This Doesn't Make sense ! Arnold and Lou vs...
- 11-28-2010, 08:18 AM
I think it's highly unlikely that any information about Arnold's steroid usage is accurate. He has a reputation to uphold and he can not have the fact that he used tons of roids back in the day mess up said reputation. Not to mention he was using from such a young age (supposedly as young as 15?) and he was, by most people's definition, a genetic freak.
- 11-28-2010, 05:43 PM
haha if you guys think arnold or lou used 15mgs once a year I laugh at you. Have any of you seen Lou or Arnold today? They look like shrimps. I think I am bigger than both Lou and Arnold right now. Their T levels should not have dropped that much if they could legitimately hold that much muscle. I'll bet they were on all the time. Arnold has to have dialysis done regularly I heard. I have come back quite easily it's not that hard. I mean really after you get above 1100 T level it's really all the same anyway as far as recovery goes as long as you are keeping the estrogen down it's not gonna be much different given the duration is the same.
11-28-2010, 07:12 PM
Do you count your calories year round everyday? do you put your calories above and below maintenance, depending on what your body goals are and have logs on what works for your body at the time ? do you training life an effing animal cycling your intensity? are you getting 8-10 hours of sleep per night? are you using research proven supplements
I have no doubt in my mind Arnold used 10-15 mgs dbol and the fact that he was far ahead of his time in nutrition and had good "genetics" just goes to shown you that it is really easy to get Arnold's size on using not much.
You guys who doubt lower dosing are just short changing yourself, most of the time its you dont have your basics in order
11-28-2010, 08:35 PM
11-29-2010, 04:43 AM
Arnold said he used to workout 4 5 hours a day !!!!! They also didn't know **** about overtraining so I'm sure they were using high doses
He also started at 16 !!!
lol it just doesn't make sense to me I dont know !
11-30-2010, 01:20 PM
It is obvious that they took less than pros today. Pros today look like retards....they are comical to the average person whereas back then they looked like super humans. And don't give me that crap about knowledge of nutrition and training......it's not rocket science, unless of course, you are selling a product, then, this bodybuilding gets VERY complicated and scientific. LOL.
I am sure they were on high doses, but not the level of the guys today. And no, I do not have proof but common sense is enough.
11-30-2010, 06:51 PM
Drugs are a part of sports, like it or not... Top guys try and keep their image, and by doing this, they are not going to tell you the truth as to how much they use..
There is a pro who I have met a time or two thru mutual body building friends.. I can tell you, that the kitchen table was covered in drugs... So do you really think this guy is going to tell all the world his dirty secrets?? HELL NO.. I was only allowed in the circle because of who I knew and the trust that I would keep my mouth shut and his identity private..
He would never come out and tell you about his drug usage or the problems he faced because of it.. Its just one of those things that is not discussed and I get it..
I will say this though.. It does not take a ton of drugs to build a great body.. I have preached that on here for a long time.. If your diet is on par as well as sleep, nutrition etc.. you would be amazed at what 250 mgs of test e a week will do for your body.. I always see guys saying you gotta use 500/week or you are wasting your time.. Thats BS if you have legit gear and all your ducks in a row.. However as are all things, that is my opinion and not the opinion of many posters or todays bodybuilders..
11-30-2010, 08:11 PM
latest ironman mag here in australian stated they only ran there cycle leading up to comps. 8-12 weeks out ect the rest of the time in between they were off........
"Dont worry about the burn man! You can do Jane Fonda classes if you want the burn"
12-01-2010, 06:35 AM
Newton do u really believe that?? They say only at contest time.. Im calling BS on that. No way they could have been as big and strong year round. I know they had superior genetics, however that only
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12-02-2010, 02:01 PM
When I think of overtraining I think of training hard too often without enough rest to recover. I think doing reps til failure(you cannot lift it anymore without help) is just training.
12-02-2010, 03:03 PM
07-21-2015, 01:48 PM
Back in the day it was taper up then taper down, no real issues, I never understood why it's not the same with PH. I follow the pct regime now but never did back in the 80's.
08-06-2015, 05:34 AM
My best mates Dad used to manage a gym in Portsmouth where Arnold trained and he said that he took up to 8 DBol per day (40mg) in off season
08-09-2015, 04:36 PM
Back then people truly did cycle and most did not get on until perhaps 16 weeks before a contest. I am sure many are not on HRT. You also have to remember that many might now have known exactly what Suppression was
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08-10-2015, 12:45 AM
alot more factors in our air.food..water and soil mess with our bodies recovery than it did back in the 70s..
08-10-2015, 12:48 AM
Damn, this thread is hella old!!!
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