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    Anybody who who follows the sport obviously knows it requires steroid use.

    Do the pro's use black market products or have doc prescribed stuff? Or a little of both. I follow the sport very close, but certain info like this isn't discussed.

    Support to your response is appreciated (aka, don't post - it is dr. prescribed (-: or .....they use black market (-;

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    I would say both. Over at bb.com I have seen former pros not mention that their stuff was prescribed (which pretty much means black market) and that it was prescribed so prolly just matters on the individual.

    I doubt top guys like cutler/dexter/heath are getting black market stuff tho
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    well seeing as the amount they would have to be prescribed would be way way over trt i would assume most are getting it illegaly. Also it's pretty well document alot of top pros have had legal issues with A.S. are they using UG stuff probablly not. But we also know Pro Wrestlers get busted and they make just as much money and are just as well known if not more so than Pro BB's
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
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    I doubt top guys like cutler/dexter/heath are getting black market stuff tho
    For sure. Cutler is the top role model for the sport....100% legit there.

    But what about the up and comers or "non-topfive" contendors.

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    You may remember Hidetada Yamagishi got busted for steroids, and he's top 10 at the Olympia.
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    black market def.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF210 View Post
    For sure. Cutler is the top role model for the sport....100% legit there.

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    you mean he uses more than muscletech products? i don't believe it.....next you'll be saying that Arnold used back in the day and that there's no Santa Claus. you are a very bad man, a very bad man
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    i think most have to have a script to at least stay law friendly. but they def use home brew. ronnie likes seasame oil lol look at cutler's fridge in one of his vids, i don't think he needs gh, he isn't a dwarf and he could be a diabetic from the slin in the side door also lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlrook View Post
    i think most have to have a script to at least stay law friendly. but they def use home brew. ronnie likes seasame oil lol look at cutler's fridge in one of his vids, i don't think he needs gh, he isn't a dwarf and he could be a diabetic from the slin in the side door also lol

    Seriously, which video? I didn't notice the oil. (I haven't seen Jay to Z yet though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MF210 View Post
    Seriously, which video? I didn't notice the oil. (I haven't seen Jay to Z yet though)

    Its a video from almost 2 years ago. You can hardly see the vials. So who cares.
    The sport involves it. Everyone has their own source.
    What does it matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mixedup View Post
    well seeing as the amount they would have to be prescribed would be way way over trt i would assume most are getting it illegaly. Also it's pretty well document alot of top pros have had legal issues with A.S. are they using UG stuff probablly not. But we also know Pro Wrestlers get busted and they make just as much money and are just as well known if not more so than Pro BB's
    I have to agree with this. They may have a script, but I've talked to my personal doctor who does give test cyp injections to about 10 patients of his, who need it for TRT... and he said he gives them around 300mg every 2 weeks. That's a lower dose than a cherry popping cycle. These guys have to be pushing more than a gram a week, and are probably using short esters at that. I can't imagine a doctor putting his reputation and liscence on the line just so he could give someone, even the top bb'ers in the world, a couple grams of test and some trenbalone.

    My father is a retired dentist, and even he could prescribe things that would raise the attention of the govmt, I know of a couple of times that he had to submit documents to use certain drugs on patients who had unique disorders. They might not catch someone the first time around, but they are definitely keeping watch over what is prescribed and to who.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    I have to agree with this. They may have a script, but I've talked to my personal doctor who does give test cyp injections to about 10 patients of his, who need it for TRT... and he said he gives them around 300mg every 2 weeks. That's a lower dose than a cherry popping cycle. These guys have to be pushing more than a gram a week, and are probably using short esters at that. I can't imagine a doctor putting his reputation and liscence on the line just so he could give someone, even the top bb'ers in the world, a couple grams of test and some trenbalone.

    My father is a retired dentist, and even he could prescribe things that would raise the attention of the govmt, I know of a couple of times that he had to submit documents to use certain drugs on patients who had unique disorders. They might not catch someone the first time around, but they are definitely keeping watch over what is prescribed and to who.
    The scripts that are written are kept in the pharmacy forever. Controlled substance drugs as well. Usually, if a doctor get's caught doing illegal ****, it's most likely a pharmacist who reports shady business going on. Heck Ive seen dentist write off vicodin for patients for 4 years. Now why would anyone need a monthly script of vicodin for 4 years especially from a dentist...

