure why I'm not gaining much.

    I used the electric handheld body fat calc thing and it says I'm at 6% with 21.4 BMI.
    Maybe I need to up my calories to 4000? I'm having a hard time getting 3500 a day eating clean, so I'm gonna dirty it up a bit.
    Any suggestions?

  16. Carbs seem a bit low. What are your fats at? If low, you can add EVOO to your meals. PB and whole milk is also a pretty high calorie staple.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by peter01 View Post
    Carbs seem a bit low. What are your fats at? If low, you can add EVOO to your meals. PB and whole milk is also a pretty high calorie staple.
    I'm not real sure what my fats are, I haven't been paying too much attention. I have been adding a Tsp of evoo to my shakes lately, makes em taste like crap lol.
    I know the term 'Hard Gainer' gets thrown around a lot. People say that they are hard gainers, when in reality everyone is. Building muscle is no easy task. But for me, I take it to the next level.
    I'm eating 3500-4k calories, not doing any cardio, and taking a strong PH. To say I'm an ectomorph is an understatement.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by peter01 View Post
    Carbs seem a bit low. What are your fats at? If low, you can add EVOO to your meals. PB and whole milk is also a pretty high calorie staple.
    Agree with this. You need a macro tracking program like MyFitnessPal or Protein Tracker. If you are on a cycle and have no idea what your macros (ie fats) are you may be underestimating calories.
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
    myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
    https://appsto.re/us/vvMndb.i

  19. Its most likely cals are underestimated. I need about 3800 cals to maintain and it looks like 400+ carbs 100+ fats and 200+ protein. I know macros vary based on everyones goals but 200 pro and 250 carb seems low for that many cals.

    I started gaining when i took the guessing out of my diet. Good job on the log and i'll definitely be following.

  20. I have been using the livestrong calorie tracker, it works for me. Ive found it hard to be able to find the time and energy to eat as much as i need to. I increased my carbs to 350 and calories to 3800 today. We'll see if it works. I ate an entire large pizza for dinner, it was great. Today was my rest day, sitting at home itchin to go to the gym to make some gains lol. Back at it tomorrow with chest.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    I have been using the livestrong calorie tracker, it works for me. Ive found it hard to be able to find the time and energy to eat as much as i need to. I increased my carbs to 350 and calories to 3800 today. We'll see if it works. I ate an entire large pizza for dinner, it was great. Today was my rest day, sitting at home itchin to go to the gym to make some gains lol. Back at it tomorrow with chest.
    I hear ya man. Eating is probably the hardest part for me. But for me its also the absolute most important.

    It does get easier after a while. Your body gets used to the increased food intake and when you try to slow down (on off days for example) you find yourself craving more food.

  22. By the way, the calorie trackers help bur only so far as your estimates on portion sizes are correct. What may look like 6oz may in reality be 4oz.

    The only true way to get your diet tracked is with a combo of a cal tracker and a food scale.

  23. I upped my calories the past couple days. weighed in at 153.2 today.
    Did chest and tri's today, felt pretty good. Put up 215 3 times. Last week I could only get it once. I'm noticing some bulk, and apparently so are other people. One of the guys I work with asked what I was doing at the gym cuz I'm looking bigger made me feel pretty good.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Frftrsteve View Post
    I upped my calories the past couple days. weighed in at 153.2 today.
    Did chest and tri's today, felt pretty good. Put up 215 3 times. Last week I could only get it once. I'm noticing some bulk, and apparently so are other people. One of the guys I work with asked what I was doing at the gym cuz I'm looking bigger made me feel pretty good.
    Nice work in here.
    May I suggest using this app to track your bloodwork tests:
    myBloodTracker for IPhone and IPad
    https://appsto.re/us/vvMndb.i

  25. Do potatoes, my staple is mashed potatoes there easy to make and quick to heat back up. I make about 10# a week and just eat them all through the week. I don't add milk or butter though just water and s&p until the right consistency. They taste almost like the real thing.
    Bigcountry's Getting a little smaller: Epi/Stano Log

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/231194-bigcountrys-getting-little.html
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