- 11-29-2011, 08:13 PM
- 11-29-2011, 08:57 PM
Anytime you are running a foreign chemical in your body there is potential for problems. With this being said, the safest way to run a nolva/letro cycle is simply staying aware of your body functions. Keep your blood pressure in check (hawthorn berry works well), your cholesterol levels and HDL's (Red Yeast Rice), stay on top of your liver avoid alcohol (milk thistle or a liv.52), prostate (saw pawmetto), and lastly I would take into consideration your normal test levels (DAA or tribulus), all these minerals shouldn't be over 30$ Now taking all this in consideration, approaching a nolva/letro cycle if you are already facing gyno enter it with a taper off system. For instance if you are taking liquid nolva go 40/30/20/10, pill run 30/20/20/10 and for letro liquid run 2.5/1.75/1.5/.5 and do the same for pill equivalent. Since your gyno is a later stage, this system may work great and yield results but on other hand it could do nothing, resulting in surgery option only. All in all, I would run these cycle and see what it does, it cant hurt you only help your situation. These complete cycle will cost around 100$ which is much less than 2000-4000$. Good luck and keep me posted.
11-29-2011, 10:04 PM
thanks brotha. I just turned 20 remember. You still think it would be okay to take it that young? just makin sure. I aint tryin to **** somethin else up haha
11-29-2011, 10:35 PM
Most males normal hormone levels sustain at around 20-23. I would say its your best bet, considering you have already ran a PH at 17. If anytime throughout this process you feel negative effects, taper down DO NOT stop. That will cause a estrogen spike, making matters extremely worse. Just be cautious of your body functions, and take this serious. You are really young in your weight lifting career. Make sure your source of nolva and letro are credible also. Alot of companies produce bunk and underdosed product. Do your homework and do things right and I believe you will yield results in your case of gyno. This similar approach one of my trainees took and seen a 80-90% reduction in breast tissue. In closing, if you do have friends under 18 let them know PH/AAS use isnt no joke, weight lifting isnt a race its a marathon. Those who use their brain and do things right will see longer term results. Keep me posted.
11-30-2011, 11:28 AM
12-05-2011, 03:49 PM
Bro it took surgery for me.... Did my first cycle with no pct @ 18..... Finally gave in and had surgery at 24
12-07-2011, 03:13 PM
I've heard of D-plex (pro hormone to a form of DHT) getting rid of gyno but I'm not sure how old the gyno was.
I know Primordial Performance has the anti-gyno challenge with Androhard (not sure if they still offer it with V3 last I saw it was with V2).
From studies that I have read DHT is very effective for reducing gyno.
I'd also suggest if you could get your hands on some testosterone cream applying it to the scrotum which will drastically increase DHT and fight gyno.
Good luck to you my friend. I hope you are able to get rid of it without surgery.
12-07-2011, 03:15 PM
I just read my post and thought I should clarify something. I'm not suggesting that you use testosterone cream plus Androhard just one or the other.
12-08-2011, 05:54 PM
This is crazy ready this statements, his gyno is so far in a later stage that if a letro/nolva doesnt work it is surgery only. There is no OTC anti-gyno property. Thats just b.s. Do some research man, my best hopes for you, but don't listen to any jokers reccomending you OTC crap.
12-09-2011, 03:49 PM
01-22-2012, 10:54 PM
Did the surgery hurt? I also have lumps and I'm nervous bout the painOriginally Posted by ryannolin
01-23-2012, 01:16 AM
What worked for me was prymiding up letro to 2.5mg until it was gone, then continueing for 5-7 days then going back down then using nolva at 10-20mg for 2-3 weeks after the letro to keep estro rebound in check.
02-03-2012, 11:02 PM
Hey bro, are you still interested in how you can remove your gyno without surgery? PM me, I can help.Originally Posted by thebigbassman
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