    If we don't catch it, the insurance company usually does. Depends on if the drug is expensive or not. Most of the time you don't get caught, I would say 90% of the time. But usually if a doctor breaks the law, it's usually more than once and for more than once patient and the risk get higher of getting caught.
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    wait so you guys are telling me the pros use steroids?? I call bull**** my friends i dont believe it for a second
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    no...pros dont use steriods..just ask them..PROTEIN BABY!!!
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    don't forget celltech and nanovapor... thats what really gives them the edge over us
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    No way its scripted. Black market! Alot of the better drugs are not even avalible though scrips
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    a couple grams of test and some trenbalone.
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    ya don't think there is such a thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by panther77 View Post
    ya don't think there is such a thing
    I've read that a French pharma company produced it for a few years in the 1960s...but that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator 87 View Post
    I've read that a French pharma company produced it for a few years in the 1960s...but that's it. The rest is for race-horses.
    ahhh, steroid legends and lore
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    Quote Originally Posted by j rad View Post
    ahhh, steroid legends and lore
    ??? Are you disagreeing with something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator 87 View Post
    I've read that a French pharma company produced it for a few years in the 1960s...but that's it. The rest is for race-horses.
    i thought it was a bovine steroid, or for cows, but obviously it works in most animals lol
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    its still used in cows as pellets for when there shiped off to be slaghterd
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    Quote Originally Posted by panther77 View Post
    i thought it was a bovine steroid, or for cows, but obviously it works in most animals lol
    It is intended as a bovine steroid, but is often used for race-horses as well.
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    ah i see
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    Probably not black market, there are many tricky ways to get things when you are in teh loop and know the right people.
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    trenbolone was produced by negma in france in human grade amps until the early to mid 90's i beleive. It was called parabolan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Lee View Post
    Probably not black market, there are many tricky ways to get things when you are in teh loop and know the right people.
    Easy enough to fly to san diego and drive into tijuana, or even just fly into mexico. Or most of south/central america. Remember a-rod and how primo is available OTC in the dominican republic.... so there are lots of spots to potentially buy human grade. And seriously contrary to popular belief most pros don't feel deep need to go much over a gram, some pros have never seen more than 500mg of test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcp2 View Post
    trenbolone was produced by negma in france in human grade amps until the early to mid 90's i beleive. It was called parabolan.
    "Parabolan is the brand name for trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate by the French pharmaceutical company Negma. Negma discontinued its production of Parabolan in 1997." -from iSteroids

    Thanks, that's what I was thinking of way earlier in the thread.
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    go to bb.com the ifbb sub forum and look up Pro Tom Prince, he talks about getting all of his from US doctors and pharmacies only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinc View Post
    go to bb.com the ifbb sub forum and look up Pro Tom Prince, he talks about getting all of his from US doctors and pharmacies only.
    Agreed.

    I'm still pretty sure that if people are doing this professionally, at the higher levels of competition, they aren't risking underground labs for quality and availability reasons.
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    I don't beleive Tom Prince, and their are quite a few things you can't get from a doctor, that all these guys are using. I can go to a doctor and get quite a bit, but you are going to be limited in the type of drugs.

    And of course he is going to say that, do you think he is going to say on BB.com that he is getting all his **** from the trunk of a car in the back of the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcp2 View Post
    I don't beleive Tom Prince, and their are quite a few things you can't get from a doctor, that all these guys are using. I can go to a doctor and get quite a bit, but you are going to be limited in the type of drugs.

    And of course he is going to say that, do you think he is going to say on BB.com that he is getting all his **** from the trunk of a car in the back of the gym.

    If you read through all of his posts, hes seems pretty legit. He doesn't compete anymore or have sponsors so why would he lie? and he gives details into the cycles he ran.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=112874301

    dont know the rules on posting another forums address, but i dont think anyone is going to leave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinc View Post
    He doesn't compete anymore or have sponsors so why would he lie?
    So people still talk about him, and so he's still considered relevant to the sport.
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    FYI anyone can get tren/fina, they are the same thing. Fina pellets are produced for bovine as stated above. It is an incredibly potent steroid and can get you jacked like you would not believe but also causes more damage than you would care for. Also anyone can buy them, if i remember correctly i think i saw them on amazon a couple years ago.
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    also another thing. Possibly these pros get there gear from doctors but it is still the black market. there is no way that a doctor is going to risk his practice by selling anavar, gh, primobolan, stonanzonal, test and all sorts of other anabolics on the record. These anabolics are in theory prescribed for terminally ill patients to prevent wasting or by vets to farmers, not for hormone replacement. Test and GH are the only hormones prescibed to humans for HRT that could also be abused by bodybuilders.

    Obviously Jay Cutler is not terminally ill. Therefore I would be willing to wager a hefty sum of money that he gets his gear illegaly.

    Their is also something called doctor shopping where you go around and get a bunch of the same drug from multiple doctors. If they do that, that is also illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynomite View Post
    Test and GH are the only hormones prescibed to humans for HRT that could also be abused by bodybuilders.
    Not true. deca can be prescribed for arthritis and joint issues, winstrol can be prescribed also for TRT if someone has high SHBG.
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    deca can be presrcibed for arthritis? I have not heard that one but seriously talk about a red flag. That would not make sense.

    Also I have not heard of winny, a low adrogenic steroid, being used for
    T(testosterone)RT, it simply doesn't make sense.

    So a 300 pound dude walks into a doctor and says, "i need some deca for my arthritis, some winny for my TRT, also some T for my TRT, some HGH for my terminal illness and also some HCG so my balls dont shut down. Oh yeah and hook me up with some nolva too, thanks. And did i mention I would need enough for about 5 people?" No sane legal doctor will do that. It is black market.
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    Thats a very nice opinion, but just because you believe it doesn't mean its true. I on the other hand have a TRT doctor who does prescribe those items if your medical history and blood tests show the need and stay in reasonable levels.
  

  
 

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