Value of building legs on an ectomorph/hard gainer?
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11-05-2009 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
codywaters
There is no such thing as a hard gainer.. only those who are too lazyy to work hard enough, do not eat right, and do not take enough vitamin "S" to make the gains they dream of
That is just stupid as f*ck. Genetics......come on, before I even lifted a weight I played soccer and had big quads. I didn't do a thing different than some of my team mates with skinny legs.....geeeeeenetics. They would have had to lift and do everything perfect for 2 years to have the quads I had while I did nothing.
Come on.......
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11-08-2009 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by
gibsonj4
Wow fml guess I just don't "work hard enough". What an ignorant statement.
There is no such thing as a hard gainer. Only lazy and pathetic slobs. If you want a good physique, upper and lower, then STFU and squat.
GICH!
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11-10-2009 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by
codywaters
There is no such thing as a hard gainer.. only those who are too lazyy to work hard enough, do not eat right, and do not take enough vitamin "S" to make the gains they dream of
Ive heard this arguement to many times....Im telling you, You dont know until your a real Hardgainer. I who bust his ass 5 days a week in gym, eats double the cals most eat just for maints.
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11-13-2009 04:28 AM
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haha to answer the OP
Working legs will raise your test levels if done correctly. Meaning legs doesn't take you 2 hours to complete shooting cortisol through the roof etc. But dont worry about the hormone side of things!!
Legs are a massive massive part of your overall muscle mass. A leg day will suck you dry, after my leg day when i get home it is hard to get off the bed in the first hour. Regardless dong legs is like everything else, eat what your body needs to grow, itll do the rest.
Will your chest/bis get smaller because you work legs? Not if you eat right. If you eat like a bird then walking to your car will make you loose weight too, anything that uses a calorie
Will you chest/bis get bigger doing legs? Your whole damn body will get bigger if you squat and squat right and eat like everyone is saying
Get into legs my man! Trust me when you look at yourself in the mirror you'll be flexing those quads before anything else. Don't be like Arnold in my avatar haha
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11-13-2009 07:28 AM
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11-21-2009 11:08 PM
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Heavy squatting is the key to overall thickness. I've gone from 150lbs and a pot to sporting an 18.5-19" neck thanks to squatting. The cure for the pencil neck. You can see the benefits by seeing your whole body pumped. Obvious growth and recovery benefits.
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11-29-2009 08:28 AM
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Squats are good for you, they're a good part of a balanced workout
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11-29-2009 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
roids1
There is no such thing as a hard gainer. Only lazy and pathetic slobs. If you want a good physique, upper and lower, then STFU and squat.
GICH!
Hardgainer just means fast metabolism. So yes it's ignornat statemnt because its harder to put on mass. So in essence your saying genetics have nothing to do with metabolic rate. Now, I agree with the fact that people need not be pussies and say oh **** I'm a hardgainer ill never be big, but hardgainers do exist however you would like to phrase it. I know how to gain weight I was 120lbs same height sophmore year of college and I started eating like a pig and lifting and I'm 185 right now at 8.5% BF. I've been as high as 200 but I was more fat than muscle.
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11-29-2009 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
suncloud
so not true. as an ecto, breaking the caloric barrier is an absolute must, and has to be at extreme levels for "normal" gains. additionally, an ecto must work out differently than other lifters - having huge amounts of endurance oriented muscles means you can not only train differently, but you should, to maximize your gains.
OP, working your legs is essential to gaining serious size, not only because your body attempts to grow proportionately, but because of the extreme testosterone release from doing exercises like squats and deadlifts.
This man speaks truth.
Reps Sun.
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12-03-2009 06:34 PM
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someone give me money so I can eat properly. I've always considered myself a "hardgainer" starting lifting at the weight of 127lbs and two years later only weigh 140lbs. This is after busting my a$$ in the gym and eating as much as possible for a broke college student.
Im no trainer or expert but, to answer the OP I used to never do legs. Right when I started lifting legs i gained about 5 pounds in a few months. your legs are huge muscles dont forget about them. they suck at first, but once you get them stronger its so fun to put up big weight.
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12-03-2009 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
jmonteil
someone give me money so I can eat properly. I've always considered myself a "hardgainer" starting lifting at the weight of 127lbs and two years later only weigh 140lbs. This is after busting my a$$ in the gym and eating as much as possible for a broke college student.
Im no trainer or expert but, to answer the OP I used to never do legs. Right when I started lifting legs i gained about 5 pounds in a few months. your legs are huge muscles dont forget about them. they suck at first, but once you get them stronger its so fun to put up big weight.
Go to the store. Buy a bottle of Extra Virgin Olive Oil. Periodically take shots from it throughout the day. "Hardgainer" no more.
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12-04-2009 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by
jmonteil
someone give me money so I can eat properly. I've always considered myself a "hardgainer" starting lifting at the weight of 127lbs and two years later only weigh 140lbs. This is after busting my a$$ in the gym and eating as much as possible for a broke college student.
Im no trainer or expert but, to answer the OP I used to never do legs. Right when I started lifting legs i gained about 5 pounds in a few months. your legs are huge muscles dont forget about them. they suck at first, but once you get them stronger its so fun to put up big weight.
shhhhhhhhhhhh..........
I dont want to share the squat rack.
lol
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12-07-2009 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by
Resolve
Go to the store. Buy a bottle of Extra Virgin Olive Oil. Periodically take shots from it throughout the day. "Hardgainer" no more.
does the olive oil thing really work?? im down for any way to up the calories without burning a hole in my wallet.
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12-07-2009 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
jmonteil
does the olive oil thing really work?? im down for any way to up the calories without burning a hole in my wallet.
Why wouldn't it? It's easy, compact, portable calories that promotes healthy hormone levels and won't cause an insulin spike. I do oil "shots" on a regular basis when I need quick cals and it certainly helps when I'm trying to gain.
Also, I was shown some very provocative data today suggesting that a high fat diet, done right, increases thermogenesis, which = less bodyfat, so what's not to like about that?
Edit: but beware, straight EVOO is not tasty by any means...
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02-18-2010 10:35 PM
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I am an ecto and its a ass trying to gain weight but then even more of an ass to make it stick. One day of not eating the same you can easily lose 3 to 5 pounds in one day.
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04-10-2010 01:52 AM
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smart poeple are so good tohave around at times llol
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